SW spinnerbaits

You did not give him a chance to reform. You did it early on. It's all in
the timing.
Bill

"Steve & Chris Clark" wrote in message
...
JEEEEZZ Bill, you called me a "clueless" "low life" for saying the same
thing, about ol' Rodney, a year ago on Jan 20th! What happened?????
--
Stony

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net...
I would not use it just because you have been such an asshole promoting
it.

If I ever invent something for bass fishing, I'm not sure I will tell
anyone here about it big grin! I love an entrepenuer..they make things
happen, but having been a salesman, I also know that "selling" is an art
that few people ever really master! The secret is to combine the two,
offer a great product at a reaonable price, and then let the consumer
convince themselves that it is indeed a "great" product...let them sell
themselves! If you want to sell something...be real quite, and
listen...then answer their questions!
Good luck Rodney...but you might want to take a different tact .
Cheers
JK

AGREED!
"John Kerr" wrote in message
...
If I ever invent something for bass fishing, I'm not sure I will tell
anyone here about it big grin! I love an entrepenuer..they make things
happen, but having been a salesman, I also know that "selling" is an art
that few people ever really master! The secret is to combine the two,
offer a great product at a reaonable price, and then let the consumer
convince themselves that it is indeed a "great" product...let them sell
themselves! If you want to sell something...be real quite, and
listen...then answer their questions!
Good luck Rodney...but you might want to take a different tact .
Cheers
JK

ROBBY wrote:

AGREED!
"John Kerr" wrote in message
...

If I ever invent something for bass fishing, I'm not sure I will tell
anyone here about it big grin! I love an entrepenuer..they make things
happen, but having been a salesman, I also know that "selling" is an art
that few people ever really master! The secret is to combine the two,
offer a great product at a reaonable price, and then let the consumer
convince themselves that it is indeed a "great" product...let them sell
themselves! If you want to sell something...be real quite, and
listen...then answer their questions!
Good luck Rodney...but you might want to take a different tact .
Cheers
JK
ANOTHER alter ego? Can you killfile an entire isp?

The bottom line is that Rodney's commercially-motivated portrayal of his
rubberband merely reflects how very little he knows about bass.

He'd like us all to believe that there's a distinct advantage to having our
lures sit in one spot. He'd also like us to believe that the presence of a
6"+ very visible rubber band bouncing around like a yo-yo won't spook more
bass than it attracts. He'd also like us to believe that his "rig" is the
only way of keeping a bait in a solitary position. These are all
falsehoods.

The masses of people that Rodney claims he drudged up on ROFB (lol) - get
your free samples of his "sub-par" material (why would someone want to
promote a product by sending folks insufficient versions???). You'll all
agree that it is nothing more than underwear elastic.

The facts are this: The most common form of strike in bass fishing is a
reaction strike. That is because bass actually spend a very small portion
of each day actively feeding, if they feed at all that day. Bass strike
lures that come into their "strike window" because they are mean,
instinctive killers. These are basically inactive fish. That's why 90% of
the average basser's trips aren't the trips that they remember for the rest
of their lives.

Generally we have to work pretty hard for that limit. Only occasionally do
we encounter truly active, feeding fish. Those are the days that we load
the boat, Thank the Lord for them. When bass are actively feeding they are
quite catchable, maybe even with a rubber band bouncing only inches from
your lure.

Now, if you truly understand the reaction strike principle you know that
most bass don't inch up to a bait & look it over before eating. Sure,
occasionally they do. But more often than not giving a bass a great look at
a solitary lure is the ticket to failure. That's why if you watch the truly
great jig fishermen, flippers & pitchers like Denny Brauer & Tommy Biffle,
you'll see them put their bait right on shallow cover, let it sink to the
bottom, jiggle it once or twice, then retrieve for their next presentation.
These guys know that the odds of leaving that jig down there for a long
period of time & drawing a strike that didn't come almost instantly are not
good.

