why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?

On 7 Aug 2006 19:12:08 -0700, duty-honor-country wrote:

I'll put 2 pound test on my Shimano spinning reel, with an ounce
weight- and you'll be waiting for minutes for it to land- and using
binoculars to see where it landed.

I know that the first thing I reach for when fishing a one ounce lure is my
ultra-light with two pound test.
--
-Gary

But is that the appropriate bass fishing bait where you live? Guarentee that
I can do the same thing with a baitcaster... all the while switching hands
and no thumb.

Why would I want to put 2 pound test on my baitcaster though. It's not about
distance, it's about putting my bait where I need it, using the right bait
at the right time. Nothing else matters...

Putting two pound test on anything and expecting to catch any sizable fish
is just plain crazy... float-n-fly excluded.


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Thundercat wrote:
On 7 Aug 2006 14:22:26 -0700, "duty-honor-country"
wrote:

Who are you trying to kid ? Now all of a sudden, a spinning rod can't
cast 200 feet ? Wake up and smell the coffee.

Put a full spool light line on a good long spinning rod, with a heavy
bottom weight- and try it one time. 200 feet casts no problem.

Want to go that far heavier line, you say ?? just add weight and keep
the spool topped off.

Lets battle! I'll grab my Scorpion spooled w/ 20lb PowerPro, you get
your contraption and I'll trip trap to whatever bridge you live under
and we can go at it with nice simple 5" Senkos for distance. Accuracy
count yes or no?

.
Harry J aka Thundercat
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I'll put 2 pound test on my Shimano spinning reel, with an ounce
weight- and you'll be waiting for minutes for it to land- and using
binoculars to see where it landed.

"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
casting is getting better and further. For comparison I brought along
my spinning rig with a wooden plug- still able to cast much further
with the spinning reel and more accurately.


You never said what type of casting reel you are using or what type rod it's
mounted on. That would make a difference in your ability to cast acurately
as well as for distance.. It might be that your using a cheaper or older
baitcaster. Technology has come a long way, but it's not cheap. My next reel
will most likey be a Diawa ventro? I saw this reel the other day and it has
a sweet little jigging button right over the spool, just tap it with your
thumb and it reels up a bit of line, looks great for pulling in slack and
working worms and jigs, roughly around 200.00

lol, this troll is eating well. 2# test would snap if you tried to heave a
1 oz lure a mile with it.

WW

"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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But is that the appropriate bass fishing bait where you live? Guarentee
that I can do the same thing with a baitcaster... all the while switching
hands and no thumb.

Why would I want to put 2 pound test on my baitcaster though. It's not
about distance, it's about putting my bait where I need it, using the
right bait at the right time. Nothing else matters...

Putting two pound test on anything and expecting to catch any sizable fish
is just plain crazy... float-n-fly excluded.


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Thundercat wrote:
On 7 Aug 2006 14:22:26 -0700, "duty-honor-country"
wrote:

Who are you trying to kid ? Now all of a sudden, a spinning rod can't
cast 200 feet ? Wake up and smell the coffee.

Put a full spool light line on a good long spinning rod, with a heavy
bottom weight- and try it one time. 200 feet casts no problem.

Want to go that far heavier line, you say ?? just add weight and keep
the spool topped off.

Lets battle! I'll grab my Scorpion spooled w/ 20lb PowerPro, you get
your contraption and I'll trip trap to whatever bridge you live under
and we can go at it with nice simple 5" Senkos for distance. Accuracy
count yes or no?

.
Harry J aka Thundercat
Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
http://secretweaponlures.com


I'll put 2 pound test on my Shimano spinning reel, with an ounce
weight- and you'll be waiting for minutes for it to land- and using
binoculars to see where it landed.

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WARREN WOLK wrote:
Amazing you had time to haul in 12 fish, considering all the
backlashes &
tangles you picked out.

I fished for 9 hours over those 2 days. Spent 6 hours in the boat
yesterday.

