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Old September 29th, 2003, 03:26 PM
Chuck Coger
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Weigh in is at 2:45!!!
Exactly what does that mean as far as where you are suppose to be by 2:45?

a) at the launch site/ramp/basin
b) at the scales ready to be weighed
c) at the scales completley weighed by 2:45

Before you ask, that is all that is said in the weigh in rule. "Weigh in is
at 2:45" thats it. I am intrested to hear the replies

As you can probably tell by me asking this question my Tourney didn't go off
to well and the above question was the final straw in a struggling day.
Caught some fish missed some bigger ones, our 4 best fish out of 6 would
have been a mere 4 pounds out of first had we not been DQ'd.
Trolling motor catches on fire at around 9:30, so I was left drifting, Main
cranking battery dies at 12:45, steering cable locks up at about 1:30.

A big storm come up at around 2:00 with lightning in it. Most people head
in, we are fishing literally 5 minutes for the basin looking for a last
minuite fish in a big fish spot. At 2:38 by our watches we leave, but it has
been 5 or 10 minutes since the last boat headed in, and it is now raining
cats and dogs. We arrive by 2:42 in at the ramp, and the weigh in is done
and the guy doing the check in clamis it is 2:55 and we are DQ'd.. This is
after we go get weigh in bags, which he gave my partner and never said a
thing, then at the scales he claims it is 2:55. After I complain, and get
the boat on the trailer, with a limping steering cable, my truck clock says
2:57, so 2 minutes to complain, and get my boat on the trailer, locked and
teathered down and back to the weigh in station.. Either they just got tired
of standing in the rain, or I dont understand what the "implied" meaning of
Weigh in is at 2:45!!!


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Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com


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Old September 29th, 2003, 04:00 PM
Bob La Londe
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Official time. Most of the tournaments I fish launch out of the same
harbor. If we are in the harbor in the immediate area of the weigh dock NOT
FISHING we are in on time. Basically you should be in line to weigh in at
weigh in time.

At the start of each tournement the tournament director usually announces
official time. If I don't hear it I will ask for official time, and then I
will set my watch a couple minutes ahead of that.

It is possible that you got stiffed. Unfortunately there is nothing you can
do about it. Almost all tournament rules say that the director's word is
final.

If it is a club tournement I would attend a club meeting and ask that the
weigh in time be clarified and official time be announced prior to the
tournement start. If you approach this politely and you get nothing but
attitude then I suggest you vote with your wallet and fish with another
group. If you truly feel cheated and don't care if you make enemies of some
of the group then go so far as to publicly demand your money back for club
dues.

Note: Official time is almost always based on the tournament director's
watch. Not on a standard universal time broadcast, an internet check to the
conservatory in Boulder Colorado or the radio or any other semi precise
measurement.


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Old September 29th, 2003, 04:17 PM
Charles B. Summers
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When we sign in at our club tournaments, we are given a chip to place on the
key ring. If the "Officials" say that the tournament ends at 12:00, then our
chips are to be in the bucket by 12:00. If you get there at 12:01, there is
no bucket, and you know you're DQ'ed.

If they said that "Weigh-In" was at 2:45, then I would taken that to mean
that weigh-in began at 2:45. I'd probably be out of the boat and waiting for
it to start at 2:30.

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
.. .
Weigh in is at 2:45!!!
Exactly what does that mean as far as where you are suppose to be by 2:45?

a) at the launch site/ramp/basin
b) at the scales ready to be weighed
c) at the scales completley weighed by 2:45

Before you ask, that is all that is said in the weigh in rule. "Weigh in

is
at 2:45" thats it. I am intrested to hear the replies

As you can probably tell by me asking this question my Tourney didn't go

off
to well and the above question was the final straw in a struggling day.
Caught some fish missed some bigger ones, our 4 best fish out of 6 would
have been a mere 4 pounds out of first had we not been DQ'd.
Trolling motor catches on fire at around 9:30, so I was left drifting,

Main
cranking battery dies at 12:45, steering cable locks up at about 1:30.

A big storm come up at around 2:00 with lightning in it. Most people head
in, we are fishing literally 5 minutes for the basin looking for a last
minuite fish in a big fish spot. At 2:38 by our watches we leave, but it

has
been 5 or 10 minutes since the last boat headed in, and it is now raining
cats and dogs. We arrive by 2:42 in at the ramp, and the weigh in is done
and the guy doing the check in clamis it is 2:55 and we are DQ'd.. This is
after we go get weigh in bags, which he gave my partner and never said a
thing, then at the scales he claims it is 2:55. After I complain, and get
the boat on the trailer, with a limping steering cable, my truck clock

says
2:57, so 2 minutes to complain, and get my boat on the trailer, locked and
teathered down and back to the weigh in station.. Either they just got

tired
of standing in the rain, or I dont understand what the "implied" meaning

of
Weigh in is at 2:45!!!


---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com




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Old September 29th, 2003, 05:04 PM
Carlos
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Tournaments I have fished used the terminology of "check-in time" or
"weight-in time" interchangebly. What is meant is that you have to check-in
with a person placed so he can see you as you arrive at the weigh-in site.
You check your boat number in and make sure he logs you on the clipboard.

2:45 pm means being checked in on that clipboard before 2:46 pm and it is by
official time. That is the tournment directors time which he should have
announced both at the pre-tournement meeting the night before and that
morning prior to launch, when you checked in.

If there are any doubts, ask the obvious questions.


