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"Pat_RI" wrote in message news:MpQJd.63887$Tf5.48042@lakeread03... Yeah I guess I shouldn't make conclusions if I have never tried it. I tend to use shorter rods my largest is a 6'6" Avid but I use it for worms and jigging. I usually stick to rods closer to 6 foot. I guess it is just a matter of practice. Might just be inertia in action. After all, what did most of our daddy's and granddaddy's use and have available? My grandfather considered a 6 footer to be to long for most applications (Walleye and Northern), just a specialty rod length for a very precise set of circumstances. And back when I was just a fingerling, my dad thought the same way about the 6 1/2 footers! Though he now has a decent selection of rods 7'+ that I can purloin when we are fishing together. As SimRacer pointed out, there just might be good cause to consider a rod in the 6' to 6'6" range for pinpoint casting "under" obstructions. But I have to go along with Steve here and recommend the 7' rods as this length does have many benefits, most connected to leverage both in casting (remembering that spinnerbaits put up a lot of air drag), retrieving and (most importantly :-) fighting that big ol' Hawg! With that said, I have to add that I do not even own a 7'+ (see note above!), and I do very little fishing with spinnerbaits. Just tie one on to whatever rod I have with and give them a try. Usually something in the 6'3"-6'6" range. Bob Who is wearing the ink off the pages of his BassPro catalogue while waiting for the ice to go out in Wisconsin :-D |
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"Pat_RI" wrote in message news:FtRJd.63893$Tf5.30837@lakeread03... I have tried the pistol grip but did not like the hook set when using it. It is in my garage somewhere catching dust. I only used it a few times but didn't really like it. Thanks for the advice though much appreciated. "SimRacer" wrote in message . com... "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:mGOJd.63879$Tf5.61805@lakeread03... I just purchased a curado reel and I am looking to team it with a rod to throw spinnerbaits. I am looking to spend up to 125.00 for a rod to go with it. Any recommendations? Steve has already given you the bulk of the advice I would've given you (and IMO, is a ton more credible than I anyway) but think about this too: Was watching an older Hank Parker Outdoors episode a few nights ago and he, like me, also favors keeping a shorter pistol grip casting rod in the boat for casting spinnerbaits with. You can do that "roll cast" type low slung cast with these short (and often more limber) rods and skip them under brush, docks, what have you. In other words a more low trajectory cast, that litteraly skins across or just above the water. Granted, he gave this schpeel while at Lake El Salto, and said in THAT case, go with longer (6.5-7-7.5) casting rods for their leverage, and that's what is needed in heavy cover/submerged cover like El Salto apparently has an abundance of. So it depends on what applications you have in mind for it, but you may want to consider a pistol grip, shorter rod in addition to the trigger sticks that Steve pointed you to (as I think they're great rods also). I currently only have one pistol grip in my collection, but it is fairly nice, and I recommend it highly to anyone not making a living catching fish...here it is @ Cabelas, you may find it other places as well: http://tinyurl.com/5mw28 It is the top one in the list, model GC56M - $99.95 list price. Randy Pringle, local guide and pro always has pistol grip rod rigged and handy. He says is the one he uses to get under low docks and low hanging trees. The side arm low to the water cast. Bill |
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My experience with spinnerbaits is that most casts are fairly short and
require pretty good accuracy since I am normally casting to visible cover. For that reason, I have never used anything longer than 6 feet and prefer short handles. I can make repeated underhand or roll casts and cover a lot of territory. Dick Durbin Tallahassee |
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On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:57:39 -0600, "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers"
wrote: "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:G2PJd.63882$Tf5.45394@lakeread03... What are the benefits of using the 7 foot rod over the others? I like the way 7 foot rods cast, if I want to cover a lot of water in a hurry, I can really launch a spinnerbait waaaaay out there. I also believe that because the "swing radius" is larger, that you're moving more line on a hookset, thus getting better hooksets. I also like the way I can control a fish on a longer rod. But much of this is subjective and personal preference/beliefs. That's why I gave you three to choose from. Head to your closest St. Croix dealer and check them out for yourself. YOU decide which on you prefer, afterall, you're footing the bill. I am also of the 7' spinnerbait rod school. Distance, leverage, fish control; and as for accuracy in tight, over, under or through cover, simply pitching or skip-pitching will get you right where you want to be. Also a rod like the one Steve described (and built for me *shameless plug*) is phenomenal for ripping a spinnerbit through some of the weediest cover that a less stout rod would have trouble with. Harry J aka Thundercat Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team http://www.brooklynbillstackleshop.com Share the knowledge, compete on execution. |
