Ye Olde request for newbie fishing gear

We get these requests here about once a year, but rarely from a
roffian. So much for that...

I'm looking at buying 21 beginner outfits for my students, to be
mailed out to me here in HK. I already know I want to start them with
multi-piece 9ft 5wt outfits (so they can travel with them easier), but
I want to keep the price below $150 per setup while still getting a
rod & reel that will serve them beyond their 'novice' years.

So far, I've looked at LL Bean's 'Quest II' 4-pc outfit for $119 (less
bulk discount, plus shipping) http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/48827?feat=2136-GN2.
The rod and reel are nicely balanced, the rod casts good enough to be
a lifetime toy, but the reel is a little weak: the tolerances are just
loose enough that the line can slip around the stopper to the wrong
side of the reel when stripping line, causing a snarl.

Cabela's has a TFO 'Prestige Plus' setup for $90 for rod, reel,
backing, line, flybox and chest pack. Does anyone know about the rod
and reel: are they any good (or at least as good as the LL Bean
setup?) in terms of durablilty, balance, etc? The price seems too good
to be true, unless its basically a toy rod or reel.

Cabela's also has a Reddington 'Crossover' outfit for $99 with rod, LA
reel, backing and line. That looks like an even better quality setup,
but of course, I can only go by the text.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these (or any other)
Cabela's outfits, or can make another recommendation for a 4-pc 9ft
5wt starter pac?

Thanks

Meant to include the links to the Cabela's stuff:


Cabela's has a TFO 'Prestige Plus' setup for $90 for rod, reel,
backing, line, flybox and chest pack.
http://tinyurl.com/35atxqa


Cabela's also has a Reddington 'Crosswater' outfit for $99 with rod, LA
reel, backing and line. That looks like an even better quality setup,
but of course, I can only go by the text.
http://tinyurl.com/2evxo66


Does anyone have any experience with either of these (or any other)
Cabela's outfits
http://tinyurl.com/33uejqk

"riverman" wrote in message
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We get these requests here about once a year, but rarely from a
roffian. So much for that...

I'm looking at buying 21 beginner outfits for my students, to be
mailed out to me here in HK. I already know I want to start them with
multi-piece 9ft 5wt outfits (so they can travel with them easier), but
I want to keep the price below $150 per setup while still getting a
rod & reel that will serve them beyond their 'novice' years.

So far, I've looked at LL Bean's 'Quest II' 4-pc outfit for $119 (less
bulk discount, plus shipping)
http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/48827?feat=2136-GN2.
The rod and reel are nicely balanced, the rod casts good enough to be
a lifetime toy, but the reel is a little weak: the tolerances are just
loose enough that the line can slip around the stopper to the wrong
side of the reel when stripping line, causing a snarl.

Cabela's has a TFO 'Prestige Plus' setup for $90 for rod, reel,
backing, line, flybox and chest pack. Does anyone know about the rod
and reel: are they any good (or at least as good as the LL Bean
setup?) in terms of durablilty, balance, etc? The price seems too good
to be true, unless its basically a toy rod or reel.

Cabela's also has a Reddington 'Crossover' outfit for $99 with rod, LA
reel, backing and line. That looks like an even better quality setup,
but of course, I can only go by the text.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these (or any other)
Cabela's outfits, or can make another recommendation for a 4-pc 9ft
5wt starter pac?

Thanks

Say what you will my friend, but I think an 8 and 1/2 foot rod is plenty
long...I'd even wager an 8' rod.

First timers are going to be drifting nymphs or straight upstream
casts...not much mending and such.

Why not set up a little weekend camp...I'll bring my 8 1/2 foot 8 wt and my
9' 5 wt and we can let the kids play and give them a few basics..... I
promise I will say nothing...

I am about two hours away on Mindanao in the Philippines....

....and thinking seriously of the whiskey bars you spoke of

And to every one else, so much has happened I don't know quite where to
begin. I found my "Waldo's 2000 Spring Fling " hat.... I've had a voodoo
experience with CDM coffee thanks to Rdean and I caught some Talapia and
Heto the other day.

Yah...give me a place to set my tent and I give free casting lessons.....as
long as we don't speak the language...jejeje

john

On 12/2/2010 10:45 AM, john b wrote:


I am about two hours away on Mindanao in the Philippines....

...and thinking seriously of the whiskey bars you spoke of


john

ok...i'll bite that lure. so, john...wtf is going on with you? are you
now an ex-patriot? living in the philippines? doing what? why? plans?
fishing? sold out and departed from ohio/usa forever? there's always a
story, and i'd sure like to hear as much as you can share...

trust all is well.

jeff

On Dec 1, 8:03*pm, riverman wrote:
We get these requests here about once a year, but rarely from a
roffian. So much for that...

I'm looking at buying 21 beginner outfits for my students, to be
mailed out to me here in HK. I already know I want to start them with
multi-piece 9ft 5wt outfits (so they can travel with them easier), but
I want to keep the price below $150 per setup while still getting a
rod & reel that will serve them beyond their 'novice' years.

