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Christmas pressies for fisherman?
"Rachael Reynolds" wrote in message ... Any thoughts on what a fisherman who probably has everything already might like for Christmas? Up to about £100 would be good! Thanks Rachael How about a really stonking swiss army knife I never leave home without one (eat your heart out Alan Whicker) seriously once you have owned one its difficult to remember why you hadn't bought one before, Vicky bought me a deluxe one last christmas and we both carry the small keyring models Derek --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.789 / Virus Database: 534 - Release Date: 07/11/2004 |
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Christmas pressies for fisherman?
"Rachael Reynolds" wrote in message ... Any thoughts on what a fisherman who probably has everything already might like for Christmas? Up to about £100 would be good! Thanks Rachael How about a really stonking swiss army knife I never leave home without one (eat your heart out Alan Whicker) seriously once you have owned one its difficult to remember why you hadn't bought one before, Vicky bought me a deluxe one last christmas and we both carry the small keyring models Derek --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.789 / Virus Database: 534 - Release Date: 07/11/2004 |
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Christmas pressies for fisherman?
"Derek" wrote in message ... "Rachael Reynolds" wrote in message ... Any thoughts on what a fisherman who probably has everything already might like for Christmas? Up to about £100 would be good! Thanks Rachael How about a really stonking swiss army knife I never leave home without one (eat your heart out Alan Whicker) seriously once you have owned one its difficult to remember why you hadn't bought one before, Vicky bought me a deluxe one last christmas and we both carry the small keyring models Derek if I was to carry a pocket knife in Ayr I would be arrested for carrying an offensive weapon.... No Knives - Zero Tolerence... shame about the world we live in today !!! |
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Christmas pressies for fisherman?
"Derek" wrote in message ... "Rachael Reynolds" wrote in message ... Any thoughts on what a fisherman who probably has everything already might like for Christmas? Up to about £100 would be good! Thanks Rachael How about a really stonking swiss army knife I never leave home without one (eat your heart out Alan Whicker) seriously once you have owned one its difficult to remember why you hadn't bought one before, Vicky bought me a deluxe one last christmas and we both carry the small keyring models Derek if I was to carry a pocket knife in Ayr I would be arrested for carrying an offensive weapon.... No Knives - Zero Tolerence... shame about the world we live in today !!! |
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"Derek" wrote in message ... if I was to carry a pocket knife in Ayr I would be arrested for carrying an offensive weapon.... No Knives - Zero Tolerence... shame about the world we live in today !!! I find this rather worrying as I intend to visit Scotland next year fishing and will have a knife (or two) in my possession. Does this mean that I will be at risk of arrest as soon as I cross the Scottish border or only when I reach the Ayr region? Needless to say I have searched on Google and can find no specific change in the law relating to Scotland. I will be pleased if you will supply a reference. Regards GasMan |
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ali-p wrote:
"Derek" wrote in message ... if I was to carry a pocket knife in Ayr I would be arrested for carrying an offensive weapon.... No Knives - Zero Tolerence... shame about the world we live in today !!! I find this rather worrying as I intend to visit Scotland next year fishing and will have a knife (or two) in my possession. Does this mean that I will be at risk of arrest as soon as I cross the Scottish border or only when I reach the Ayr region? Needless to say I have searched on Google and can find no specific change in the law relating to Scotland. I will be pleased if you will supply a reference. Regards GasMan |
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"GasMan" wrote in message ... ali-p wrote: "Derek" wrote in message ... if I was to carry a pocket knife in Ayr I would be arrested for carrying an offensive weapon.... No Knives - Zero Tolerence... shame about the world we live in today !!! I find this rather worrying as I intend to visit Scotland next year fishing and will have a knife (or two) in my possession. Does this mean that I will be at risk of arrest as soon as I cross the Scottish border or only when I reach the Ayr region? Needless to say I have searched on Google and can find no specific change in the law relating to Scotland. I will be pleased if you will supply a reference. Regards GasMan being an ex matelot, where knives were the tools of my trade, I quite often flaunt this Strathclyde Police decision of zero tolerance with knives, on the understanding that I will do no wrong and therefor wont we stopped and searched by the police. I am sure that if the knives are kept within a tackle bag and not on display and not being waved around with the cry of "C'mon ya Bassas", you should be ok in your visit to Scotland. ali-p |
