Casting Disaster

Scott Seidman wrote:


Clarification: I said I shoot them ON the ass, not IN the ass. That NY
law is just amazing. Here in Washington its perfectly OK to shoot a
deer with a BB gun while riding a mule. Just shows you how diverse
this country is.

Dave

Dave





From the DEC hunting regulations:

"To hunt—means to pursue, shoot, kill or capture (other than trap)
wildlife and includes all lesser acts that disturb or worry wildlife
whether or not they result in taking. Hunting also includes all acts to
assist another person in taking wildlife."


That's a pretty poorly worded regulation. Walking, talking, shouting,
running, fly fishing etc. could "disturb or worry" wildlife.

Willi

wrote...
That's a pretty poorly worded regulation. Walking, talking, shouting,
running, fly fishing etc. could "disturb or worry" wildlife.

Just don't do it in a "concealed" manner and you should be okay.
Don't have a beer either. :-)
--
Warren
(use troutbum_mt on either yahoo or earthlink to respond via email)

Willi wrote:

That's a pretty poorly worded regulation. Walking, talking, shouting,
running, fly fishing etc. could "disturb or worry" wildlife.

Successful fly fishing actually requires it. :-)

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

Willi wrote in
:



Scott Seidman wrote:


Clarification: I said I shoot them ON the ass, not IN the ass. That
NY law is just amazing. Here in Washington its perfectly OK to shoot
a deer with a BB gun while riding a mule. Just shows you how diverse
this country is.

Dave

Dave





From the DEC hunting regulations:

"To hunt—means to pursue, shoot, kill or capture (other than trap)
wildlife and includes all lesser acts that disturb or worry wildlife
whether or not they result in taking. Hunting also includes all acts
to assist another person in taking wildlife."


That's a pretty poorly worded regulation. Walking, talking, shouting,
running, fly fishing etc. could "disturb or worry" wildlife.

Willi





It's not poorly worded-- my understanding is that it's intentionally
worded that way so that conservation officers can charge people who
intentionally disturb animals for the purpose of interrupting legal
hunts with "hunting without a license"!!

Scott

Scott Seidman wrote:


From the DEC hunting regulations:

"To hunt—means to pursue, shoot, kill or capture (other than trap)
wildlife and includes all lesser acts that disturb or worry wildlife
whether or not they result in taking. Hunting also includes all acts
to assist another person in taking wildlife."


That's a pretty poorly worded regulation. Walking, talking, shouting,
running, fly fishing etc. could "disturb or worry" wildlife.

Willi






It's not poorly worded-- my understanding is that it's intentionally
worded that way so that conservation officers can charge people who
intentionally disturb animals for the purpose of interrupting legal
hunts with "hunting without a license"!!


That may be its intent, but it's still a poorly worded regulation. I
can't see how it would be upheld if someone challenged it.

Willi

On Wed, 12 May 2004 17:47:30 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Carl Nisarel" wrote in message
ws.com...

One cannot fashion a credible deterrent out of an incredible
action. - Robert S. McNamara

Hm........

Three scowling lummoxen, cudgels rampant, approach rapidly (in single file)
shrieking fowl oaths interspersed with what can only be interpreted as
threats of physical violence. You cut the legs off the first one with an
eighteen inch Homelite® chainsaw..........

Doesn't fit - that's hardly an "incredible action" if all you've got is an
eighteen inch Homelite chainsaw.

otoh, if you cut off one of your *own* legs - now *that* would be an
"incredible action".

/daytripper (unfortunately, it sucks as a deterrent, so the rule "stands" ;-)

On Wed, 12 May 2004 04:28:25 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Warren" wrote in message
e...

...What is it that I am supposed to believe again?

That you will, one day.....oh, say in twenty-five years or so....wonder how
life might have been different if your daughter had been raised by an adult.

Wolfgang
to whom it probably won't make much difference.

"TWEEEET! That play was OFFSIDES! 5 YARDS, REPEAT THE DOWN"

/daytripper (to whom it kind does make much difference)

On Wed, 12 May 2004 17:54:39 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"Carl Nisarel" wrote in message
s.com...

One cannot fashion a credible deterrent out of an incredible
action. - Robert S. McNamara

Hm........

Three scowling lummoxen, cudgels rampant, approach rapidly (in single
file)
shrieking fowl oaths interspersed with what can only be interpreted as
threats of physical violence. You cut the legs off the first one with an
eighteen inch Homelite® chainsaw..........

Wolfgang

p.s. The trouble with stock sig lines is not so much that they are stupid
as........um......well.....yeah, actually, that IS the trouble with them.

Wolfgang

[..../]

Irony meter

/daytripper (ps: posting the ps before your handle fools noone. hth ;-)

it does make a difference to me as well. i like, and care about, warren
and wolfgang. long ago i decided that i would let little said here
affect my personal interactions with folks. i have moderated that
spirited optimism a bit. however, i will say that from my experieces
with warren, including observing his daughter with him, his daughter is
most fortunate to have such a father. i only wish i knew more divorced
men who were as caring and adult as warren about the serious business
and hard work of parenting a child after separation and divorce from the
child's mother. i was more impressed by warren's parenting ability than
his fishing...and he's a damn fine fisherman.

jeff (who hopes time has expired and the game is over)

daytripper wrote:

On Wed, 12 May 2004 04:28:25 -0500, "Wolfgang" wrote:


"Warren" wrote in message
. de...


...What is it that I am supposed to believe again?

That you will, one day.....oh, say in twenty-five years or so....wonder how
life might have been different if your daughter had been raised by an adult.

Wolfgang
to whom it probably won't make much difference.


"TWEEEET! That play was OFFSIDES! 5 YARDS, REPEAT THE DOWN"

/daytripper (to whom it kind does make much difference)

Jeff Miller wrote:

it does make a difference to me as well. i like, and care about, warren
and wolfgang. long ago i decided that i would let little said here
affect my personal interactions with folks. i have moderated that
spirited optimism a bit. however, i will say that from my experieces
with warren, including observing his daughter with him, his daughter is
most fortunate to have such a father. i only wish i knew more divorced
men who were as caring and adult as warren about the serious business
and hard work of parenting a child after separation and divorce from the
child's mother. i was more impressed by warren's parenting ability than
his fishing...and he's a damn fine fisherman.


I concur. It's too easy for many divorced fathers to shirk their
responsibilities, especially the emotional/relationship parts. Warren
has a great relationship with his daughter and she's a fine young girl.

Willi