Sage rod advice, no pun

"Rodger" wrote in message
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One more question...

The other 'good' rod I lost was a G.Loomis, 10' ft., 9 wt, 2 pc.,
for fishing Canada. The only eqivalent Loomis rods I have found so
far are 4 pc. I have not been a fan of anything other than 2 pc. rods
but on a rod of that size it might not make that much difference. Any
opinions on that?

I don't think it makes much difference anymore on 2 vs 4 piece rods. However
Loomis does offer it's GLX series in a two piece config that I am
considering for great lakes steelheading. But its not an apples to apples
comparison for you since they have a 10' 8wt, not a 9 wt.

On Sep 14, 5:09*pm, "Rodger" wrote:

The other 'good' rod I lost was a G.Loomis, 10' ft., 9 wt, 2 pc.,
for fishing Canada. * *The only eqivalent Loomis rods I have found so
far are 4 pc. * *I have not been a fan of anything other than 2 pc. rods
but on a rod of that size it might not make that much difference. *Any
opinions on that?



Something else which you may like to consider in this regard, is that
rods have become progressively more "powerful". A lot of rods now
designated as #5 weights are considered by many to be really #6
weights at least.

In the heavier weight ranges this is often even more pronounced.
Personally I don´t like to use anything heavier or longer than a 9´6"
#8 weight for any length of time, and depending on the fishing. Even
for sal****er fishing my main standby is a 9´6" #7 ( which a few
people would also actually consider to be nearer an #8).

Anything longer or heavier in a single handed rod gets to be too much
like work for me now. If I want to use heavier flies etc, then I use a
matched shooting head appropriate to the flies/rod/circumstances.

Many of the newer rods are a bit lighter, but the length is still a
problem.

TL
MC

Rodger wrote:
I was recently rear ended on the highway resulting in the total loss of
my Yukon along with three flyrods and reels. One of the rods was
a Sage RPL 590 Graphite III, 9', 5 wt., 2 pc....which is now an
unintentional 4 pc. For the insurance claim I have been trying to
establish what model Sage rod is an equivalent today. I would be
greatful for any advice.

I broke an RPL two years ago and Sage replaced the broken section
and completely refurbished the rod. Had been pretty beat up --
dirty, scored, chipped grip, dings on the reel seat, etc. -- came
back indistinguishable from a new RPL. If you think that's made
me more "loyal" to Sage as a maker, you're right.

Try it. You might have the same experience.

- JR

On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:36:24 -0400, "Wayne Knight"
wrote:


"Rodger" wrote in message
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I was recently rear ended on the highway resulting in the total loss of
my Yukon along with three flyrods and reels. One of the rods was
a Sage RPL 590 Graphite III, 9', 5 wt., 2 pc....which is now an
unintentional 4 pc. For the insurance claim I have been trying to
establish what model Sage rod is an equivalent today. I would be
greatful for any advice.

Z-Axis series, $610.00 retail.

Mr. Lysyk gave you "sage" advice. If I recall correctly, when Sage went to
an uncoditional warranty they retro'd the warranty on their old rods that
people had bought prior to the warranty. If you are the original purchaser
of that rod, they may not have any RPL blanks to fix your rod but they may
provide you with their latest replacement at marginal cost.



Oh and Dickie, the XP series was only recently discontinued.

Ah...I tend to not keep up with "old and outdated" and "NEW AND
IMPROVED!!!" I knew that it was, um, "not current," but I wasn't sure
about how many levels of bullsh...er, improvements...that they had
advertis...er, made...

Hell, without consulting model charts, catalogs, and other assorted
bull****, I think the "LATEST AND GREATEST!!!" Sage in my locker is an
LL (or maybe a little later rod, but not much...) and I have no idea
where it fits into the scheme...don't care, too...mated with a Billy
Trout and it fishes fine.

TC,
R

On Sep 14, 8:46*pm, wrote:
On Sun, 14 Sep 2008 11:36:24 -0400, "Wayne Knight"





wrote:

"Rodger" wrote in message
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I was recently rear ended on the highway resulting in the total loss of
my Yukon along with three flyrods and reels. * One of the rods was
a Sage RPL 590 Graphite III, 9', 5 wt., 2 pc....which is now an
unintentional 4 pc. * For the insurance claim I have been trying to
establish what model Sage rod is an equivalent today. * I would be
greatful for any advice.

Z-Axis series, $610.00 retail.

