WHat is Spam

From
http://spam.abuse.net/overview/whatisspam.shtml




Spam is flooding the Internet with many copies of the same message, in
an attempt to force the message on people who would not otherwise choose
to receive it. Most spam is commercial advertising, often for dubious
products, get-rich-quick schemes, or quasi-legal services. Spam costs
the sender very little to send -- most of the costs are paid for by the
recipient or the carriers rather than by the sender.

There are two main types of spam, and they have different effects on
Internet users. Cancellable Usenet spam is a single message sent to 20
or more Usenet newsgroups. (Through long experience, Usenet users have
found that any message posted to so many newsgroups is often not
relevant to most or all of them.) Usenet spam is aimed at "lurkers",
people who read newsgroups but rarely or never post and give their
address away. Usenet spam robs users of the utility of the newsgroups by
overwhelming them with a barrage of advertising or other irrelevant
posts. Furthermore, Usenet spam subverts the ability of system
administrators and owners to manage the topics they accept on their systems.



From http://www.viruslist.com/en/spam/info?chapter=153350526


Most people believe that spam is unsolicitied email. However, this
definition is not entirely correct and confuses some types of legitimate
business correspondence with true spam.

Spam is anonymous, unsolicited bulk email.

This is the description that is being used today in the USA and Europe
as a basis for the creation of anti-spam legislation. Let's take a
closer look at each component of the definition:

* Anonymous: real spam is sent with spoofed or harvested sender
addresses to conceal the actual sender.
* Mass mailing: real spam is sent in mass quantities. Spammers make
money from the small percentage of recipients that actually respond, so
for spam to be cost-effective, the initial mails have to be high-volume.
* Unsolicited: mailing lists, newsletters and other advertising
materials that end users have opted to receive may resemble spam but are
actually legitimate mail. In other words, the same piece of mail can be
classed as both spam and legitimate mail depending on whether or not the
user elected to receive it.

It should be highlighted that the words 'advertising' and 'commercial'
are not used to define spam.

Many spam messages are neither advertising nor any type of commercial
proposition. In additon to offering goods and services, spam mailings
can fall into the following categories:

* Political messages
* Quasi-charity appeals
* Financial scams
* Chain letters
* Fake spam being used to spread malware

Unsoliticited but legitimate messages

A legitimate commercial proposition, a charity appeal, an invitation
addressed personally to an existing recipient or a newsletter can
certainly be defined as unsolicited mail, but not as spam. Legitimate
messages may also include delivery failure messages, misdirected
messages, messages from system administrators or even messages from old
friends who have previously not corresponded with the recipient by
email. Unsolicited - yes. Unwanted - not necessarily.
How to deal with spam


H'mmm seams like people like to make their own rules, like regular
contributors saying "hay guys tell me what's wrong with my "topic"
related web site" is spam. He did not do it to multiple and off topic
groups is spam, when in fact it's not.




--
Rodney Long
SpecTastic tackle company

http://spectastictackle.com/

In your experience have you found that posting commercials (SPAM)
in non-commercial Usenet newsgroups to be a good business practice ?
And if, in your experience, it actually is a good business practice
why doesn't everyone do it ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

This group could have thousands of people on it, if it didn't have the
self appointed net cops, who call "everything" about someone's web site
as being spam

The pro's I know never post to groups like this because if they mention
they are kicking butt with one of their sponsor' lures , they are called
spammers, if someone from Bass Pro shops got on here and told everyone,
hay guys check out this new lure we just started carrying, it the
greatest thing I've fished with, is run off for spamming . If some small
lure makers came on here and said guys I'm trying to develop a new lure,
and I need the groups input,, is FLAMED, and called every name in the book.

I would love to hear and see what's new in bass fishing, like the video
link that was just posted. Of course since the one giving that link is
not associated with the company, it was not spam, if the same link was
posted from someone who invented it, he would be called the lowest
spammer in the world. (it was a very good looking bait, I could care
less who posted it, it was on topic, and no one was forced to click the
link)

What I think a few on here want, is they want to spend all their money
with people who don't contribute to the overall group. It's fine to talk
about any body's (company's) lures here as long as no one on the group
gets any money from the others buying that lure, that money should go to
the MEGA tackle companies who only think the members here are a $ sign,
not worth their time to even answer a question.

I'm a member of several fishing email groups, that have many times the
numbers of people than this group, they also have many people who are
members, who are also in the fishing industry. In these groups there are
no "spam cops" in the membership , and the list owners tell those in the
industry, if you have something new coming out, PLEASE let the group
know first. The reason for this is everyone in the group wants to catch
more fish.

