Just for 'tripper....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Even allowing that every person in PBS's 3-hour slot numbers watched the
whole 3 hours, including the speeches, it still only gives 41.9 million
voters to McCain's 41.6. On the other hand PBS itself says (via
Lehrer):

"_More than 42 million people tuned in Thursday to see John McCain's
acceptance speech_," (emp. added)....yet the ever "fair and balanced"
Lehrer crew continues with "matching the number who watched Barack
Obama's speech last week."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...aul_09-05.html

And on a side note...42 million is the same as 38 million?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...ace_08-29.html

SNICKER,
R

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:45:44 -0500, wrote:

Even allowing that every person in PBS's 3-hour slot numbers watched the
whole 3 hours, including the speeches, it still only gives 41.9 million
voters to McCain's 41.6. On the other hand PBS itself says (via
Lehrer):

"_More than 42 million people tuned in Thursday to see John McCain's
acceptance speech_," (emp. added)....yet the ever "fair and balanced"
Lehrer crew continues with "matching the number who watched Barack
Obama's speech last week."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...aul_09-05.html

And on a side note...42 million is the same as 38 million?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...ace_08-29.html

SNICKER,
R


"John McCain's acceptance speech may not be getting the rave reviews
of his Democratic rival Barack Obama's.

But more people watched on TVs measured by Nielsen Media Research.

Nielsen reported this afternoon that an estimated 38.9 million people
-- a record -- watched McCain's acceptance speech Thursday night on
the three broadcast networks, plus CNN, FOX News Channel, and MSNBC,
compared to 38.4 million who watched Obama's speech last week, which
was carried on four other cable networks as well.

McCain even drew a bigger audience than his running mate, Sarah Palin,
who drew about 37 million for her speech Wednesday night.

The usual gender and racial gap in elections showed up in the figures.
Significantly more men (17.9 million) watched McCain than Obama (16.2
million), while more women watched Obama (19.9 million) than McCain
(19.2 million), Nielsen said. Also, more whites watched McCain (32.2
million) than Obama (27 million), while the opposite held among
African Americans with 7.5 million watching Obama and 3.1 million
watching McCain.

When PBS is included, McCain's and Obama's viewerships are nearly
equal.

PBS, which compiles its figures separately, said that about 2.7
million tuned in for its coverage Thursday night -- down from 3.2
million for Palin and 3.5 million for Obama's acceptance speech.

That makes McCain's total audience nearly 41 million, compared to
nearly 42 million for Obama and about 40 million for Palin."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/..._speech_m.html


Anyone who watched these speeches would probably have to rate them
Obama-Palin-McCain. If McCain didn't have Palin on board to get the
talibangelicals hyped then he would already be trailing in the polls
after his mediocre presentation. If McCain wants to win this he has to
keep on appearing with Palin. On his own he is not very compelling. I
wonder how that makes him feel?

"George Cleveland" wrote in message
...
... he has to
keep on appearing with Palin. On his own he is not very compelling. I
wonder how that makes him feel?

.....probably makes him feel like he has a chance. Plus, more people cab be
exposed to that goofy-ass grin of his. Still,at some point, these two have
to answer real questions about real issues. And, as Obama pointed out
today,you can't just make things up, as they have to date.
Tom
......still hoping the nation will ultimately choose to vote for the smarter
folks. We've seen what the C students can accomplish and it's not pretty.
Not at all.

"Tom Littleton" wrote
.....still hoping the nation will ultimately choose to vote for the
smarter folks. We've seen what the C students can accomplish and it's not
pretty.

Graduating 894th out of 899 is a C average?

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:42:13 -0500, George Cleveland
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:45:44 -0500, wrote:

Even allowing that every person in PBS's 3-hour slot numbers watched the
whole 3 hours, including the speeches, it still only gives 41.9 million
voters to McCain's 41.6. On the other hand PBS itself says (via
Lehrer):

"_More than 42 million people tuned in Thursday to see John McCain's
acceptance speech_," (emp. added)....yet the ever "fair and balanced"
Lehrer crew continues with "matching the number who watched Barack
Obama's speech last week."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...aul_09-05.html

And on a side note...42 million is the same as 38 million?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...ace_08-29.html

SNICKER,
R


"John McCain's acceptance speech may not be getting the rave reviews
of his Democratic rival Barack Obama's.

