Neoprene wader repair.

- Not Superglue which is water soluble

Does this mean that super-glueing a knot is a waste of time?

Richard Bailey
fishing traditionally in The Fens

In article , Richard Bailey
wrote:
- Not Superglue which is water soluble

Does this mean that super-glueing a knot is a waste of time?

That depends on the material you're knotting, there are waterproof
cyanoacrylates which might be suitable in some circumstances.

Superglueing (or anything which encases the knot in a rigid matrix) makes
any knot in nylon weaker - so if that's your intention, go ahead.

Cheerio,

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Derek

I believe that the main reason for knot failure is that over-tightening it
produces strangulation of the standing part ie the main line where it leaves
the knot. I have found that I get less of this inherent bloodknot problem
when I superglue the knot, but had not realised that the glue was soluble in
water.

Richard.



"Derek.Moody" wrote in message
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In article , Richard Bailey
wrote:
- Not Superglue which is water soluble

Does this mean that super-glueing a knot is a waste of time?

That depends on the material you're knotting, there are waterproof
cyanoacrylates which might be suitable in some circumstances.

Superglueing (or anything which encases the knot in a rigid matrix) makes
any knot in nylon weaker - so if that's your intention, go ahead.

Cheerio,

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Evostik, Thixofix are examples. - Not Superglue which is water soluble
anyway.

Hmm, never having used them before, I made up braided loops for all my
new salmon and trout lines last year. I was then informed by a friend
that braided loops have been 'rubbed off' by a hooked fish chaffing the
braid against rocks and other solid submerged objects, so also
Superglued them for added sucurity.

Watch this space...

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Kim Sawyer
Sutherland
Scotland

In article , Richard Bailey
wrote:

I believe that the main reason for knot failure is that over-tightening it
produces strangulation of the standing part ie the main line where it leaves
the knot. I have found that I get less of this inherent bloodknot problem
when I superglue the knot, but had not realised that the glue was soluble in
water.

Nylon mono is used for casting small, complicated holes in rigid substrates
as the line can always be drawn from the hole no matter how complicated the
path. If superglue gets inside the knot it cannot close on itself under
tension and so draws.

What are you using bloodknots for - droppers? Home tied leaders?

Have you tried a water knot for droppers - tied so the strain closes the
knot rather than the lazy way which means that strain opens it?

Cheerio,

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On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:03:46 +0100, "Derek.Moody"
wrote:

In article , Richard Bailey
wrote:

I believe that the main reason for knot failure is that over-tightening it
produces strangulation of the standing part ie the main line where it leaves
the knot. I have found that I get less of this inherent bloodknot problem
when I superglue the knot, but had not realised that the glue was soluble in
water.

Nylon mono is used for casting small, complicated holes in rigid substrates
as the line can always be drawn from the hole no matter how complicated the
path. If superglue gets inside the knot it cannot close on itself under
tension and so draws.

What are you using bloodknots for - droppers? Home tied leaders?

Have you tried a water knot for droppers - tied so the strain closes the
knot rather than the lazy way which means that strain opens it?

Cheerio,

I am not familiar with this knot, do you have a link to a site that
shows it?

Titus A Ducksass wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:03:46 +0100, "Derek.Moody"
wrote:

Have you tried a water knot for droppers - tied so the strain
closes
the knot rather than the lazy way which means that strain opens it?

Cheerio,

I am not familiar with this knot, do you have a link to a site that
shows it?

Also known as surgeons knot, have a look below.

http://www.fishandfly.co.uk/knots/index.html#leaders


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In article , Titus A Ducksass
wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004 11:03:46 +0100, "Derek.Moody"
wrote:

Have you tried a water knot for droppers - tied so the strain closes the
knot rather than the lazy way which means that strain opens it?

Cheerio,

I am not familiar with this knot, do you have a link to a site that
shows it?

Er, no.

Basically a double or triple overhand knot tied with two strands together
but you can't usually tie it that way as the trick is to lead the strain out
of opposite sides of the knot so make one overhand and work the other into
it.

Cheerio,

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