why would anyone bother with a baitcasting reel for freshwater ?

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"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
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Thundercat wrote:
On 7 Aug 2006 14:22:26 -0700, "duty-honor-country"
wrote:

Who are you trying to kid ? Now all of a sudden, a spinning rod can't
cast 200 feet ? Wake up and smell the coffee.

Put a full spool light line on a good long spinning rod, with a heavy
bottom weight- and try it one time. 200 feet casts no problem.

Want to go that far heavier line, you say ?? just add weight and keep
the spool topped off.

Lets battle! I'll grab my Scorpion spooled w/ 20lb PowerPro, you get
your contraption and I'll trip trap to whatever bridge you live under
and we can go at it with nice simple 5" Senkos for distance. Accuracy
count yes or no?

.
Harry J aka Thundercat
Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
http://secretweaponlures.com


I'll put 2 pound test on my Shimano spinning reel, with an ounce
weight- and you'll be waiting for minutes for it to land- and using
binoculars to see where it landed.



"Charles B. Summers" wrote in message
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But is that the appropriate bass fishing bait where you live? Guarentee
that I can do the same thing with a baitcaster... all the while switching
hands and no thumb.

Why would I want to put 2 pound test on my baitcaster though. It's not
about distance, it's about putting my bait where I need it, using the
right bait at the right time. Nothing else matters...

Putting two pound test on anything and expecting to catch any sizable fish
is just plain crazy... float-n-fly excluded.



lol, this troll is eating well. 2# test would snap if you tried to heave a
1 oz lure a mile with it.

WW


It would make for an interesting sight. His 1oz weight sitting 3 feet
behind him after snapping his 2 lb test line while trying to create
enough velocity to heave the thing farther than I can with my
curmudgeonly old bait caster. Simple things amuse me.

For the record, it appears that many of my posts are not showing up
here so I am forced to use this Google stuff. My (joke of an) ISP is
well, a joke.

..
Harry J aka Thundercat
Share the knowledge, compete on execution...
http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com
http://secretweaponlures.com

duty-honor-country wrote:


man, are you wrong. Some of those "pros" are stuffing 20 lb. test in
Zebco spincasters, and tightening the drag all the way, and whipping
the guys who have baitcasting reels

Name them. Don't quote the article referenced below. It's about ONE guy
doing something totally different, who is forced to use an oddball
discontinued reel (not a common zebco spincast reel as you intimated) to
use very light lures in very heavy cover. And guess what -- there are
hundreds of pros out there using casting and flipping gear to present
similar lures. Further, as soon as he switches to heavier lures, you can
be Mr Yurko switches to casting gear.


http://www.fieldandstream.com/fields...456529,00.html


You keep mentioning distance, but casting distance is very close to
being irrelevant in bass fishing. I probably fish farther from my quarry
than most bass anglers, and have no problems reaching them with casting
tackle -- and I'm not even close to the most skilled caster I know.

I'm done. I do not suffer fools gladly, and have grown quite weary of
arguing with one. It's apparent by the amount of time you have invested
in this thread that you are in serious need of a life. I, on the other
hand have one, and the time I'm willing to take from it for this matter
has expired.

"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
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Gary Udstrand wrote:

Simply, you cannot judge the performance and usage of the baitcaster
based
on just your own experience. It appears that you are very much less
skilled than others when it comes to casting and controlling such a
reel.
The reason that baitcasters are popular is that they work well for many,
many fisherman. You just don't happen to be one of them.

I disagree- I CAN judge the baitcasting reel I'm using, because I
bought it- so I have that right. It's mine to hold in whatever regard
I want. And after sampling one, unless you use a 3/4 oz. lure and are
willing to give up casting distance- the only thing they are good for,
is cranking big fish in reliably. A baitcaster casting traits are
inferior to spinning and spincasting- in distance and maintenance
issues- i.e. backlash tangles.

Your posts asks why _"anyone"_ would use a baitcaster... not just yourself.
No one can speak for why you would or would not use one. What people _are_
addressing is why they (and most people_ use baitcasters.

If you don't agree, don't. But the fact is clear... most people use
baitcasters because they _are_ more accurate.

"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
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yes, your argument doesn't hold any water- because you attack people
you don't even know, over fishing tackle preferences.

We're talking fishing tackle here, not people.

Bwahahahahahaha. It's not your "preference". You've argued with every
person here, and every person here has told you the exact same thing.
You're dogmatic and argumentative and you wonder why someone gives you a
hard time back. You fairly new to Usenet?

"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
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are you saying spinning reels are more prone to backlashes than
baitcasters now ?