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"Pat_RI" wrote in message news:FtRJd.63893$Tf5.30837@lakeread03... I have tried the pistol grip but did not like the hook set when using it. It is in my garage somewhere catching dust. I only used it a few times but didn't really like it. Thanks for the advice though much appreciated. Cool then. I just grew up on pistol gripped roads, so keeping one around now is both useful and nostalgic. Thought it was both cool and somewhat supportive of my train of thought on them when a guy like Hank Parker kinda sees that rod-type, and its use(s), the same way I do. Then again, he and I are both North Carolinians, so maybe it's a regional thing... I don't think you can go wrong with any of Steve's suggestions, and G. Loomis also makes some nice rods, non-pistol grip style, that they even bill as "spinnerbait" rods. If you still are stumped in a little bit, look into custom rods, I ordered my very first "custom" rod a couple of weeks ago at the annual boat and fishing show here in Raleigh. Then you can get the length, weight, action, finish, blank makeup, guides and so on, that "you" want, exactly and not "close enough". And I also found talking to the actual rodmaker to be an invaluable resource about what to look for in regard to the various bait usage and casting styles. Here's the fella I ordered mine from: http://www.custombassrods.com/ IIRC, he has a "spinnerbait" rod as well. Nice folks, as are most rodmakers if I had to guess. If you've got $200+ to put into one, I'd at least look at customs too, just for the knowledge of "what a rod really is" if nothing else. Opened my eyes up, that's for sure. "SimRacer" wrote in message . com... "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:mGOJd.63879$Tf5.61805@lakeread03... I just purchased a curado reel and I am looking to team it with a rod to throw spinnerbaits. I am looking to spend up to 125.00 for a rod to go with it. Any recommendations? Steve has already given you the bulk of the advice I would've given you (and IMO, is a ton more credible than I anyway) but think about this too: Was watching an older Hank Parker Outdoors episode a few nights ago and he, like me, also favors keeping a shorter pistol grip casting rod in the boat for casting spinnerbaits with. You can do that "roll cast" type low slung cast with these short (and often more limber) rods and skip them under brush, docks, what have you. In other words a more low trajectory cast, that litteraly skins across or just above the water. Granted, he gave this schpeel while at Lake El Salto, and said in THAT case, go with longer (6.5-7-7.5) casting rods for their leverage, and that's what is needed in heavy cover/submerged cover like El Salto apparently has an abundance of. So it depends on what applications you have in mind for it, but you may want to consider a pistol grip, shorter rod in addition to the trigger sticks that Steve pointed you to (as I think they're great rods also). I currently only have one pistol grip in my collection, but it is fairly nice, and I recommend it highly to anyone not making a living catching fish...here it is @ Cabelas, you may find it other places as well: http://tinyurl.com/5mw28 It is the top one in the list, model GC56M - $99.95 list price. |
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"SimRacer" wrote in messageSNIP That was what Hank was describing during his show if I took it correctly, he simlpy called it a "roll cast" meaning to him that you roll your wrist and fire the lure just above water height, straight under any cover. Works for me. With a little practice, you can do the same thing with a longer rod. I do this all the time with my 7'10" and get lures up underneath docks and overhanging branches. A pistol grip or short handled rod wears me out. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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What in the world is a "spinnerbait rod?" Our conpany alone has three sizes