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Old September 29th, 2003, 07:02 PM
Chuck Coger
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I agree, however that "check-in" place was never designated in the rules.
Most of the tourneys I fished in Florida it would mean (and it again is
usually assumed) be in the basin by 2:45, where indeed you are checked off.
So I may not be able to weigh my fish until 2:55, and would still be checked
in on time.
I should also mention that we did check the offical time and we were right
on it in the morning during launch, not sure to the second but our minutes
did match.
Lastly it was not the tournament director himself that DQ'd us, nor did they
check with his official time since he was absent at the moment, the guy
doing the weighing used his watch, and we can only assume it was right.

Anyway it was just the straw that broke the camels back on a bad day, and I
challenged the principal of not designated a place in the rules to check in.
This makes me question every single person that weghed in fish. Since there
were 2 flights and 2 weigh in times, without a proper check in can the prove
everyone with fish were on time? I would suspect not.

Like Charles I have fished a few that did the chip process, only we dropped
them in a net, that makes things a lot easier. That way you know for sure,
and if a boat is in trouble you know to go look for them.

oh well, I just think some people melt when they get wet, and that is why
they closed up early.

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"Carlos" wrote in message
...
Tournaments I have fished used the terminology of "check-in time" or
"weight-in time" interchangebly. What is meant is that you have to

check-in
with a person placed so he can see you as you arrive at the weigh-in site.
You check your boat number in and make sure he logs you on the clipboard.

2:45 pm means being checked in on that clipboard before 2:46 pm and it is

by
official time. That is the tournment directors time which he should have
announced both at the pre-tournement meeting the night before and that
morning prior to launch, when you checked in.

If there are any doubts, ask the obvious questions.





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Old September 29th, 2003, 09:03 PM
Charles B. Summers
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"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
om...
oh well, I just think some people melt when they get wet, and that is why
they closed up early.

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COuld have very well been the reason. Check to see what the inclimate
weather rules state.


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Old October 1st, 2003, 09:27 PM
Dan
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Sounds like you got a major shtupping there. Without the official time, all
bets are off.
As far as how it goes out here in the west as well as in BASS:
The terms, time due in, / check in, / weigh in / are all interchangable.
What they all mean is that you are back inside the no wake bouys of the host
marina, and have stopped fishing by that time. Almost always, if you are
seen racing in, the officials will acknowledge that you are back even if you
didn't cross the line exactly on the time stated. The premise being that it
is better to run safe and offer a few seconds of leeway. This does not apply
beyond 30-60 seconds
However, I was once the unfortunate competator in a major western tourney.
Another boat and myself were close to the DQ time and were racing back to
the marina. He was the length of his boat ahead. The official ruled the guy
in front crossed the line at the DQ time. I was behind him, so I was "late"
and DQ'd for that day's catch. Needless to say I was seriously PO'd, not
only because I throttled back to remain safe a couple times going across the
bay, but we were visable coming in a good 2 miles off and were obviously on
our way in. Mind you I admit the fault is originally mine for cutting it
that close. We were withing 10 miles of the marina and delayed heading in
too long. However, the ruling in any case, was way out of hand.
It was for BS like that (and a whole lot worse) that I haven't fished that
circuit for 10 years now. Pulled all my advertising from their publications,
and refuse to promote or sponsor their tournies or publications anymore.
Sometimes you just have to decide what you are willing to put up with.
Ah the politics of fishing....

Dan W.

"Chuck Coger" wrote in message
.. .
Weigh in is at 2:45!!!
Exactly what does that mean as far as where you are suppose to be by 2:45?

a) at the launch site/ramp/basin
b) at the scales ready to be weighed
c) at the scales completley weighed by 2:45

Before you ask, that is all that is said in the weigh in rule. "Weigh in

is
at 2:45" thats it. I am intrested to hear the replies

As you can probably tell by me asking this question my Tourney didn't go

off
to well and the above question was the final straw in a struggling day.
Caught some fish missed some bigger ones, our 4 best fish out of 6 would
have been a mere 4 pounds out of first had we not been DQ'd.
Trolling motor catches on fire at around 9:30, so I was left drifting,

Main
cranking battery dies at 12:45, steering cable locks up at about 1:30.

A big storm come up at around 2:00 with lightning in it. Most people head
in, we are fishing literally 5 minutes for the basin looking for a last
minuite fish in a big fish spot. At 2:38 by our watches we leave, but it

has
been 5 or 10 minutes since the last boat headed in, and it is now raining
cats and dogs. We arrive by 2:42 in at the ramp, and the weigh in is done
and the guy doing the check in clamis it is 2:55 and we are DQ'd.. This is
after we go get weigh in bags, which he gave my partner and never said a
thing, then at the scales he claims it is 2:55. After I complain, and get
the boat on the trailer, with a limping steering cable, my truck clock

says
2:57, so 2 minutes to complain, and get my boat on the trailer, locked and
teathered down and back to the weigh in station.. Either they just got

tired
of standing in the rain, or I dont understand what the "implied" meaning

of
Weigh in is at 2:45!!!


---
Chuck Coger
http://www.fishin-pro.com




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Old October 1st, 2003, 10:48 PM
Josh
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Had the exact same thing happen to me Dan.. . in a damn club tourney though
! Guy in front of us was considered inside the no wake bouy so he was ok, we
were yards behind. Spose it's true we all know the quit time. Just wondering
if we take ourselves a little to seriously though somtimes when it comes to
splitting hairs.

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Josh The Bad Bear


 




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