Does anyone tie or use tube flies?

"Padishar Creel" wrote:
I have been into tube flies for a while now and I haven't seen many
posts
about tube flies. Anyone have some favorite patterns, hints on their
use,
or experiences to share?

Chris

Interesting you'd bring this up now. I'm in the process of tying some
giant dahlberg divers and mudlers on tubes for pike. I use the tubes
from Q-tips, and like the way they work. One of the problems I've run
into is short strikes, and I think I'm going to try moving the hook
further back in the fly just by putting an empty tube between the fly
and the hook.

I think I posted pictures of these flies a year ago, I tie them as
large as I can with the longest deer hair I can find by tying in near
the tips instead of in the middle. The resulting flies are just over 2
inches in diameter, and they really bring the big pike to the surface.

I use large Octopus hooks instead of the usual long shank hooks because
I think they get better hookups, and because they weigh less than the
hook I'd need to tie these monsters in the usual way.

Chas
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Chas, I too use q-tips as well and some hobby tubing (I can make them longer
that way if I use the hobby tubing). The Octopus hooks are exactly what I
have been using. I notice when I get a strike, the offset hook tends to
release the tube better and the toothy devils don't eat up my flies as
quickly. For the hookkeeper, I have found fuel line for hobby gas engines
to be ideal (I used to use the material mentioned in the tube fly manual but
you had to boil it to shrink it around the shank of the hook, with fuel line
you don't have to). Also, I pack a bobbin threader, when on the water, to
assist me in getting the leader thru the tube. I use the Palomar knot --
it gives it more bulk in the hook keeper (all this IMHO, of course).

Chris






"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Padishar Creel" wrote:
I have been into tube flies for a while now and I haven't seen many
posts
about tube flies. Anyone have some favorite patterns, hints on their
use,
or experiences to share?

Chris

Interesting you'd bring this up now. I'm in the process of tying some
giant dahlberg divers and mudlers on tubes for pike. I use the tubes
from Q-tips, and like the way they work. One of the problems I've run
into is short strikes, and I think I'm going to try moving the hook
further back in the fly just by putting an empty tube between the fly
and the hook.

I think I posted pictures of these flies a year ago, I tie them as
large as I can with the longest deer hair I can find by tying in near
the tips instead of in the middle. The resulting flies are just over 2
inches in diameter, and they really bring the big pike to the surface.

I use large Octopus hooks instead of the usual long shank hooks because
I think they get better hookups, and because they weigh less than the
hook I'd need to tie these monsters in the usual way.

Chas
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http://home.comcast.net/~chasepike/wsb/index.html

Most of my early season trolling is done with tube flies. Have a look at
some of my favorite patterns here--
http://southshoreflyfishing.com/tubes.html

--
Regards,
Jamie 8^)
http://SouthShoreFlyFishing.Com



"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
...
Chas, I too use q-tips as well and some hobby tubing (I can make them
longer
that way if I use the hobby tubing). The Octopus hooks are exactly what I
have been using. I notice when I get a strike, the offset hook tends to
release the tube better and the toothy devils don't eat up my flies as
quickly. For the hookkeeper, I have found fuel line for hobby gas engines
to be ideal (I used to use the material mentioned in the tube fly manual
but
you had to boil it to shrink it around the shank of the hook, with fuel
line
you don't have to). Also, I pack a bobbin threader, when on the water, to
assist me in getting the leader thru the tube. I use the Palomar knot --
it gives it more bulk in the hook keeper (all this IMHO, of course).

Chris






"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Padishar Creel" wrote:
I have been into tube flies for a while now and I haven't seen many
posts
about tube flies. Anyone have some favorite patterns, hints on their
use,
or experiences to share?

Chris

Interesting you'd bring this up now. I'm in the process of tying some
giant dahlberg divers and mudlers on tubes for pike. I use the tubes
from Q-tips, and like the way they work. One of the problems I've run
into is short strikes, and I think I'm going to try moving the hook
further back in the fly just by putting an empty tube between the fly
and the hook.

I think I posted pictures of these flies a year ago, I tie them as
large as I can with the longest deer hair I can find by tying in near
the tips instead of in the middle. The resulting flies are just over 2
inches in diameter, and they really bring the big pike to the surface.

I use large Octopus hooks instead of the usual long shank hooks because
I think they get better hookups, and because they weigh less than the
hook I'd need to tie these monsters in the usual way.

Chas
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http://home.comcast.net/~chasepike/wsb/index.html

I see that you dress the hook as well. I haven't done that and I can see it
makes a much nicer fly. Thanks for your response, you have some nice
patterns on your website.

Chris

"Jamie Heim" wrote in message
...
Most of my early season trolling is done with tube flies. Have a look at
some of my favorite patterns here--
http://southshoreflyfishing.com/tubes.html

--
Regards,
Jamie 8^)
http://SouthShoreFlyFishing.Com



"Padishar Creel" wrote in message
...
Chas, I too use q-tips as well and some hobby tubing (I can make them
longer
that way if I use the hobby tubing). The Octopus hooks are exactly what
I
have been using. I notice when I get a strike, the offset hook tends to
release the tube better and the toothy devils don't eat up my flies as
quickly. For the hookkeeper, I have found fuel line for hobby gas
engines
to be ideal (I used to use the material mentioned in the tube fly manual
but
you had to boil it to shrink it around the shank of the hook, with fuel
line
you don't have to). Also, I pack a bobbin threader, when on the water,
to
assist me in getting the leader thru the tube. I use the Palomar
knot --
it gives it more bulk in the hook keeper (all this IMHO, of course).

