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Peak Vise
I had the opportunity to give my new Peak Vise a workout this weekend. I
am very glad that I took a risk on this vise. It is most definitely the best fly vise for less than $200.00. |
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"Mark" wrote... I had the opportunity to give my new Peak Vise a workout this weekend. I am very glad that I took a risk on this vise. It is most definitely the best fly vise for less than $200.00. Which others have you used? -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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I should have been more clear about it being "best of class" in true-rotary
vises $200. While the Renzetti Traveler clearly has brand recognition, IHMO, it is poorly made compared to the Peak Vise (which is completely machined). Also, IHMO, to get a better manufactured vise, one has to move up to a Dyna-King rotary ($200). The Peak Vise, with its six pound base, is rock solid, even when tying very large flies. Also, after using a fly vise with a white base, I cannot understand why most companies paint them black. At $129.00, this vise is a bargain. Best of all, it is made in the U.S.A. With the movement offshore to low-cost production centers resulting in the loss of our manufacturing and engineering bases, it nice to be able to purchase something that is made in the U.S. without having to lie to one's wife about the price (i.e., I hope my wife does not sell my gear for what I told her it cost when I die :-). Here is a list of the $200 vises that I had used. $200 True Rotary Vises Renzetti Traveler, DanVise $200 Quasi-Rotary (i.e., 360 rotation vises) Anvil Apex, Dyna-King Kingfisher, Griffin Patriot $200 Fixed Original Model "A", Griffin Superior 2a "Tim J." wrote in message ... "Mark" wrote... I had the opportunity to give my new Peak Vise a workout this weekend. I am very glad that I took a risk on this vise. It is most definitely the best fly vise for less than $200.00. Which others have you used? -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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Mark,
Sometimes being labeled as "Made in USA" or in my case "Made in Canada" can be and frequently is misleading. In a lot of cases all of the parts for various items are sourced from overseas and a small percentage of final assembly is completed "here", usually just enough to be able to have the "Made in ____" label. Here in Canada i believe it is in the range of 10% - 20% of the work must be completed here to qualify. I work am the purchaser for 2 commercial marine stores and deal with this crap of being labeled as "Made in ____" everyday. Jamie "Mark" wrote in message ... I should have been more clear about it being "best of class" in true-rotary vises $200. While the Renzetti Traveler clearly has brand recognition, IHMO, it is poorly made compared to the Peak Vise (which is completely machined). Also, IHMO, to get a better manufactured vise, one has to move up to a Dyna-King rotary ($200). The Peak Vise, with its six pound base, is rock solid, even when tying very large flies. Also, after using a fly vise with a white base, I cannot understand why most companies paint them black. At $129.00, this vise is a bargain. Best of all, it is made in the U.S.A. With the movement offshore to low-cost production centers resulting in the loss of our manufacturing and engineering bases, it nice to be able to purchase something that is made in the U.S. without having to lie to one's wife about the price (i.e., I hope my wife does not sell my gear for what I told her it cost when I die :-). Here is a list of the $200 vises that I had used. $200 True Rotary Vises Renzetti Traveler, DanVise $200 Quasi-Rotary (i.e., 360 rotation vises) Anvil Apex, Dyna-King Kingfisher, Griffin Patriot $200 Fixed Original Model "A", Griffin Superior 2a "Tim J." wrote in message ... "Mark" wrote... I had the opportunity to give my new Peak Vise a workout this weekend. I am very glad that I took a risk on this vise. It is most definitely the best fly vise for less than $200.00. Which others have you used? -- TL, Tim ------------------------ http://css.sbcma.com/timj |
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This vise is most definitely made here in the U.S. The parent company of
"Peak Fishing" is "Peak Engineering and Automation." I called later in the day because UPS (a.k.a. Gorilla Express) had damaged the vise in route to my house, and, when Kurt picked up the phone, I heard the distinct sound of machine centers running in the background. I am an engineer professionally, and I call pick out a low production product from a mile away. The peak vise has that distinct small-shop look. "Jamie Caddick" wrote in message ... Mark, Sometimes being labeled as "Made in USA" or in my case "Made in Canada" can be and frequently is misleading. In a lot of cases all of the parts for various items are sourced from overseas and a small percentage of final assembly is completed "here", usually just enough to be able to have the "Made in ____" label. Here in Canada i believe it is in the range of 10% - 20% of the work must be completed here to qualify. I work am the purchaser for 2 commercial marine stores and deal with this crap of being labeled as "Made in ____" everyday. Jamie |
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In article , Jamie