of spinnerbaits on the market as we speak (3/16 oz., 3/8 oz. and 1/2 oz.). We have finished designs and finished molds for three more sizes (1/8 oz., 5/8 oz. and 7/8 oz.), and some of them may hit the market later this year. All of these could be called "Bass" lures. We also have finished, working prototypes a 1-1/2 oz. spinnerbair primarily intended for use on Musky & big Northern Pike. Some patterns & configurations are intended for shallow use, some deep, some fast, some slow, blah, blah, blah. At one time or another, every rod I owned except my fly rods have been properly used for spinnerbaits, from 5-1/2' light spinning rods to 6-1/2' heavy worm rods to 7' glass-tipped cranking rods to 7-1/2' flipping sticks. Again, what in the world is a spinnerbait rod? -- Bob Rickard (AKA Dr. Spinnerbait) www.secretweaponlures.com --------------------------=x O'))) "SimRacer" wrote in message . com... "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:FtRJd.63893$Tf5.30837@lakeread03... I have tried the pistol grip but did not like the hook set when using it. It is in my garage somewhere catching dust. I only used it a few times but didn't really like it. Thanks for the advice though much appreciated. Cool then. I just grew up on pistol gripped roads, so keeping one around now is both useful and nostalgic. Thought it was both cool and somewhat supportive of my train of thought on them when a guy like Hank Parker kinda sees that rod-type, and its use(s), the same way I do. Then again, he and I are both North Carolinians, so maybe it's a regional thing... I don't think you can go wrong with any of Steve's suggestions, and G. Loomis also makes some nice rods, non-pistol grip style, that they even bill as "spinnerbait" rods. If you still are stumped in a little bit, look into custom rods, I ordered my very first "custom" rod a couple of weeks ago at the annual boat and fishing show here in Raleigh. Then you can get the length, weight, action, finish, blank makeup, guides and so on, that "you" want, exactly and not "close enough". And I also found talking to the actual rodmaker to be an invaluable resource about what to look for in regard to the various bait usage and casting styles. Here's the fella I ordered mine from: http://www.custombassrods.com/ IIRC, he has a "spinnerbait" rod as well. Nice folks, as are most rodmakers if I had to guess. If you've got $200+ to put into one, I'd at least look at customs too, just for the knowledge of "what a rod really is" if nothing else. Opened my eyes up, that's for sure. "SimRacer" wrote in message . com... "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:mGOJd.63879$Tf5.61805@lakeread03... I just purchased a curado reel and I am looking to team it with a rod to throw spinnerbaits. I am looking to spend up to 125.00 for a rod to go with it. Any recommendations? Steve has already given you the bulk of the advice I would've given you (and IMO, is a ton more credible than I anyway) but think about this too: Was watching an older Hank Parker Outdoors episode a few nights ago and he, like me, also favors keeping a shorter pistol grip casting rod in the boat for casting spinnerbaits with. You can do that "roll cast" type low slung cast with these short (and often more limber) rods and skip them under brush, docks, what have you. In other words a more low trajectory cast, that litteraly skins across or just above the water. Granted, he gave this schpeel while at Lake El Salto, and said in THAT case, go with longer (6.5-7-7.5) casting rods for their leverage, and that's what is needed in heavy cover/submerged cover like El Salto apparently has an abundance of. So it depends on what applications you have in mind for it, but you may want to consider a pistol grip, shorter rod in addition to the trigger sticks that Steve pointed you to (as I think they're great rods also). I currently only have one pistol grip in my collection, but it is fairly nice, and I recommend it highly to anyone not making a living catching fish...here it is @ Cabelas, you may find it other places as well: http://tinyurl.com/5mw28 It is the top one in the list, model GC56M - $99.95 list price. |
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I have three rods for most of my spinnerbiat fishing.
7' Esox BG for covering water with long casts 6'6" Esox BN for more target type fishing and shorter casts 5'6" Esox CE for accurate, short casting situations All of these blanks are rated MH power, Fast action, rated for 10-17 lb. line and and 5/16 - 3/4 oz. baits. Most of my fishing is 1/4oz. through 1/2 oz. baits and all three rods do the job nicely. For little baits under 1/4 oz., I will drop down to a lighter action 6'6" Medium Esox BQ. For big baits, like the hefty 1 1/2 oz. or bigger baits (they do cover deep water really well) , I will step up to a 7'6" Esox BI, which is usually my Crig rod. If you're going to stay in the 1/4oz. to 1/2oz. range, you will probably do well with a 6'6" MH power/Fast Action rod. Just watch when you compare rods. One manufacturer's MH may be another company's Medium. Good luck! Brad Coovert 2005 Tournament Director, Greenfield Bassmasters www.greenfieldbassmasters.com Esox Rods - Handmade In The USA "For The Toughest Fishing Out There!" |
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I can attest to the fact that the Avid's are outstanding production made