So far, I've looked at LL Bean's 'Quest II' 4-pc outfit for $119 (less
bulk discount, plus shipping)http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/48827?feat=2136-GN2.
The rod and reel are nicely balanced, the rod casts good enough to be
a lifetime toy, but the reel is a little weak: the tolerances are just
loose enough that the line can slip around the stopper to the wrong
side of the reel when stripping line, causing a snarl.

Cabela's has a TFO 'Prestige Plus' setup for $90 for rod, reel,
backing, line, flybox and chest pack. Does anyone know about the rod
and reel: are they any good (or at least as good as the LL Bean
setup?) in terms of durablilty, balance, etc? The price seems too good
to be true, unless its basically a toy rod or reel.

Cabela's also has a Reddington 'Crossover' outfit for $99 with rod, LA
reel, backing and line. That looks like an even better quality setup,
but of course, I can only go by the text.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these (or any other)
Cabela's outfits, or can make another recommendation for a 4-pc 9ft
5wt starter pac?

Thanks

Hell, why carry coal to Newcastle? Why not pop for entry level Sage,
show them some superior American technology and quality manufacturing
for which they can spend some of those Yankee dollars they've been
piling up from the trade deficits and China's rigged currency system.

Dave

On Dec 4, 4:01*am, DaveS wrote:
On Dec 1, 8:03*pm, riverman wrote:





We get these requests here about once a year, but rarely from a
roffian. So much for that...

I'm looking at buying 21 beginner outfits for my students, to be
mailed out to me here in HK. I already know I want to start them with
multi-piece 9ft 5wt outfits (so they can travel with them easier), but
I want to keep the price below $150 per setup while still getting a
rod & reel that will serve them beyond their 'novice' years.

So far, I've looked at LL Bean's 'Quest II' 4-pc outfit for $119 (less
bulk discount, plus shipping)http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/48827?feat=2136-GN2.
The rod and reel are nicely balanced, the rod casts good enough to be
a lifetime toy, but the reel is a little weak: the tolerances are just
loose enough that the line can slip around the stopper to the wrong
side of the reel when stripping line, causing a snarl.

Cabela's has a TFO 'Prestige Plus' setup for $90 for rod, reel,
backing, line, flybox and chest pack. Does anyone know about the rod
and reel: are they any good (or at least as good as the LL Bean
setup?) in terms of durablilty, balance, etc? The price seems too good
to be true, unless its basically a toy rod or reel.

Cabela's also has a Reddington 'Crossover' outfit for $99 with rod, LA
reel, backing and line. That looks like an even better quality setup,
but of course, I can only go by the text.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these (or any other)
Cabela's outfits, or can make another recommendation for a 4-pc 9ft
5wt starter pac?

Thanks

Hell, why carry coal to Newcastle? Why not pop for entry level Sage,
show them some superior American technology and quality manufacturing
for which they can spend some of those Yankee dollars they've been
piling up from the trade deficits and China's rigged currency system.

Dave

'Coal to Newcastle'...I like that. I most certainly would like to get
them starter Sage kits, but my budget for each kid is $200US for
everything, and Sage starts at about twice that for just the rod and
reel. I can do it within budget easily, but I could use some insights
on the quality of Cabela's Prestige Plus and Crosswater outfits. From
name recognition alone, I'm leaning towards the Redington Crosswater
setup, but it's a fairly blind decision.

On Dec 4, 5:26*pm, riverman wrote:
On Dec 4, 4:01*am, DaveS wrote:





On Dec 1, 8:03*pm, riverman wrote:

We get these requests here about once a year, but rarely from a
roffian. So much for that...

I'm looking at buying 21 beginner outfits for my students, to be
mailed out to me here in HK. I already know I want to start them with
multi-piece 9ft 5wt outfits (so they can travel with them easier), but
I want to keep the price below $150 per setup while still getting a
rod & reel that will serve them beyond their 'novice' years.

So far, I've looked at LL Bean's 'Quest II' 4-pc outfit for $119 (less
bulk discount, plus shipping)http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/48827?feat=2136-GN2.
The rod and reel are nicely balanced, the rod casts good enough to be
a lifetime toy, but the reel is a little weak: the tolerances are just
loose enough that the line can slip around the stopper to the wrong
side of the reel when stripping line, causing a snarl.

Cabela's has a TFO 'Prestige Plus' setup for $90 for rod, reel,
backing, line, flybox and chest pack. Does anyone know about the rod
and reel: are they any good (or at least as good as the LL Bean
setup?) in terms of durablilty, balance, etc? The price seems too good
to be true, unless its basically a toy rod or reel.

Cabela's also has a Reddington 'Crossover' outfit for $99 with rod, LA
reel, backing and line. That looks like an even better quality setup,
but of course, I can only go by the text.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these (or any other)
Cabela's outfits, or can make another recommendation for a 4-pc 9ft
5wt starter pac?