Caddick wrote: Mark, Sometimes being labeled as "Made in USA" or in my case "Made in Canada" can be and frequently is misleading. In a lot of cases all of the parts for various items are sourced from overseas and a small percentage of final assembly is completed "here", usually just enough to be able to have the "Made in ____" label. Here in Canada i believe it is in the range of 10% - 20% of the work must be completed here to qualify. I work am the purchaser for 2 commercial marine stores and deal with this crap of being labeled as "Made in ____" everyday. Jamie There's an interesting (and amazingly coherent and non-legal-ese) explanation of the FTC rule about made in America located here http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/madeusa.htm Short story, All, or virtually all, manufactoring which includes subcomponents and assembly need to be done in the US for it to have the label. Interesting as well is that cars, furs, textile and wool have to have the UC Content broken out. Allen Catonsville. mD |
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"Allen Epps" wrote in message
et... There's an interesting (and amazingly coherent and non-legal-ese) explanation of the FTC rule about made in America located here http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/madeusa.htm Short story, All, or virtually all, manufactoring which includes subcomponents and assembly need to be done in the US for it to have the label. Interesting as well is that cars, furs, textile and wool have to have the UC Content broken out. But then there's this from the same page you posted the link to: -------------------------------------------------------------- The Standard For Unqualified Made In USA Claims What is the standard for a product to be called Made in USA without qualification? For a product to be called Made in USA, or claimed to be of domestic origin without qualifications or limits on the claim, the product must be "all or virtually all" made in the U.S. The term "United States," as referred to in the Enforcement Policy Statement, includes the 50 states, the District of Columbia, and the U.S. territories and possessions. ----------------------------------------------------------------- So if it's made overseas, but in a U.S.Territory, like Guam, it can still be called "Made in the USA." A lot of the crap from Wal-Mart that is labeled "Made in the USA" is actually made by some poor foreigner making 20 cents an hour. |
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Mark wrote:
You left out the DynaKing Barracuda Trekker Jr. It's not much under $200 ($189) but you can find it at places that charge no shipping and no tax. I considered the Peak when I purchased the Trekker Jr. about 3 months ago... it was just about to come out on the retail market, was still in testing by pros and decided against it. I don't think it's a BAD DEAL, but I want a vise that's going to last over the long haul and is comfortable to tie on. DynaKing products are quite possibly the finest made on the market, they pay close attention to the details and really offer the best customer service going. the Trekker Jr. has a very smooth shank and allows a nice resting place for your "off hand" while tying, not as nice as the flat area of a Regal, but nice. there's a lot of room around the back of the jaws for tailing and I don't know of too many vises that have a more positive jaw locking system... Rn Abby has done a great job with the draw collet. The base it comes with weighs almost 5 pounds, and if you use it in a tabletop tying table (one of the oak ones with a vise holding arm) then you have an extra base for your non-rotary vise as well. I'm not a big "rotary guy" I like the feature for any flies tied in the round, or application of some materials, but I still go back to my Regal for the majority of my tying. I've been tying for almost 40 years, and over the past 5-6 I've been drawn to trying a rotary... I've tried the various models of the Renzetti, a few DynaKings, the DanVise, the NorVise and the Waldron LAW Vise... if money was no object, I'd have bought the LAW... it's a FANTASTIC piece of workmanship... but I have kids to put through college =) I liked the top end Renzetti and DynaKings, but knew the vise would receive less use than my fixed jaw, 360 degree rotational Regal over all... so I went with the best made, most comfortable vise for under $200. I spoke to 3 people who had tied on the Peak, long-time tyers whose opinions I respect, and based on some of their comments, and because I could afford the extra $50, I decided to go with the DynaKing Barracuda Trekker Jr. YMMV.... Larry |
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While some vendors may be discounting it, the Dyna-King Trekker is squarely
in the over $200.00 vise category ($209.00 retail); thus, it was not included in the list. |
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Peak Vise
One more import thing that I forgot to mention is that the Peak Vise is
ambidextrous. As a left-handed tyer, nothing ****es me off more than having to deal with a "handed" vise. As most people in the U.S. are right-handed, "handed" usually means "right-handed." If at all possible, I never deal with a company that sells "handed" equipment --even if they sell a "left-handed" version (i.e., "left-handed" equipment is hard to resell). |
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