rods. I own about 5 of them in 7' Med.. "Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers" wrote in message ... "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:mGOJd.63879$Tf5.61805@lakeread03... I just purchased a curado reel and I am looking to team it with a rod to throw spinnerbaits. I am looking to spend up to 125.00 for a rod to go with it. Any recommendations? I like to use 7 foot (or longer) rods for most of my fishing, but some people don't. In your price range you might want to consider looking at the St. Croix Avid series of rods. While slightly higher than your budget, I feel for a factory rod, these are pretty darned good. There's three of them you might want to check out and pick from. AC66MF - 6'6" medium power, fast action line 10-17 lures 1/4-3/4 AC69MLXF - 6'9" medium light power, extra fast action line 12-25 lures 1/8-1/2 AC70MHXF - 7' medium heavy power, extra fast action line 10-17 lures 1/4-3/4 The last is very similar to what I use for my spinnerbaiting and it's a great rod to match with a Curado. -- Steve @ OutdoorFrontiers http://www.outdoorfrontiers.com G & S Guide Service and Custom Rods http://www.herefishyfishy.com |
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"Bob Rickard" wrote in message . com... What in the world is a "spinnerbait rod?" Our conpany alone has three sizes of spinnerbaits on the market as we speak (3/16 oz., 3/8 oz. and 1/2 oz.). We have finished designs and finished molds for three more sizes (1/8 oz., 5/8 oz. and 7/8 oz.), and some of them may hit the market later this year. All of these could be called "Bass" lures. We also have finished, working prototypes a 1-1/2 oz. spinnerbair primarily intended for use on Musky & big Northern Pike. Some patterns & configurations are intended for shallow use, some deep, some fast, some slow, blah, blah, blah. At one time or another, every rod I owned except my fly rods have been properly used for spinnerbaits, from 5-1/2' light spinning rods to 6-1/2' heavy worm rods to 7' glass-tipped cranking rods to 7-1/2' flipping sticks. Again, what in the world is a spinnerbait rod? A rod that has been dubbed a "spinnerbait" rod by it's manufacturer is the best I can tell. -- Bob Rickard (AKA Dr. Spinnerbait) www.secretweaponlures.com --------------------------=x O'))) "SimRacer" wrote in message . com... "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:FtRJd.63893$Tf5.30837@lakeread03... I have tried the pistol grip but did not like the hook set when using it. It is in my garage somewhere catching dust. I only used it a few times but didn't really like it. Thanks for the advice though much appreciated. Cool then. I just grew up on pistol gripped roads, so keeping one around now is both useful and nostalgic. Thought it was both cool and somewhat supportive of my train of thought on them when a guy like Hank Parker kinda sees that rod-type, and its use(s), the same way I do. Then again, he and I are both North Carolinians, so maybe it's a regional thing... I don't think you can go wrong with any of Steve's suggestions, and G. Loomis also makes some nice rods, non-pistol grip style, that they even bill as "spinnerbait" rods. If you still are stumped in a little bit, look into custom rods, I ordered my very first "custom" rod a couple of weeks ago at the annual boat and fishing show here in Raleigh. Then you can get the length, weight, action, finish, blank makeup, guides and so on, that "you" want, exactly and not "close enough". And I also found talking to the actual rodmaker to be an invaluable resource about what to look for in regard to the various bait usage and casting styles. Here's the fella I ordered mine from: http://www.custombassrods.com/ IIRC, he has a "spinnerbait" rod as well. Nice folks, as are most rodmakers if I had to guess. If you've got $200+ to put into one, I'd at least look at customs too, just for the knowledge of "what a rod really is" if nothing else. Opened my eyes up, that's for sure. "SimRacer" wrote in message . com... "Pat_RI" wrote in message news:mGOJd.63879$Tf5.61805@lakeread03... I just purchased a curado reel and I am looking to team it with a rod to throw spinnerbaits. I am looking to spend up to 125.00 for a rod to go with it. Any recommendations? Steve has already given you the bulk of the advice I would've given you (and IMO, is a ton more credible than I anyway) but think about this too: Was watching an older Hank Parker Outdoors episode a few nights ago and he, like me, also favors keeping a shorter pistol grip casting rod in the boat for casting spinnerbaits with. You can do that "roll cast" type low slung cast with these short (and often more limber) rods and skip them under brush, docks, what have you. In other words a more low trajectory cast, that litteraly skins across or just above the water. Granted, he gave this schpeel while at Lake El Salto, and said in THAT case, go with longer (6.5-7-7.5) casting rods for their leverage, and that's what is needed in heavy cover/submerged cover like El Salto apparently has an abundance of. So it depends on what applications you have in mind for it, but you may want to consider a pistol grip, shorter rod in addition to the trigger sticks that Steve pointed you to (as I think they're great rods also). I currently only have one pistol grip in my collection, but it is fairly nice, and I recommend it highly to anyone not making a living catching fish...here it is @ Cabelas, you may find it other places as well: http://tinyurl.com/5mw28 It is the top one in the list, model GC56M - $99.95 list price. |
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