But more people watched on TVs measured by Nielsen Media Research.

Nielsen reported this afternoon that an estimated 38.9 million people
-- a record -- watched McCain's acceptance speech Thursday night on
the three broadcast networks, plus CNN, FOX News Channel, and MSNBC,
compared to 38.4 million who watched Obama's speech last week, which
was carried on four other cable networks as well.

McCain even drew a bigger audience than his running mate, Sarah Palin,
who drew about 37 million for her speech Wednesday night.

The usual gender and racial gap in elections showed up in the figures.
Significantly more men (17.9 million) watched McCain than Obama (16.2
million), while more women watched Obama (19.9 million) than McCain
(19.2 million), Nielsen said. Also, more whites watched McCain (32.2
million) than Obama (27 million), while the opposite held among
African Americans with 7.5 million watching Obama and 3.1 million
watching McCain.

When PBS is included, McCain's and Obama's viewerships are nearly
equal.

PBS, which compiles its figures separately, said that about 2.7
million tuned in for its coverage Thursday night -- down from 3.2
million for Palin and 3.5 million for Obama's acceptance speech.

That makes McCain's total audience nearly 41 million, compared to
nearly 42 million for Obama

One more time - add the numbers in the article...

38.9 million plus 2.7 million = your answer here
38.4 million plus 3.5 million = your answer here

and about 40 million for Palin."

http://www.boston.com/news/politics/..._speech_m.html

Aside from the math versus description thing, the PBS numbers given are
_estimates_ for the entire 3 hours, not the speech, and they don't
include C-Span. I've also seen _estimates_ that claim PBS numbers at
Obama 4 mil and McCain 3.5 mil, again for the 3 hour period. When the
accurate numbers _for the speeches_ are used, McCain had more viewers.

Anyone who watched these speeches would probably have to rate them
Obama-Palin-McCain.

Nope. Not even close, and certainly not across all categories.

If McCain didn't have Palin on board to get the
talibangelicals hyped then he would already be trailing in the polls
after his mediocre presentation.

As of now, he does have her on board and he isn't trailing:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epo...obama-225.html

If McCain wants to win this he has to keep on appearing with Palin.
On his own he is not very compelling. I wonder how that makes him feel?

Like the President. Guess who wins the Super Bowl if both teams play
lousy football for almost 4 scoreless quarters, until the last second
when one team kicks a ugly, wobbly field goal that barely makes it
through the uprights...

HTH,
R

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:45:44 -0500, wrote:

Even allowing that every person in PBS's 3-hour slot numbers watched the
whole 3 hours, including the speeches, it still only gives 41.9 million
voters to McCain's 41.6. On the other hand PBS itself says (via
Lehrer):

"_More than 42 million people tuned in Thursday to see John McCain's
acceptance speech_," (emp. added)....yet the ever "fair and balanced"
Lehrer crew continues with "matching the number who watched Barack
Obama's speech last week."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...aul_09-05.html

And on a side note...42 million is the same as 38 million?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...ace_08-29.html

SNICKER,
R

Ok, not that I really care, but did your school have you in their SPED
programs - or is English a third language for you?

From the first link, it looks like the writers simply rounded up both sets of
totals to "over 42 million". No big deal - it's not a huge stretch, and it
sounds weightier - but that's still no win for you, bub.

And from your second link, "JEFFREY BROWN: Eighty thousand in the stadium and,
according to Nielsen, more than 38 million people around the country."

Apparently, you chose to ignore "According to Nielsen" - when that is the
exact same 38 million Nielsen number that has been reported by every news
outlet that has carried the story. It doesn't include the PBS numbers - as
also noted by every news outlet that reported all of the viewer tallies.

So, the bottom line is still this - which I will quote once again:

"PBS, which compiles its figures separately, said that about 2.7
million tuned in for its coverage Thursday night -- down from 3.2
million for Palin and 3.5 million for Obama's acceptance speech."

"That makes McCain's total audience nearly 41 million, compared to
nearly 42 million for Obama and about 40 million for Palin."

In summary, after all your "double-aught secret" baloney, you had and have
nothing credible that anyone here couldn't get out of a newspaper. And your
comprehension capabilities are now just as suspect...

Nice work.

