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Old November 7th, 2004, 04:40 PM
rw
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In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

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Old November 7th, 2004, 04:56 PM
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Broken in your view, not in mine.

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In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.

In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.

Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?

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Old November 7th, 2004, 05:39 PM
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Sierra fisher wrote:
Broken in your view, not in mine.


California has a population (2003 estimate) of 35,484,453, and 55
electoral votes. That comes to 1.5x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

Wyoming has a population of 439,479 (2002 estimate) and 3 electoral
votes. That comes to 6.8x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

A voter in Wyoming has 4.5 times the voting power of a voter in
California in a Presidential election. That's wrong in my book.

If Kerry had carried Ohio, and it was close, the Republicans would be
screaming for reform of the electoral system.

In the original Constitution, slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in
national elections. That was a compromise to get the Southern states to
ratify. That was wrong, and it was later corrected. The Constitution is
a living document.

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Old November 7th, 2004, 05:39 PM
rw
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Sierra fisher wrote:
Broken in your view, not in mine.


California has a population (2003 estimate) of 35,484,453, and 55
electoral votes. That comes to 1.5x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

Wyoming has a population of 439,479 (2002 estimate) and 3 electoral
votes. That comes to 6.8x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

A voter in Wyoming has 4.5 times the voting power of a voter in
California in a Presidential election. That's wrong in my book.

If Kerry had carried Ohio, and it was close, the Republicans would be
screaming for reform of the electoral system.

In the original Constitution, slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in
national elections. That was a compromise to get the Southern states to
ratify. That was wrong, and it was later corrected. The Constitution is
a living document.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
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Old November 7th, 2004, 05:39 PM
rw
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Default The Electoral system

Sierra fisher wrote:
Broken in your view, not in mine.


California has a population (2003 estimate) of 35,484,453, and 55
electoral votes. That comes to 1.5x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

Wyoming has a population of 439,479 (2002 estimate) and 3 electoral
votes. That comes to 6.8x10-6 electoral-votes/person.

A voter in Wyoming has 4.5 times the voting power of a voter in
California in a Presidential election. That's wrong in my book.

If Kerry had carried Ohio, and it was close, the Republicans would be
screaming for reform of the electoral system.

In the original Constitution, slaves were counted as 3/5 of a person in
national elections. That was a compromise to get the Southern states to
ratify. That was wrong, and it was later corrected. The Constitution is
a living document.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.
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Old November 7th, 2004, 05:51 PM
Larry L
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"rw" wrote



Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?



Yes .... one thing I hoped would happen this time was that Bush would win
the popular vote, Kerry the electoral .... thus making everyone have a
recent reason to be ****ed at a bad system., and progress possible.

As it sits now there are very few, if any, politicians in this country with
more concern for the future of the country than concern for the future of
their party ... on either side ... thus reasonable change that would benefit
the country will continue to be stifled by those "in the bad system, because
it's bad"



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Old November 7th, 2004, 05:51 PM
Larry L
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Default The Electoral system


"rw" wrote



Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?



Yes .... one thing I hoped would happen this time was that Bush would win
the popular vote, Kerry the electoral .... thus making everyone have a
recent reason to be ****ed at a bad system., and progress possible.

As it sits now there are very few, if any, politicians in this country with
more concern for the future of the country than concern for the future of
their party ... on either side ... thus reasonable change that would benefit
the country will continue to be stifled by those "in the bad system, because
it's bad"



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Old November 7th, 2004, 05:51 PM
Larry L
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Default The Electoral system


"rw" wrote



Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?



Yes .... one thing I hoped would happen this time was that Bush would win
the popular vote, Kerry the electoral .... thus making everyone have a
recent reason to be ****ed at a bad system., and progress possible.

As it sits now there are very few, if any, politicians in this country with
more concern for the future of the country than concern for the future of
their party ... on either side ... thus reasonable change that would benefit
the country will continue to be stifled by those "in the bad system, because
it's bad"



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Old November 7th, 2004, 07:33 PM
George Adams
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From: rw

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.


In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.


Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?


No It is working just fine, and I would feel the same if Kerry had won Ohio.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

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Old November 7th, 2004, 07:33 PM
George Adams
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Default The Electoral system

From: rw

In the 2000 election Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 votes,
but lost the election to Bush by the Electoral vote count.


In the 2004 election Bush won the popular vote by about 3,500,000 votes,
but if Kerry had gotten about 140,000 more votes in Ohio he would now be
the President-elect by virtue of a majority of Electoral votes.


Isn't it time to reform this stupid, broken system?


No It is working just fine, and I would feel the same if Kerry had won Ohio.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

 




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