Now if someone just started posting the same "commercial" message, about
the same product everyday, or even once a week, I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE
JUMPED. That has never happened though.

This group has lost many good contributors, because they were in the
fishing industry, they offered much more than just their products.

I've had many members from here tell me they loved some of my stuff
years ago, but where heavily flamed, or feared they would be flamed for
talking about it on this group.

--
Rodney Long
SpecTastic tackle company

http://spectastictackle.com/

The real question is not whether or not it's a good business practice, the
question is "What is Spam"

--
WWW.GOTOBAITS.COM
PREMIUM HAND POURED BAITS
"Ken Fortenberry" wrote in message
. ..
In your experience have you found that posting commercials (SPAM)
in non-commercial Usenet newsgroups to be a good business practice ?
And if, in your experience, it actually is a good business practice
why doesn't everyone do it ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Fishking wrote:
The real question is not whether or not it's a good business practice, the
question is "What is Spam"

A commercial in a non-commercial Usenet newsgroup is Usenet SPAM.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Fishking wrote:
The real question is not whether or not it's a good business
practice, the question is "What is Spam"

A commercial in a non-commercial Usenet newsgroup is Usenet SPAM.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Damn poor commercial

--
Rodney Long
SpecTastic tackle company

http://spectastictackle.com/

I Agree completely Rodney,it would be nice to get a heads up every now and
then without that person getting flamed
--
--
Chris S
Replace com with net to e-mail
---

"Rodney Long" wrote in message
...
This group could have thousands of people on it, if it didn't have the
self appointed net cops, who call "everything" about someone's web site as
being spam

The pro's I know never post to groups like this because if they mention
they are kicking butt with one of their sponsor' lures , they are called
spammers, if someone from Bass Pro shops got on here and told everyone,
hay guys check out this new lure we just started carrying, it the greatest
thing I've fished with, is run off for spamming . If some small lure
makers came on here and said guys I'm trying to develop a new lure, and I
need the groups input,, is FLAMED, and called every name in the book.

I would love to hear and see what's new in bass fishing, like the video
link that was just posted. Of course since the one giving that link is not
associated with the company, it was not spam, if the same link was posted
from someone who invented it, he would be called the lowest spammer in the
world. (it was a very good looking bait, I could care less who posted it,
it was on topic, and no one was forced to click the link)

What I think a few on here want, is they want to spend all their money
with people who don't contribute to the overall group. It's fine to talk
about any body's (company's) lures here as long as no one on the group
gets any money from the others buying that lure, that money should go to
the MEGA tackle companies who only think the members here are a $ sign,
not worth their time to even answer a question.

I'm a member of several fishing email groups, that have many times the
numbers of people than this group, they also have many people who are
members, who are also in the fishing industry. In these groups there are
no "spam cops" in the membership , and the list owners tell those in the
industry, if you have something new coming out, PLEASE let the group know
first. The reason for this is everyone in the group wants to catch more
fish.

Now if someone just started posting the same "commercial" message, about
the same product everyday, or even once a week, I'M SURE THEY WOULD BE
JUMPED. That has never happened though.

This group has lost many good contributors, because they were in the
fishing industry, they offered much more than just their products.

I've had many members from here tell me they loved some of my stuff years
ago, but where heavily flamed, or feared they would be flamed for talking
about it on this group.

--
Rodney Long
SpecTastic tackle company

http://spectastictackle.com/

Rodney Long wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Fishking wrote:
The real question is not whether or not it's a good business
practice, the question is "What is Spam"

A commercial in a non-commercial Usenet newsgroup is Usenet SPAM.

HAHAHAHAHAHA

Damn poor commercial

I agree. Beats hell out of me why anyone would do it.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Chris S" wrote in message
. ..
I Agree completely Rodney,it would be nice to get a heads up every now and
then without that person getting flamed
--

ahh Ken has nothing better to contribute to this group other than being
a spam cop. maybe he will come to the NWC and explain why he feels the need
to do it. nah he'll never come, that's tournament fishing and probably
represents everything that's wrong in this world to him. But if you do come
Ken, I'll be the first to offer you a cold beer. hell I'll even make up that
spam and eggs laminate for ya!!!..


:-) I have got to try making one just for the hell of it(the spam and
eggs laminate that is)

"Fishking" wrote in message
news:4646f7df$0$3194 :-)
I have got to try making one just for the hell of it(the spam and
eggs laminate that is)

Ok I did, and I posted it, and I have nothing better to do today it seems