/daytripper (this is going quite badly for you. Maybe stop digging? ;-)

Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

Whtas the **** does that mean?!?!

Its like a goat bleating and politics is disgusting enough w /o that

Fred

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 22:34:01 -0400, daytripper
wrote:

On Mon, 08 Sep 2008 18:45:44 -0500, wrote:

Even allowing that every person in PBS's 3-hour slot numbers watched the
whole 3 hours, including the speeches, it still only gives 41.9 million
voters to McCain's 41.6. On the other hand PBS itself says (via
Lehrer):

"_More than 42 million people tuned in Thursday to see John McCain's
acceptance speech_," (emp. added)....yet the ever "fair and balanced"
Lehrer crew continues with "matching the number who watched Barack
Obama's speech last week."

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...aul_09-05.html

And on a side note...42 million is the same as 38 million?

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/polit...ace_08-29.html

SNICKER,
R

Ok, not that I really care, but did your school have you in their SPED
programs - or is English a third language for you?

From the first link, it looks like the writers simply rounded up both sets of
totals to "over 42 million". No big deal - it's not a huge stretch, and it
sounds weightier - but that's still no win for you, bub.

And from your second link, "JEFFREY BROWN: Eighty thousand in the stadium and,
according to Nielsen, more than 38 million people around the country."

Apparently, you chose to ignore "According to Nielsen" - when that is the
exact same 38 million Nielsen number that has been reported by every news
outlet that has carried the story. It doesn't include the PBS numbers - as
also noted by every news outlet that reported all of the viewer tallies.

So, the bottom line is still this - which I will quote once again:

"PBS, which compiles its figures separately, said that about 2.7
million tuned in for its coverage Thursday night -- down from 3.2
million for Palin and 3.5 million for Obama's acceptance speech."

OK. So let's do some math. 38 million, according to PBS, watched Obama
minus the 3.5 million attributed to PBS equals 35.5 million viewers from
other-than-PBS sources. So that should be the Nielsen number. But the
Nielsen number is actually 38.379,000 (and 27,716,000 households,
compared to McCain's 28,298,000 million HHs...). Gee, you'd think PBS
would have included their own viewers in their own report...

"That makes McCain's total audience nearly 41 million, compared to
nearly 42 million for Obama and about 40 million for Palin."

In summary, after all your "double-aught secret" baloney, you had and have
nothing credible that anyone here couldn't get out of a newspaper. And your
comprehension capabilities are now just as suspect...

Nice work.

/daytripper (this is going quite badly for you. Maybe stop digging? ;-)

Naw...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...MNHN12OV1M.DTL

Hmmm...strange...the Nielsen numbers are the same, but the PBS
_estimates_ are different..."PBS estimates its audience for McCain was
3.5 million..." and Obama's speech was seen by 4 million...gee, don't
these folks at PBS have any real idea of the numbers?

SNICKER,
R
....you ready to put yer money where yer mouth is...?

On Sep 8, 7:49*pm, "Fred" wrote:
Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!

Whtas the **** does that mean?!?!

Its like a goat bleating and politics is disgusting enough w /o that

Fred

Its the sound of the hound of defeat.

Dave

On Tue, 09 Sep 2008 00:57:03 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

We've seen what the C students can accomplish and it's not pretty.
Not at all.

And yet you touted and voted for one four and eight years ago. d;o)

Because the country is so tired of Bush and his policies, one would
think that the Democrats would be an automatic shoo-in. However, it
seems far from that, and is now leaning for yet another Republican to
take over the WH. If you folks can not find anyone besides a
Gore/Kerry, and now an Obama to run, I should think you deserve it.

And the House and Senate have even poorer ratings than Bush. What up
with that? I thought the Dems were going to bring us wealth, lower
taxes, FREE health care FOR EVERYONE. They seemed to have failed on
all accounts. Pelosi is a laugh, and Harry looks dumber that Gore.

McCain over Obama and it won't be close. The way it should be because
Obama HASN'T ACCOMPLISHED ANYTHING EXCEPT RUNNING FOR POTUS, and
you've drunk his kool aide.

Dave
(OBROFF: Cool morning, over-cast, no wind, so fishing should be good.
Only a few people in camp and the 1400 cfs flow keeps out the
walk-ins. We should have the river to ourselves again today. Harry
Mason's Killer Caddis is *still* the fly to have.)