salt water.....

I've never really fished any salt water, Heck I live in Ohio 12 hours from
the briny sea....

So, quite naturally I have decided delve into salt water fishing. Now, I am
not a good trout fisherman by any means but I catch a few and my 'fun
factor' and enjoyment of the sport is right up there with anybody's, so I am
thinking, heck, why not?

I've done just a little research and know that I could fish runs and river
mouths and maybe even reefs with my 8 weight...at present I have only a
sinking tip but have a spare spool for a full sinking...

I am wondering if I should go to a 9 or 10 or even more weight and/or
investigate ...ummm....what do you call them? "shooting heads?" Do those
allow greater distance or greater depth?

Now, I am not asking anyone to school me or go out of their way...but a
comment and a link would be sincerely appreciated....

....maybe I could even get an eye patch...har, har, har me maties!

john

Depends on where you are fishing. I use an 8wt for stripers in the
Sacramento Delta. Brackish water. Lots of schoolie rockcod are caught with
4-6wt in the kelp bed areas of Calif. These fish run 2-5#. But for
sailfish, tarpon, etc, you are going to go much bigger.

"asadi" wrote in message
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I've never really fished any salt water, Heck I live in Ohio 12 hours from
the briny sea....

So, quite naturally I have decided delve into salt water fishing. Now, I
am not a good trout fisherman by any means but I catch a few and my 'fun
factor' and enjoyment of the sport is right up there with anybody's, so I
am thinking, heck, why not?

I've done just a little research and know that I could fish runs and river
mouths and maybe even reefs with my 8 weight...at present I have only a
sinking tip but have a spare spool for a full sinking...

I am wondering if I should go to a 9 or 10 or even more weight and/or
investigate ...ummm....what do you call them? "shooting heads?" Do those
allow greater distance or greater depth?

Now, I am not asking anyone to school me or go out of their way...but a
comment and a link would be sincerely appreciated....

...maybe I could even get an eye patch...har, har, har me maties!

john

On Feb 23, 4:29*pm, "asadi" wrote:
I've never really fished any salt water, Heck I live in Ohio 12 hours from
the briny sea....

So, quite naturally I have decided delve into salt water fishing. *Now, I am
not a good trout fisherman by any means but I catch a few and my 'fun
factor' and enjoyment of the sport is right up there with anybody's, so I am
thinking, heck, why not?

I've done just a little research and know that I could fish runs and river
mouths and maybe even reefs with my 8 weight...at present I have only a
sinking tip but have a spare spool for a full sinking...

I am wondering if I should go to a 9 or 10 or even more weight and/or
investigate ...ummm....what do you call them? *"shooting heads?" *Do those
allow greater distance or greater depth?

Now, I am not asking anyone to school me or go out of their way...but a
comment *and a link would be sincerely appreciated....

...maybe I could even get an eye patch...har, har, har me maties!

john

john, the only real salt water ffing i have done involved average
sized bones on the island of bonaire, so i'm far from an expert.
however, i believe you could get by down east in the old north state
with a 9 by 9 and floating line for most fly fishing efforts. you are
just not going to have fun trying to catch much of anything really
deep.
waldo or jeffie are far more fecund sources than i, however.
maybe they'll be along, soon.

if you get down this way in the spring, stop by at the big house
in rowan county for another little country excursion.

yfitons
wayno

On Feb 23, 4:35*pm, " wrote:
i believe you could get by down east in the old north state
with a 9 by 9 and floating line for most fly fishing efforts. *you are
just not going to have fun trying to catch much of anything really
deep.

That summarizes the difficulties I had on the few occasions I tried
salt. I found I really just don't like fishing sinking lines. On a
trout stream, you have relatively short casts, you pick up the line, &
cast it again. Simple, sweet.

But 50' or more of sinking line? You can't just pick that up & cast
it again. (Well, I couldn't.) Strip it most of the way back in, then
false cast a few times to shoot more line before you can drop it out
there where the fish might be. Part (probably most) of my problem was
that I suck at that & really wasn't having fun.

I can handle the sink tip for the shad runs because the casts are
shorter & the activity more like trout or steelhead fishing; but I
never warmed up to sal****er stuff. Not enough opportunities to
improve, methinks.