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ali-p wrote:
"GasMan" wrote in message ... ali-p wrote: "Derek" wrote in message ... if I was to carry a pocket knife in Ayr I would be arrested for carrying an offensive weapon.... No Knives - Zero Tolerence... shame about the world we live in today !!! I find this rather worrying as I intend to visit Scotland next year fishing and will have a knife (or two) in my possession. Does this mean that I will be at risk of arrest as soon as I cross the Scottish border or only when I reach the Ayr region? Needless to say I have searched on Google and can find no specific change in the law relating to Scotland. I will be pleased if you will supply a reference. Regards GasMan being an ex matelot, where knives were the tools of my trade, I quite often flaunt this Strathclyde Police decision of zero tolerance with knives, on the understanding that I will do no wrong and therefor wont we stopped and searched by the police. I am sure that if the knives are kept within a tackle bag and not on display and not being waved around with the cry of "C'mon ya Bassas", you should be ok in your visit to Scotland. ali-p Ali I appreciate the reply - my response was basically an attack on the undermining of civil liberties. We regularly here about zero-tolerance for this, that and thee other but rarely does it seem to be based on the law. My understanding of the carrying of an offensive weapon eg a knife is that there are two classes of offensive weapon ie a sword stick or some other type of 'weapon' are an offensive weapon per se. However a kitchen knife, lino knife or chefs knife etc (what the man on the Clapham Omnibus would describe as tools) and hence have to be proven to be intended to be used as an offensive weapon IYSWIM. IANAL but did, several years ago sit as a jury member on such a case. In our case the brief tried to get his man off the O W charge as he was a carpet fitter and it was a tool of his trade - at 11.00 pm outside a pub? Therefore my belief is that they (the police) have no right to confiscate(steal) someone elses property unless it is clearly stated in the relevant Act of Parliament that they are allowed to do so. GasMan |
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ali-p wrote:
"GasMan" wrote in message ... ali-p wrote: "Derek" wrote in message ... if I was to carry a pocket knife in Ayr I would be arrested for carrying an offensive weapon.... No Knives - Zero Tolerence... shame about the world we live in today !!! I find this rather worrying as I intend to visit Scotland next year fishing and will have a knife (or two) in my possession. Does this mean that I will be at risk of arrest as soon as I cross the Scottish border or only when I reach the Ayr region? Needless to say I have searched on Google and can find no specific change in the law relating to Scotland. I will be pleased if you will supply a reference. Regards GasMan being an ex matelot, where knives were the tools of my trade, I quite often flaunt this Strathclyde Police decision of zero tolerance with knives, on the understanding that I will do no wrong and therefor wont we stopped and searched by the police. I am sure that if the knives are kept within a tackle bag and not on display and not being waved around with the cry of "C'mon ya Bassas", you should be ok in your visit to Scotland. ali-p Ali I appreciate the reply - my response was basically an attack on the undermining of civil liberties. We regularly here about zero-tolerance for this, that and thee other but rarely does it seem to be based on the law. My understanding of the carrying of an offensive weapon eg a knife is that there are two classes of offensive weapon ie a sword stick or some other type of 'weapon' are an offensive weapon per se. However a kitchen knife, lino knife or chefs knife etc (what the man on the Clapham Omnibus would describe as tools) and hence have to be proven to be intended to be used as an offensive weapon IYSWIM. IANAL but did, several years ago sit as a jury member on such a case. In our case the brief tried to get his man off the O W charge as he was a carpet fitter and it was a tool of his trade - at 11.00 pm outside a pub? Therefore my belief is that they (the police) have no right to confiscate(steal) someone elses property unless it is clearly stated in the relevant Act of Parliament that they are allowed to do so. GasMan |
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Christmas pressies for fisherman?
In article , W. D. Grey
wrote: A youngster going to a disco carrying a 10 inch chef's knife isn't carrying it to trim his finger nails! Though it gets complicated when a young chef carrying his knife-roll home after serving a dinner-dance at the Town Hall drops into his local for a well deserved pint before they close... I suppose John Major's initiative banning articles that had no-other use than as weapons but not those which have any legitimate use is about as far as you can safely go with black and white lawmaking. Cheerio, -- |
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