Thanks

Hell, why carry coal to Newcastle? Why not pop for entry level Sage,
show them some superior American technology and quality manufacturing
for which they can spend some of those Yankee dollars they've been
piling up from the trade deficits and China's rigged currency system.

Dave

'Coal to Newcastle'...I like that. I most certainly would like to get
them starter Sage kits, but my budget for each kid is $200US for
everything, and Sage starts at about twice that for just the rod and
reel. I can do it within budget easily, but I could use some insights
on the quality of Cabela's Prestige Plus and Crosswater outfits. From
name recognition alone, I'm leaning towards the Redington Crosswater
setup, but it's a fairly blind decision.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Merciless retail thugs that they are . . . Cabala's IS pretty
reliable, if they've kept their returns policy it's hard to beat em.
But my info is ancient.

Dave

"DaveS" wrote in message
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On Dec 4, 5:26 pm, riverman wrote:
On Dec 4, 4:01 am, DaveS wrote:





On Dec 1, 8:03 pm, riverman wrote:

We get these requests here about once a year, but rarely from a
roffian. So much for that...

I'm looking at buying 21 beginner outfits for my students, to be
mailed out to me here in HK. I already know I want to start them with
multi-piece 9ft 5wt outfits (so they can travel with them easier),
but
I want to keep the price below $150 per setup while still getting a
rod & reel that will serve them beyond their 'novice' years.

So far, I've looked at LL Bean's 'Quest II' 4-pc outfit for $119
(less
bulk discount, plus
shipping)http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/48827?feat=2136-GN2.
The rod and reel are nicely balanced, the rod casts good enough to be
a lifetime toy, but the reel is a little weak: the tolerances are
just
loose enough that the line can slip around the stopper to the wrong
side of the reel when stripping line, causing a snarl.

Cabela's has a TFO 'Prestige Plus' setup for $90 for rod, reel,
backing, line, flybox and chest pack. Does anyone know about the rod
and reel: are they any good (or at least as good as the LL Bean
setup?) in terms of durablilty, balance, etc? The price seems too
good
to be true, unless its basically a toy rod or reel.

Cabela's also has a Reddington 'Crossover' outfit for $99 with rod,
LA
reel, backing and line. That looks like an even better quality setup,
but of course, I can only go by the text.

Does anyone have any experience with either of these (or any other)
Cabela's outfits, or can make another recommendation for a 4-pc 9ft
5wt starter pac?

Thanks

Hell, why carry coal to Newcastle? Why not pop for entry level Sage,
show them some superior American technology and quality manufacturing
for which they can spend some of those Yankee dollars they've been
piling up from the trade deficits and China's rigged currency system.

Dave

'Coal to Newcastle'...I like that. I most certainly would like to get
them starter Sage kits, but my budget for each kid is $200US for
everything, and Sage starts at about twice that for just the rod and
reel. I can do it within budget easily, but I could use some insights
on the quality of Cabela's Prestige Plus and Crosswater outfits. From
name recognition alone, I'm leaning towards the Redington Crosswater
setup, but it's a fairly blind decision.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Merciless retail thugs that they are . . . Cabala's IS pretty

No different than Bass Pro Shops

reliable, if they've kept their returns policy it's hard to beat em.
But my info is ancient.

I've had good luck with Cabelas return policy. They even sent or included
return labels for some bulky items. Had batteries arrive damaged and they
sent replacements and call tags. Had a truck bed liner mislabeled and they
sent a return shipping label.

On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:26:42 -0800 (PST), riverman
wrote:

On Dec 1, 8:03*pm, riverman wrote:

I'm looking at buying 21 beginner outfits for my students, to be
mailed out to me here in HK. I already know I want to start them with
multi-piece 9ft 5wt outfits (so they can travel with them easier), but
I want to keep the price below $150 per setup while still getting a
rod & reel that will serve them beyond their 'novice' years.

Check with Albright's...
http://www.albrightflyfishing.com/it...fit-detail.htm

I currently own/use 3-, 5-, and 7-wt rods from them. Very happy with
their gear... especially the prices!

On Dec 7, 7:29*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 4 Dec 2010 17:26:42 -0800 (PST), riverman

wrote:
On Dec 1, 8:03 pm, riverman wrote:

I'm looking at buying 21 beginner outfits for my students, to be
mailed out to me here in HK. I already know I want to start them with
multi-piece 9ft 5wt outfits (so they can travel with them easier), but
I want to keep the price below $150 per setup while still getting a
rod & reel that will serve them beyond their 'novice' years.

Check with Albright's...http://www.albrightflyfishing.com/it...s/topwater-9-5...

I currently own/use 3-, 5-, and 7-wt rods from them. *Very happy with
their gear... especially the prices!

I will second the Albright. If you can get the A-5, its a GREAT rod.
Frank Reid