You may marvel at how Kevin Van Dam smokes down a shoreline with a
spinnerbait & loads the boat. You may find it a great contrast to the jig
fishing that Brauer does. But in reality he & Brauer are usually fishing
for the same kinds of strikes. Although they prefer using different fishing
methods to draw them, they both are looking for reaction strikes. They know
that is their best bet, plain & simple.

Just as most bass strike at anything they perceive as food that passes
within the reaction strike "window", 90% of bass spook at the first sign of
an unnatural element in their territory. A bouncing rubberband is about as
good a bass-spooker as I can think of.

As for Rodney himself, I'm sure my image of the guy is evident. He
reinforces my image with every post he makes. If I ran the Mojo Company,
I'd certainly shut that knucklehead up or cut him loose in a hurry (probably
what Renosky did - face it, if the rubberbands were selling for them Rodney
wouldn't be publicly bashing them, now would he?).

No matter what you call it, a turd is still a turd. I thought Craig knew a
turd when he saw one. I know RichZ does...

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...

I am an active member on 5 other fishing news groups, not one of the
other five have attacked me for making this offer, they instead sent me
a private email, asking for my address to send their SASE to.

I have seen several of these other posts, and none that I saw had any
POSTED responses, of course I don't know about private email. You
probably wouldn't have been "attacked" here had you done the same thing
here, but no, you had your "alter ego" buddy Brab B. start in with
responses, and then he became several others. For someone who says we
are all jealous, you sure go a long way to make it look like you get
good responses to your posts.

go-bassn wrote:

For someone who says we
are all jealous, you sure go a long way to make it look like you get
good responses to your posts.

You just proved my point, you claim to know more than the "real" bass
pros who have used my "rubber band" as you like to call it.

Enough said,, your a wanna be, you assume , ass/u/me , until you
actually test and know the real facts.

What you have writen is slanderous, to me and my product, it is based on
lies, not facts.

You have not done any testing, you don't know if the thing causes fish
to run from it, when it absolutely does not, we have never seen any fish
anywhere, run from the action of the bungee NONE "NOT ONE", with
thousands of fish caught and filmed underwater, as well as those watched
through sight fishing, actually, many strike it, (You were not alone in
this misbelief, until people actually used it). You have writen this
post in the fear that members of this group will find out that you don't
know what your talking about,, you don't want them to try it, because it
will make you look like a total fool when they do, that is the only
reason you don't want them taking advantage of the free offer. If you
believed what you had writen, you would have wanted them all to take it
, so you could rub it in , if it did not do as I claimed. Your scared
now, as I have already started sending them out, are you going to
belittle everyone who would try to defend it that comes on here now.. I
will bet you you will, just like you have the few that have stood up for
me .

Your hoping that after this post you made that the members here will be
afraid to tell the truth here after they have seen what this rig can do
and how it produces fish. Your hoping they like you so much they just
won't take the chance of making you mad, and/or look bad.


Your a JERK, plane, and simple, You do great as long as people feed your
ego, your a great friend to them, let someone that knows "more" than you
do about something, and you attack them. WeLL BACK OFF, you have
crossed the edge now, any more references to my contracts or dealings
with my licensees will land you in court. So could any more personal
attacks. Believe and write what you want to about what you "think", or
"believe" about my products, as the facts will soon be in by even people
here that your a fool on those beliefs, SInce you won't believe the true
experts in this field, about what my rig can do. The Guys who make their
living in fishing.






--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks ,
Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long
Shot rig
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Great explaination Warren... and I'd probably think about putting this info
in the FAQ's if anyone wants to second it. I'll be glad cut and copy this to
Andrew.


"go-bassn" wrote in message
news
The bottom line is that Rodney's commercially-motivated portrayal of his
rubberband merely reflects how very little he knows about bass.

He'd like us all to believe that there's a distinct advantage to having
our
lures sit in one spot. He'd also like us to believe that the presence of
a
6"+ very visible rubber band bouncing around like a yo-yo won't spook more
bass than it attracts. He'd also like us to believe that his "rig" is the
only way of keeping a bait in a solitary position. These are all
falsehoods.