Mr. Lysyk gave you "sage" advice. If I recall correctly, when Sage went to
an uncoditional warranty they retro'd the warranty on their old rods that
people had bought prior to the warranty. If you are the original purchaser
of that rod, they may not have any RPL blanks to fix your rod but they may
provide you with their latest replacement at marginal cost.

Oh and Dickie, the XP series was only recently discontinued.

Ah...I tend to not keep up with "old and outdated" and "NEW AND
IMPROVED!!!" *I knew that it was, um, "not current," but I wasn't sure
about how many levels of bullsh...er, improvements...that they had
advertis...er, made...

Hell, without consulting model charts, catalogs, and other assorted
bull****, I think the "LATEST AND GREATEST!!!" Sage in my locker is an
LL (or maybe a little later rod, but not much...) and I have no idea
where it fits into the scheme...don't care, too...mated with a Billy
Trout and it fishes fine.

TC,
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Well an LL is one of their best designs of all time IMHO. One of the
last Green designs if I am not mistaken. (Jim (?)Green the designer,
not "green" in the enviro sense) And still sought after. As a matter
of fact, I am going to look for one rat now in defiance of the coming
Black Monday.
Dave

On 14-Sep-2008, JR wrote:

broke an RPL two years ago and Sage replaced the broken section
and completely refurbished the rod. Had been pretty beat up --
dirty, scored, chipped grip, dings on the reel seat, etc. -- came
back indistinguishable from a new RPL. If you think that's made
me more "loyal" to Sage as a maker, you're right.

Try it. You might have the same experience.

- JR


I recently had a similar experience with nmy Sage 5 wt

repaired and refurbished - only about 4-6 weeks ago

Fred

"Rodger" wrote in message
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I was recently rear ended on the highway resulting in the total loss of
my Yukon along with three flyrods and reels. One of the rods was
a Sage RPL 590 Graphite III, 9', 5 wt., 2 pc....which is now an
unintentional 4 pc. For the insurance claim I have been trying to
establish what model Sage rod is an equivalent today.

i know it may be just my individual quirks, but every damned sage i have
ever fished felt as if it had been rear ended and foreshortened.
i'd try to get the insurance money and buy a winston or a scott,
instead.

wayno

On Mon, 15 Sep 2008 10:52:36 -0400, "Wayne Harrison"
wrote:


"Rodger" wrote in message
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I was recently rear ended on the highway resulting in the total loss of
my Yukon along with three flyrods and reels. One of the rods was
a Sage RPL 590 Graphite III, 9', 5 wt., 2 pc....which is now an
unintentional 4 pc. For the insurance claim I have been trying to
establish what model Sage rod is an equivalent today.

i know it may be just my individual quirks, but every damned sage i have
ever fished felt as if it had been rear ended and foreshortened.

Huh...that sorta sounds like it had been....changed...

i'd try to get the insurance money

TRY?! WTF?! Oh, magnanimous mother of merciful Mormons! (or if one
prefers, Jesus Christ on a pony!) - you've been debrief...er,
disbarred!!

and buy a winston or a scott, instead.

Or perhaps a TFO and a good bottle or three of Scotch...

wayno

TC,
R

On Sep 14, 10:15 am, "Rodger" wrote:
I was recently rear ended on the highway resulting in the total loss of
my Yukon along with three flyrods and reels. One of the rods was
a Sage RPL 590 Graphite III, 9', 5 wt., 2 pc....which is now an
unintentional 4 pc. For the insurance claim I have been trying to
establish what model Sage rod is an equivalent today. I would be
greatful for any advice.

Thanks

Buff

Check the "Things For Sale" section at www.flyanglersonline.com.
Someone has that exact rod for sale for $200.

wrote in message
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Ah...I tend to not keep up with "old and outdated" and "NEW AND
IMPROVED!!!" I knew that it was, um, "not current," but I wasn't sure
about how many levels of bullsh...er, improvements...that they had
advertis...er, made...

The why bother answering if you can't answer the question correctly?

Hell, without consulting model charts, catalogs, and other assorted
bull****, I think the "LATEST AND GREATEST!!!" Sage in my locker is an
LL (or maybe a little later rod, but not much...) and I have no idea
where it fits into the scheme...don't care, too...mated with a Billy
Trout and it fishes fine.

IMO, the LL series in the lighter weights were the best rods Sage ever
made. Regardless, whatever business interest the Dean family have, surely
"they" have used some form of "new and improved" in their product
advertising? They wouldn't lie to us consumers would they?