Not only did I untangle the reel a zillion times- I'm now on my 3rd
respool of line.

Like I said, you're just not good at it. Happens with all sorts of
skills
with all sorts of people.

there's quite a few expert bass pros, using spinning and spincasting
reels- are they not just quite good at it ?

your argument does not hold any water.

Really? Because bass pros use spinning equipment my argument that you're no
good at casting doesn't hold water? Hilarious. How about the fact that as
well as occasional spinning use, pro bass fishermen use casting gear by FAR
more often?

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jeffc wrote:
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You'll never have a backlash problem with a spinning reel. You may
pull a few tangles out on a newly filled reel, but that will be it.
You will have much more tangles with a baitcaster than a spinning rod.

No, YOU will. I've seen people have horrendous problems with spinning
reels.

And all of a sudden, the "farther" argument for casting with
baitcasters has disappeared.

No, just for light lures, as I said. The way the line comes off a
spinning
reel means less friction, which is good for very light lures. When the
lures get heavier, it really doesn't matter because a bait caster can't
cast
as far as he needs to, so it's moot.

are you saying spinning reels are more prone to backlashes than
baitcasters now ?

What the HELL are you talking about? Go look up "non sequitur" and see what
you think

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If you think about it, it's actually common sense. A baitcaster reel
has more internal friction than a spinning reel.

Why don't you use your head man? There's a reason all the pros use
casting
reels, and it ain't because the manufacturers are twisting their arms.
They
could whatever kind of reel was the most popular. Figure out the reason
instead of stating all the time what you "know" about casting reels and
how
to fish them.

where the heck you've been hiding ?? wake up and smell the coffee-
quite a few of those "pros" you speak of, are showing up with spinning
and spincasting reels, more and more often. You need to get out more.

So? They still use casting gear most often. And according to you, it can't
be done without hopelessly tangling their gear and wasting fishing time. I
wonder why they would do that all day long? Did you hear anyone here say
there is no place for spinning gear among serious bass fishermen?

I posted a valid question- why use a baitcaster

No you didn't. You keep trolling and you're getting plenty of what you
deserve. You came to argue and trash something you don't understand because
you have very little experience with it.

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jeffc wrote:
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If you think about it, it's actually common sense. A baitcaster reel
has more internal friction than a spinning reel.

Why don't you use your head man? There's a reason all the pros use
casting
reels, and it ain't because the manufacturers are twisting their arms.
They
could whatever kind of reel was the most popular. Figure out the reason
instead of stating all the time what you "know" about casting reels and
how
to fish them.

you really think all the pros use casting reels ?

Yes. Most use it most of the time. Most use other gear sometimes. Some
use other gear maybe even more often. You really have trouble with logic
and debate, about as much as you have trouble bait casting.

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I'm getting the notion the reel industry is doing a lot of bs-ing to
sell bait casters.

Don't be ridiculous. For what possible reason?

thumbing the reel adds friction, and will give control- at the cost of
distance.

The reel industry is bs-ing to sell bait casters because the reel adds
friction? Can you read or are you just being as annoying as possible?

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WARREN WOLK wrote:
Amazing you had time to haul in 12 fish, considering all the
backlashes &
tangles you picked out.

I fished for 9 hours over those 2 days. Spent 6 hours in the boat
yesterday.

Not only did I untangle the reel a zillion times- I'm now on my 3rd
respool of line.

Like I said, you're just not good at it. Happens with all sorts of
skills
with all sorts of people.

there's quite a few expert bass pros, using spinning and spincasting
reels- are they not just quite good at it ?

your argument does not hold any water.

Really? Because bass pros use spinning equipment my argument that you're no
good at casting doesn't hold water? Hilarious. How about the fact that as
well as occasional spinning use, pro bass fishermen use casting gear by FAR
more often?


yes, your argument doesn't hold any water- because you attack people
you don't even know, over fishing tackle preferences.

We're talking fishing tackle here, not people.