What the HELL are you talking about? Go look up "non sequitur" and see
what
you think

semantics

You have no idea what you're talking about, do you?

"Todd Copeland" wrote in message
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Your posts asks why _"anyone"_ would use a baitcaster... not just
yourself.
No one can speak for why you would or would not use one.

I'll give it a shot. He's incompetant with bait casting tackle. However,
I'm getting the impression he's either pretty dumb, or pretty competant at
trolling Usenet.

I have a pimped (super-tuned) Pixy on a Megabass F0-60X Elese
(1/16-1/2oz, 2-12# line) with 4# Yozuri Soft spooled and it will cast a
1/8oz Rat-L-Trap well over 100'. I have an identical pimped Pixy (with
a drag upgrade coming + the super-tuning done to it's twin) on the
Megabass F7-711X Seven-Eleven (Fast, ¼-2 oz., 10-30lbs.) Telescopic with
20# PowerPro braid spooled. This thing is a pitchin' and flippin'
monster. I find that some baitcasters cast light weights better than
others but IMHO, distance isn't a big factor in the decision to go with
a spinner until you get down to 1/16-1/32oz. My spinning gear is all UL
and only gets used for panfish. OMT, I only tried shootin' docks one
time with a baitcaster. :-)

duty-honor-country wrote:
I can cast hundreds
of feet with my spinning reel- and hardly 100 feet with a bait caster
with a lug nut attached for weight.

I'm getting the notion the reel industry is doing a lot of bs-ing to
sell bait casters.

skeptic bordering on cynic...

"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
...
Bob La Londe wrote:
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote:
... But I tried to cast with my
Dad's old Ambasseuder 5000 and never could get the hang of
the damn thing, so I basically agree with Mr. d-h-c. 1/2 :-)

Never had a 5000, but we had a bunch of 5000D models for catfishing and
they
were great. They could crank a catfish out of hole like a Warn winch
pulling a Volkswagon out of a ditch. ...

Funny, I compare it to a winch too but in a disparaging way.
I just don't see the challenge in catching a 10 pound fish
on 20 lb. test. Hell, you watch some of the stuff on the TV
and those guys may as well just push a button. Fish on, zip,
fish in the boat. Phooey on that. A challenge is catching a
15 pound fish on 4X 6.4 lb. test. And I'm not talkin' about
using 4X just to make a game of it, I'm talking about fishing
for Michigan steelhead using a size 14 black stonefly nymph
where that's the biggest fly that will work and 4X is the
thickest piece of nylon that will fit through the eye of the
hook. Now *that's* a challenge, and a workout for the drag
on your fly reel, and a test of your skill in applying just
the right amount of pressure with the fly rod.

--
Ken Fortenberry - not trolling ... well, not too much ;-)

I think you hit the nail on the head Ken....... trolling. Mr. DHC has
suckered the whole damn group into a lot of chest thumping and
hyperventilating. IMHO of course. Joe Z ;-)

Todd Copeland wrote:
"duty-honor-country" wrote in message
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Gary Udstrand wrote:

Simply, you cannot judge the performance and usage of the baitcaster
based
on just your own experience. It appears that you are very much less
skilled than others when it comes to casting and controlling such a
reel.
The reason that baitcasters are popular is that they work well for many,
many fisherman. You just don't happen to be one of them.

I disagree- I CAN judge the baitcasting reel I'm using, because I
bought it- so I have that right. It's mine to hold in whatever regard
I want. And after sampling one, unless you use a 3/4 oz. lure and are
willing to give up casting distance- the only thing they are good for,
is cranking big fish in reliably. A baitcaster casting traits are
inferior to spinning and spincasting- in distance and maintenance
issues- i.e. backlash tangles.

Your posts asks why _"anyone"_ would use a baitcaster... not just yourself.
No one can speak for why you would or would not use one. What people _are_
addressing is why they (and most people_ use baitcasters.

If you don't agree, don't. But the fact is clear... most people use
baitcasters because they _are_ more accurate.


I have yet to see this accuracy advantage. I also shoot and own many
guns. More accurate ones are obvious from the first 3 shots. This reel
scatters the lure all over the place. My Shimano spinning reel is
actually more accurate.

jeffc wrote:
"Todd Copeland" wrote in message
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Your posts asks why _"anyone"_ would use a baitcaster... not just
yourself.
No one can speak for why you would or would not use one.

I'll give it a shot. He's incompetant with bait casting tackle. However,
I'm getting the impression he's either pretty dumb, or pretty competant at
trolling Usenet.


I've got 2 shingles hanging on the wall here. How many do you have ??

Oh, that's right...none.