The masses of people that Rodney claims he drudged up on ROFB (lol) - get
your free samples of his "sub-par" material (why would someone want to
promote a product by sending folks insufficient versions???). You'll all
agree that it is nothing more than underwear elastic.

The facts are this: The most common form of strike in bass fishing is a
reaction strike. That is because bass actually spend a very small portion
of each day actively feeding, if they feed at all that day. Bass strike
lures that come into their "strike window" because they are mean,
instinctive killers. These are basically inactive fish. That's why 90%
of
the average basser's trips aren't the trips that they remember for the
rest
of their lives.

Generally we have to work pretty hard for that limit. Only occasionally
do
we encounter truly active, feeding fish. Those are the days that we load
the boat, Thank the Lord for them. When bass are actively feeding they are
quite catchable, maybe even with a rubber band bouncing only inches from
your lure.

Now, if you truly understand the reaction strike principle you know that
most bass don't inch up to a bait & look it over before eating. Sure,
occasionally they do. But more often than not giving a bass a great look
at
a solitary lure is the ticket to failure. That's why if you watch the
truly
great jig fishermen, flippers & pitchers like Denny Brauer & Tommy Biffle,
you'll see them put their bait right on shallow cover, let it sink to the
bottom, jiggle it once or twice, then retrieve for their next
presentation.
These guys know that the odds of leaving that jig down there for a long
period of time & drawing a strike that didn't come almost instantly are
not
good.

You may marvel at how Kevin Van Dam smokes down a shoreline with a
spinnerbait & loads the boat. You may find it a great contrast to the jig
fishing that Brauer does. But in reality he & Brauer are usually fishing
for the same kinds of strikes. Although they prefer using different
fishing
methods to draw them, they both are looking for reaction strikes. They
know
that is their best bet, plain & simple.

Just as most bass strike at anything they perceive as food that passes
within the reaction strike "window", 90% of bass spook at the first sign
of
an unnatural element in their territory. A bouncing rubberband is about
as
good a bass-spooker as I can think of.

As for Rodney himself, I'm sure my image of the guy is evident. He
reinforces my image with every post he makes. If I ran the Mojo Company,
I'd certainly shut that knucklehead up or cut him loose in a hurry
(probably
what Renosky did - face it, if the rubberbands were selling for them
Rodney
wouldn't be publicly bashing them, now would he?).

No matter what you call it, a turd is still a turd. I thought Craig knew
a
turd when he saw one. I know RichZ does...

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/



"Henry Hefner" wrote in message
...

I am an active member on 5 other fishing news groups, not one of the
other five have attacked me for making this offer, they instead sent
me
a private email, asking for my address to send their SASE to.

I have seen several of these other posts, and none that I saw had any
POSTED responses, of course I don't know about private email. You
probably wouldn't have been "attacked" here had you done the same thing
here, but no, you had your "alter ego" buddy Brab B. start in with
responses, and then he became several others. For someone who says we
are all jealous, you sure go a long way to make it look like you get
good responses to your posts.

Charles B. Summers wrote:

Great explaination Warren... and I'd probably think about putting this info
in the FAQ's if anyone wants to second it. I'll be glad cut and copy this to
Andrew.

Do this in it's entirety and it will be SLANDER,, I hope you have a good
lawyer,, I do, I have already sent this post to him, he wants to move
now on it, today, as he can prove damages,, it is a shame ya'll have
taken this this far, but I have no choice now. WIth the amount of
evidence we have after two years of testing, and the amount of
"professional" witnesses to the contrary of these statements, you would
not have a chance.

It's your move, make it.

I'm willing to let it drop at this point, if it goes beyond this , I'm
not. I highly recommend you call your attorney, send him all the post
that have been made, and ask him if you should proceed. It just might
save your butt. (unless he just wants to make about 50,000 grand from
"you" trying to defend this)

You see now if people do a search on my products and find these post,
it would cost future sells, and the fact they are totally based on
"LIES" Damages will be awarded

This goes way beyond freedom of speech.

