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Tiagra 30 or 50
I'm planning on chasing some marlin and am trying to choose what 80#
setup to get. I've narrowed it down to a toss-up between the Tiagra 30WLRS or the 50WLRS. I'll be stand-up fishing so am leaning towards the smaller reel, but I'm wondering if anybody has used one of these in anger yet - as I understand they're reasonably new on the market. From the specs for the 30W, I gather I should be able to load 800yds of 80lb braid on it with somewhere in the region of a 100yd topshot of 80lb mono. As the strike drag on the 30WLRS is capable of 12.5kg (27.5lb) while maintaining freespool, it seems like it should fit the bill (pun unintended). Any views? |
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Tiagra 30 or 50
"Rob2" wrote in message . au...
I'm planning on chasing some marlin and am trying to choose what 80# setup to get. I've narrowed it down to a toss-up between the Tiagra 30WLRS or the 50WLRS. I'll be stand-up fishing so am leaning towards the smaller reel, but I'm wondering if anybody has used one of these in anger yet - as I understand they're reasonably new on the market. From the specs for the 30W, I gather I should be able to load 800yds of 80lb braid on it with somewhere in the region of a 100yd topshot of 80lb mono. As the strike drag on the 30WLRS is capable of 12.5kg (27.5lb) while maintaining freespool, it seems like it should fit the bill (pun unintended). Any views? First off, what kind, and how big, are the marlin you plan on chasing? If their larger fish, go with the larger reel, a good size marlin can dump a lot of line in a hurry. The larger reels tend to have larger, or multiple, drag washers. This will help keep the drag from getting real hot, at which point the drags often fail. As far as brand, in larger reels, their's only one choice, Penn. The problem with ALL the other manufacturers is that they only stock parts for just so many years. After that, your out of luck. I am friends with a guy that own's a very well known large shop that does "factory" service on the all the major brands. He admitts that any brand other than Penn is going to be a problem getting parts for once the reel is discontinued. And at the price your going to pay for this kind of reel do you really want to make a paper weight out of it six or eight years from now? I've got a five gallon bucket full of older non Penn reels that all need a part (I bought them when I was younger), that can't be gotten anywhere. I keep them around to remind me not to make the same mistake again. My old Internationals are around twenty years old, my old 4/0 my Dad bought 35 years ago, used, no problem if I need parts, try that with any of the Japaneese brands. If you need a good larger reel, but can't decide between a 50 or 80, go with the new Penn 70, great reel. Buy Penn, and you won't be sorry. Buy one of the other brands, you'll be sorry. |
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"John" wrote in message om... First off, what kind, and how big, are the marlin you plan on chasing? If their larger fish, go with the larger reel, a good size marlin can dump a lot of line in a hurry. The larger reels tend to have larger, or multiple, drag washers. This will help keep the drag from getting real hot, at which point the drags often fail. Marlin over 1,000lb are occasionally caught there, but about half that size is more common apparently. We've fished there a few times for sailfish, spanish mackeral, etc, but have only raised a marlin once, which we failed to hook - which was probably just as well, as we were only using 15kg gear. On our next trip we plan on getting a bit more serious and getting out wider. That's a good point about the heat from the drag - hadn't thought of that. Sounds like a good reason to go for the bigger reel. As far as brand, in larger reels, their's only one choice, Penn. The problem with ALL the other manufacturers is that they only stock parts for just so many years. After that, your out of luck. I was leaning towards the Tiagras as I've been a satisfied Shimano man for many years (TLD15, 25 & 30). Here in Western Australia the Tiagras are more common than the Internationals and those in the know that I've spoken to say that parts for them aren't a problem. I might have a second look at the Penns tho. Regarding line - if I get the 50W I might go for dacron instead of braid. I'm still a bit uneasy about the join to the top-shot however. I've read a few articles which say that a bimini in both lines with just a loop to loop connection in the middle is the go, which sounds fine if using mono of a higher test than the braid (eg - a leader). But if using braid or dacron of the same test as the mono I would have thought the braided line would cut into the mono and be a weak point. Likewise the 'braid leader knot' seems to be suited to joining heavy mono to the braid, but not necessarily similar test lines. What join do you guys use? Rob |
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Rob2 wrote:
Likewise the 'braid leader knot' seems to be suited to joining heavy mono to the braid, but not necessarily similar test lines. What join do you guys use? Rob I have never fished for Marlin, but when I go after big sharks, I use a double nail knot between the braid and Mono,, so far it has never failed me -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks , Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long Shot rig and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2004 20:36:37 +0800, "Rob2" wrote:
~~ snippage ~~ Regarding line - if I get the 50W I might go for dacron instead of braid. I'm still a bit uneasy about the join to the top-shot however. I've read a few articles which say that a bimini in both lines with just a loop to loop connection in the middle is the go, which sounds fine if using mono of a higher test than the braid (eg - a leader). But if using braid or dacron of the same test as the mono I would have thought the braided line would cut into the mono and be a weak point. Likewise the 'braid leader knot' seems to be suited to joining heavy mono to the braid, but not necessarily similar test lines. What join do you guys use? I've had success with a knot called a Seizing Bend (can't find an example on the net) and I also use a double nail. Later, Tom S. Woodstock, CT ---------- "Fisherman are born honest, but they get over it." - Ed Zern |
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