Joe F.

"rb608" wrote

But 50' or more of sinking line? You can't just pick that up & cast
it again.


shooting heads make a big difference

I've had good success with heads "too heavy" for the rod that I cut back a
inch or two at a time until they balanced that rod to my feel ... this
leaves you with a shorter than stock head. You still have to retrieve all
the way in or close to it ( not as hard for me since my experience is
limited to Stripers and they sometimes wait til they are damn near bumping
the boat to hit ) but one false cast to get the overhang you need ( head out
the guides ) and one delivery cast with a haul and you're fishing again at a
good long distance. ( unless the running line tangles or you step on it ;-)


OH, OH, major flashback ... visualize a great haul and cast abruptly
stopped short by standing on the line


Now the story. My bride and I were backpacking and stopped in Little
Yosemite Valley ( aka black bear heaven ) the first night. To get the
packs and food up out of bears reach I tied a good sized rock to the end of
some 1/8" nylon rope, wound up swinging the rock in circles on the end of a
couple feet of line, and aiming to launch it over a distant limb in a tree,
let go. It zoomed at great speed towards that target ... until it came
up short because I was standing on most of the rope. Back came that rock
bashing me in the head and causing me to bleed a great deal, ... which was
almost as bad as the ego damageG.

Larry L ( macho outdoors guy extraordinaire ;-)

"Larry L" wrote in message
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"rb608" wrote

But 50' or more of sinking line? You can't just pick that up & cast
it again.


shooting heads make a big difference

I've had good success with heads "too heavy" for the rod that I cut back a
inch or two at a time until they balanced that rod to my feel ... this
leaves you with a shorter than stock head. You still have to retrieve
all the way in or close to it ( not as hard for me since my experience is
limited to Stripers and they sometimes wait til they are damn near bumping
the boat to hit ) but one false cast to get the overhang you need ( head
out the guides ) and one delivery cast with a haul and you're fishing
again at a good long distance. ( unless the running line tangles or you
step on it ;-)


OH, OH, major flashback ... visualize a great haul and cast abruptly
stopped short by standing on the line


Now the story. My bride and I were backpacking and stopped in Little
Yosemite Valley ( aka black bear heaven ) the first night. To get the
packs and food up out of bears reach I tied a good sized rock to the end
of some 1/8" nylon rope, wound up swinging the rock in circles on the end
of a couple feet of line, and aiming to launch it over a distant limb in a
tree, let go. It zoomed at great speed towards that target ... until
it came up short because I was standing on most of the rope. Back came
that rock bashing me in the head and causing me to bleed a great deal, ...
which was almost as bad as the ego damageG.

Larry L ( macho outdoors guy extraordinaire ;-)

I rather have peanut butter on my head than blood!

john

On Feb 24, 4:55*am, "asadi" wrote:

I rather have peanut butter on my head than blood!

john

I thought you liked being stoned?

On Feb 24, 12:25*am, "Larry L" wrote:
* Back came that rock
bashing me in the head and causing me to bleed a great deal, ... which was
almost as bad as the ego damageG.

Larry L ( macho outdoors guy extraordinaire ;-)

I never did like many rock comebacks.

"Larry L" wrote

good long distance. ( unless the running line tangles or you step on it
;-)



A stripping apron or better yet ( in a boat) basket is more than worth the
$$

The best I've ever used was basically a dish pan with truncated cones on the
bottom ... maybe an Orvis product?

I have a mesh apron supported by a belt that is "OK" but is hard to hit when
stripping fast and doesn't prevent tangles any where near as well as the
cone dealies

If i were planning a "cast, strip, cast, strip, cast, strip, cast, strip" -
trip I would certainly take shooting heads and get a cone style
stripping basket, the efficiency of the combination would add up to LOTS of
extra "fly in the water, actually fishing" time over a day

On Feb 24, 10:53*pm, "Larry L" wrote:

* I would certainly take shooting heads and get a cone style
stripping basket, the efficiency of the combination would add up to LOTS of
extra "fly in the water, actually fishing" time over a day

This is better;
http://www.flexi-stripper.com/User_manual.htm

TL
MC