DOn't push me any further, you will live to regret it.

I'm not threating you, I'm warning you, I don't bluff

I have documented and filmed proof of every statement that I have made
to this group concerning the Boomerang and the Long SHot.

What you personally say, is your own business, what you post to the web
as being fact, is not, unless you have proof, and are willing to pay to
defend it.

If you would like to have your attorney speak to mine before you make
the worst mistake of your life, that I can arrange.

Otherwise let this drop now, I'm tired of playing these chillist games.

--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks ,
Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long
Shot rig
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Talking about a lure is one thing, proving a lure is another. You've done
enough talking, now let's see the proof. I'm not just talking about anything
you've filmed because we all know that filming can be faked, modified, and
whatever. We've, or at least I have invited YOU to come to Florida to prove
your bait against anything else that we can fish, but YOU'VE backed out
saying that money is not the issue.

Since money isn't the issue, then do it just to prove what you are saying is
true. You'll earn no respect for just coming into a newsgroup, who you say
means nothing to you, and talking about your product while belittling the
readers who don't care. Just because you're offering something for free,
still does not give you the right to come in here are bad-mouth us. If this
group means nothing to you... Why are you here?

If you want to earn some respect, come to Florida... if not then just go
away. I don't care about your Long Shot and there's nothing that you can do
to change my mind about it. There may have been a time where I would have
tried it... but your attitude has completely changed that. Your attitude is
the reason most people in here dis-like you.

I know your next thought is that there are people here that have taken you
up on your free offer, so you don't have to mention it. I hope those that
have, do well with it. I'd be more willing to listen to their opinions than
yours.

Contact me personally if you want to sue me. Leave it off the group.


"Rodney" wrote in message
...
go-bassn wrote:

For someone who says we
are all jealous, you sure go a long way to make it look like you get
good responses to your posts.

You just proved my point, you claim to know more than the "real" bass
pros who have used my "rubber band" as you like to call it.

Enough said,, your a wanna be, you assume , ass/u/me , until you
actually test and know the real facts.

What you have writen is slanderous, to me and my product, it is based on
lies, not facts.

You have not done any testing, you don't know if the thing causes fish
to run from it, when it absolutely does not, we have never seen any fish
anywhere, run from the action of the bungee NONE "NOT ONE", with
thousands of fish caught and filmed underwater, as well as those watched
through sight fishing, actually, many strike it, (You were not alone in
this misbelief, until people actually used it). You have writen this
post in the fear that members of this group will find out that you don't
know what your talking about,, you don't want them to try it, because it
will make you look like a total fool when they do, that is the only
reason you don't want them taking advantage of the free offer. If you
believed what you had writen, you would have wanted them all to take it
, so you could rub it in , if it did not do as I claimed. Your scared
now, as I have already started sending them out, are you going to
belittle everyone who would try to defend it that comes on here now.. I
will bet you you will, just like you have the few that have stood up for
me .

Your hoping that after this post you made that the members here will be
afraid to tell the truth here after they have seen what this rig can do
and how it produces fish. Your hoping they like you so much they just
won't take the chance of making you mad, and/or look bad.


Your a JERK, plane, and simple, You do great as long as people feed your
ego, your a great friend to them, let someone that knows "more" than you
do about something, and you attack them. WeLL BACK OFF, you have
crossed the edge now, any more references to my contracts or dealings
with my licensees will land you in court. So could any more personal
attacks. Believe and write what you want to about what you "think", or
"believe" about my products, as the facts will soon be in by even people
here that your a fool on those beliefs, SInce you won't believe the true
experts in this field, about what my rig can do. The Guys who make their
living in fishing.






--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks ,
Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long
Shot rig
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

Rodney's right. (Did I just say that?) Let's just drop it. I don't need to see
any more evidence to confirm what I've thought all along....he's a moron.
Jim Horner
http://www.teamhornerfishing.com