Chris






"Chas Wade" wrote in message
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"Padishar Creel" wrote:
I have been into tube flies for a while now and I haven't seen many
posts
about tube flies. Anyone have some favorite patterns, hints on their
use,
or experiences to share?

Chris

Interesting you'd bring this up now. I'm in the process of tying some
giant dahlberg divers and mudlers on tubes for pike. I use the tubes
from Q-tips, and like the way they work. One of the problems I've run
into is short strikes, and I think I'm going to try moving the hook
further back in the fly just by putting an empty tube between the fly
and the hook.

I think I posted pictures of these flies a year ago, I tie them as
large as I can with the longest deer hair I can find by tying in near
the tips instead of in the middle. The resulting flies are just over
2
inches in diameter, and they really bring the big pike to the surface.

I use large Octopus hooks instead of the usual long shank hooks
because
I think they get better hookups, and because they weigh less than the
hook I'd need to tie these monsters in the usual way.

Chas
remove fly fish to reply
http://home.comcast.net/~chas.wade/w...ome.html-.html
San Juan Pictures at:
http://home.comcast.net/~chasepike/wsb/index.html

Tube flies are very popular for steelhead and Atlantic salmon fishing where
larger flies are used. The only pattern that I have considered for trout
are wooly buggers. Over the years there have been lots of discussions of
patterns, tubes, and flies on the Spey Clave
(http://www.flyfishingforum.com/speyclave/) You can do a search on their
archives and pull up a lot of patterns and discussions.
I have gotten away from Q-tips because they are not permanent enough. A few
large fish or a lot of casts will tear them up. HMG markets some tubes in
plastic, aluminum and brass that will give you a long lasting fly. Hobby
shops also have good materials for tubes. The sphagetti tubing tht you can
get from auto parts shops is great for 1/8" tubes.

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or experiences to share?

Chris




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Padishar Creel wrote:

I have been into tube flies for a while now and I haven't seen many posts
about tube flies. Anyone have some favorite patterns, hints on their use,
or experiences to share?

Chris



I used tube flies as an experiment for perch and zander last year, the
big advantage seems to be that you can eliminate short strikes by moving
the hook towards the tail-end of the streamer. I tie them on q-tips, and
use a small piece of tubing to secure the hook.
An example is he http://home.planet.nl/~nijla141/tubefly.jpg

--
Herman

On Fri, 14 May 2004 19:12:31 -0700, "Sierra fisher"
wrote:

Tube flies are very popular for steelhead and Atlantic salmon fishing where
larger flies are used. The only pattern that I have considered for trout
are wooly buggers. Over the years there have been lots of discussions of
patterns, tubes, and flies on the Spey Clave
(http://www.flyfishingforum.com/speyclave/) You can do a search on their
archives and pull up a lot of patterns and discussions.
I have gotten away from Q-tips because they are not permanent enough. A few
large fish or a lot of casts will tear them up. HMG markets some tubes in
plastic, aluminum and brass that will give you a long lasting fly. Hobby
shops also have good materials for tubes. The sphagetti tubing tht you can
get from auto parts shops is great for 1/8" tubes.


R/C model aircraft stores are the best for buying tubes as you get all
of the same stuff as you would from a fly tying materials supplier,
but at a fracton of the cost. Get a pushrod tube if you want a more
robust plastic tube. They sell it in 3' and 4' lengths, plus they
sell brass and aluminum tubing in 3' lengths as well. Q-tips work
great as the liner for 1/8" metal tubes.

One other trick. When tying a fly that you wish to have ride in one
postion (wing up like a streamer) cut a thin strip of adhesive lead
tape and stick it along one side of the tube. That side becomes the
bottom side of the fly. Some wing materials are not buoyant and the
fly can ride on its side if the lead isn't used.

Peter

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"Padishar Creel" wrote in message ...
I have been into tube flies for a while now and I haven't seen many posts
about tube flies. Anyone have some favorite patterns, hints on their use,
or experiences to share?

Chris

I use the same 18 guage thinwall Teflon tubing I bought for dispensing
Super glue...to make tube flies as well.
http://montana-riverboats.com/static.../3-step_3.html


http://montana-riverboats.com/static...elly_Fish.html
http://montana-riverboats.com/static...Reprobait.html
http://montana-riverboats.com/static...it/5-done.html

http://montana-riverboats.com/static...rom_front.html
http://montana-riverboats.com/static...lifornica.html
http://montana-riverboats.com/static...er/9-done.html
http://montana-riverboats.com/static...s/Pmd/Pmd.html

Herman Nijland wrote:
I used tube flies as an experiment for perch and zander last year, the
big advantage seems to be that you can eliminate short strikes by
moving
the hook towards the tail-end of the streamer. I tie them on q-tips,
and
use a small piece of tubing to secure the hook.
An example is he http://home.planet.nl/~nijla141/tubefly.jpg


That's a nice fly Herman. I'm thinking about an 8 inch long version
for pike.

Thanks,

Chas
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In article , Sierra fisher
writes
HMG markets some tubes in
plastic, aluminum and brass that will give you a long lasting fly. Hobby
shops also have good materials for tubes. The sphagetti tubing tht you can
get from auto parts shops is great for 1/8" tubes.

Try using the plastic tube used in the production of cotton-wool buds.
After removing the cotton wool, bell the ends with a hot wire. These
little tubes make excellent tube fly bodies.

They must be cheaper than purpose made tubes for flies.
--
Bill Grey
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