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Old August 27th, 2008, 01:09 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4EN7ibO1ec

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Old August 27th, 2008, 05:05 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On 26-Aug-2008, George Cleveland wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4EN7ibO1ec

Geo. C.




Thanks fror the OT
I could not watch more than 27 seconds of that.
Ludicrous but painful.

Fred
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Old August 27th, 2008, 05:16 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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I found it interesting, watched it twice. Reminded me of a cabaret
show on television here, not least because of the people laughing,
smiling, clapping, and even cheering, at every disaster he
mentioned.

Also seemed that more than a few people were more or less transfixed
by the whole thing. Extremely odd.

More like a circus show than serious politics.
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Old August 27th, 2008, 01:17 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 19:09:56 -0500, George Cleveland
wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4EN7ibO1ec

Geo. C.


http://www.gallup.com/poll/109846/Co...rom-Obama.aspx

The whole "four more years"/"Bush's third term" is little more than a
large number of Dems swiftboating their own ticket. If Obama and his
circle had come forward and said "We won't be perfect, but we'll be
better than McCain and here's why..." I'd offer Obama wouldn't be
dropping in the polls, including EC tracking, during his own convention.
Instead, he's beginning to sound like just another lying-out-his-ass
pol, and his claims of "high-road politics" when his obvious surrogates
are tunneling under the low road ain't helping his case at all. Bush is
out, regardless of whether his approval rating is 95% or .95%. People
get it - Obama and crew hate Bush and crew. Fine. But beating the guy
who isn't running ain't exactly a major accomplishment, and as a
campaign strategy, well...

And when "middle America" hears about how McCain is bad because he has
the same party affiliation as Bush, they tend to remember that Obama has
the same party affiliation as the folks who control Congress, of which
he is a member, and which they dislike even more than Bush...right along
with Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reed, and Teddy Kennedy...and
at the end of the day, he picked a guy of McCain's generation, who has
been in politics about as long as McCain, and who said McCain would make
a good Prez and Obama was still ****ing in his Pampers, in a tacit
admission that he needed some old guys who actually had some experience
showing him where the controls are.

Anyhoo (no, it isn't App State v. LSU...not yet, anyway...) - Here's the
current line: If the election were tomorrow, McCain wheeled over all
reasonable picks, 51-49, if McCain picked Romney, McCain 53-47, and if
the election were in 2 weeks, Obama continues as now, and McCain picks
the wildcard Lieberman and it is presented well, it could go
55plus-45minus, even 60-40. If Powell would get on board as veep, or
just campaign _hard_, 60-40 could be a ceiling for Obama. OTOH, if
Obama and company would shut the flock up about "four more years," and
point out how they differ from McCain, rather than Bush, they might pull
it out.

TC,
R
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Old August 27th, 2008, 02:16 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 08:51:20 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 07:17:16 -0500, wrote:

Here's the
current line: If the election were tomorrow, McCain wheeled over all
reasonable picks, 51-49, if McCain picked Romney, McCain 53-47, and if
the election were in 2 weeks, Obama continues as now, and McCain picks
the wildcard Lieberman and it is presented well, it could go
55plus-45minus, even 60-40. If Powell would get on board as veep, or
just campaign _hard_, 60-40 could be a ceiling for Obama.


Richard, I am reading Carly Fiorina's "Tough Choices." What do you
think of her as McCain's veep? He mentioned her as someone he would
seek for advice. She is very impressive.


IMO, too many skeletons, real and/or created, from HP-Compaq combined
with too-little name recognition to be a "best pick" or even "better
pick" but she would be in "reasonable picks" wheel. IAC, this is
politics - impressive accomplishments take a distant second to appearing
impressive. One need look no further than Obama for proof of that. And
for the record, I'm not saying that Obama couldn't do impressive things,
just that he hasn't done them yet. Heck, I'd support a McCain/Obama
ticket (and might well support an Obama presidency in 2012), probably
support a Biden/McCain (or a McCain/Biden) ticket, and would not support
any ticket that contained a Clinton or a Gore. Obama is just too much
of an unknown AND has too great a chance of being under the influence of
Kennedys, Pelosis, and other alleged "liberal" nest-featherers. The
more I see of Barick and Michelle, the more I am reminded of Bill and
Hillary...hmmm..."Bubba's Third Term"...it'd be interesting to see the
results of it being used...dimwits would think such a thing would be
great...

TC,
R
Dave

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Old August 27th, 2008, 08:56 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote:
Richard, I am reading Carly Fiorina's "Tough Choices." What do you
think of her as McCain's veep? He mentioned her as someone he would
seek for advice. She is very impressive.


(gasp) Do you have any idea what she did to HP?


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Old August 27th, 2008, 10:13 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
. ..

"Dave LaCourse" wrote:
Richard, I am reading Carly Fiorina's "Tough Choices." What do you
think of her as McCain's veep? He mentioned her as someone he would
seek for advice. She is very impressive.


(gasp) Do you have any idea what she did to HP?


......was thinking the same thing. Great leadership there.
Tom


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Old August 27th, 2008, 11:00 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote:
Richard, I am reading Carly Fiorina's "Tough Choices." *What do you
think of her as McCain's veep? *He mentioned her as someone he would
seek for advice. *She is very impressive.


(gasp) * Do you have any idea what she did to HP?


.....was thinking the same thing. Great leadership there.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Tom


Holey Bankruptcy Court, Batman. Then again, big business failures
going into politics is de rigueur these days.
Frank Reid
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Old August 27th, 2008, 11:37 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:13:39 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


"Charlie Wilson" wrote in message
...

"Dave LaCourse" wrote:
Richard, I am reading Carly Fiorina's "Tough Choices." What do you
think of her as McCain's veep? He mentioned her as someone he would
seek for advice. She is very impressive.


(gasp) Do you have any idea what she did to HP?


.....was thinking the same thing. Great leadership there.
Tom

Yeah, that's why Forbes and a whole bunch of other pubs, including
Time are so very impressed with her.

Dave


 




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