Didymo

Well, actually I wanted to rile you up to do something other than yell at
each other...............

Top posted for your entertaynment!!

"Tim J." wrote in message
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PRM typed:
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I'm only being aggravating as a way of getting you guys riled up. After
that, I'll go back to lurking!!

Hellfire - all you had to do was misspell a word. . . or top post.
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TL,
Tim
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PRM wrote:


I have to say that it is somewhat amazing to me that you can say "George
Bush" or "Global Warming" around here and start a conversation that goes on
for a while. The discussion may lack rationality and even basic
intelligence, but at least people care.

Start a thread on an emerging threat to our sport and only one person cares
enough to even look it up and their respnse is NIMBY. (No offense Wolfgang,
it's the same response I get whenever I tell anyone about it, even at rivers
that are affected)

Why do we get wound up about yo yo politicos and not the sport this group
supposedly cares about?

NIMBY?

Hm.......

I've spent most of the past half century living in close proximity to
Lake Michigan, which has been subjected to a steady succession of
invasive exotic species that have caused incalculable damage. The
first thing I do on hearing of a new one is check to see whether or not
I will have to deal with it personally. That was all I had time for
earlier today. In fact, I haven't finished checking that out. Other
aspects of the issue will have to wait their turn

Aside from that, I will, for now, confine myself to pointing out that a
civil response to a question or observation is about as good as one has
any reason to expect in this place. Unless you've got an agenda that
didn't come through in your first or second messages, you'd do well to
keep that in mind.

BTW, not really expecting an answer.

I suspect that your expectations, or lack thereof, are fated to be a
matter of rapidly diminishing interest around here as, by your own
admission, they are elsewhere.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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PRM wrote:


I have to say that it is somewhat amazing to me that you can say "George
Bush" or "Global Warming" around here and start a conversation that goes
on
for a while. The discussion may lack rationality and even basic
intelligence, but at least people care.

Start a thread on an emerging threat to our sport and only one person
cares
enough to even look it up and their respnse is NIMBY. (No offense
Wolfgang,
it's the same response I get whenever I tell anyone about it, even at
rivers
that are affected)

Why do we get wound up about yo yo politicos and not the sport this group
supposedly cares about?

NIMBY?

Hm.......

I've spent most of the past half century living in close proximity to
Lake Michigan, which has been subjected to a steady succession of
invasive exotic species that have caused incalculable damage. The
first thing I do on hearing of a new one is check to see whether or not
I will have to deal with it personally. That was all I had time for
earlier today. In fact, I haven't finished checking that out. Other
aspects of the issue will have to wait their turn

Aside from that, I will, for now, confine myself to pointing out that a
civil response to a question or observation is about as good as one has
any reason to expect in this place. Unless you've got an agenda that
didn't come through in your first or second messages, you'd do well to
keep that in mind.

BTW, not really expecting an answer.

I suspect that your expectations, or lack thereof, are fated to be a
matter of rapidly diminishing interest around here as, by your own
admission, they are elsewhere.

Wolfgang

I had my phone number de-listed when I made that comment, like I said, I
have lurked here for a while!! Your response was civil and my reaction to
it was not meant to cause offense.

I also know that you are one of the serious contributors to this group and
that you will check this out. When you do, we'll all .be just a little bit
better off. I think that this is a situation that this group may be able to
do something about, at least one person at a time.

That's it!! Karl Rove has introduced Didymo into the rivers of states that
went blue in 2004 as a payback!!!

And he just arrived in Omaha with our Dem senator on the loose. We're
DOOMED!!!!
Frank Reid

"terry mcdaid" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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I suspect that your expectations, or lack thereof, are fated to be a
matter of rapidly diminishing interest around here as, by your own
admission, they are elsewhere.

Wolfgang

I had my phone number de-listed when I made that comment, like I said, I
have lurked here for a while!! Your response was civil and my reaction to
it was not meant to cause offense.

I also know that you are one of the serious contributors to this group and
that you will check this out. When you do, we'll all .be just a little
bit better off. I think that this is a situation that this group may be
able to do something about, at least one person at a time.



Yeah, I know about Didymo, and I agree wholeheartedly that that its a very
serious looming threat. Its the closest thing to river snot you can imagine,
and it clogs up the waterways of New Zealand so fast that it would make your
head spin. It starts as little spots on rocks and the substrate, but grows
into these large, slimy mats that look like wet sewerage that cover
everything. Chokes out the bugs that feed the fish, blocks out boats and
water access...pretty much destroys a watershed beyond you imagination, and
does it very quickly. The fish don't die off, but they are seriously
impacted, and fishing becomes pretty much a joke. Your retrieves are all
gummed up with this slimy, stringy, gooey mess. And it spreads like
wildfire...fishermen who have waded in a stream with didymo and who do not
disenfect their wading felts will spread it to a new watershed, dooming it.
Some of the best fisheries in NZ have been destroyed by it, and there is an
underlying resignation that neighboring watersheds are doomed. It may change
NZ fishing forever, and not for the best.

I agree with PRM that this is one thing that we should get edumacated about,
and keep on our radar screens. It makes milfoil look like child's play. But
yeah, at this point it is definatey a NIMBY sort of thing, but we all should
know about it so we can react quickly if word of it ever spreads to our
states. Its a damn shame what its doing to NZ.

--riverman

"PRM" wrote in message
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Op:

I am a long time lurker living in NC. At least I've lurked enough to have
some sort of sense for the players here.

NC Wildlife is clueless about this. Check this out instead
http://www.fedflyfishers.org/conDidymo.php

Our NC waters are what I am worried about. This stuff is in the South
Holston, and the Watauga and those guides work the Smoky Mountain streams,
the
Davidson, and the Wilson Creek area as well. Didymo has not spread beyond
the tail race waters, yet............. If the people fishing the
tailwaters don't take this seriously and spread it into our smaller
waters..............well you live here and you know the fragile state of
things as they are.

I fish the Smith River in VA regularly and I keep a separate pair of boots
for NC fishing.

I'm only being aggravating as a way of getting you guys riled up. After
that, I'll go back to lurking!!

See ya,

Patrick


As a part-time bottom poster, I will work my way up your post.

Where are we gonna see one another? I live in Lenoir and fish, primarily,
around Caldwell and its surrounding counties. Where are you in NC?

If ya go back to lurkin', you ain't helpin' ya cause a bit. Stick around
and contribute, in any manner you see fit. You'll find that the more you
participate, the better the chance that someone will get under your skin,
but your concerns for flyfishin' and the environment will also be taken
seriously--as long as ya don't go off the deep-end. You'll also provide an
invaluable source of information for others.

I wasn't sayin' that you were aggravating. I was saying that you had become
aggravated.

While I've not fished any tailwaters, I can't say that I won't in the
future, so I appreciate the heads-up.

I have the contact info for a couple of NC Wildlife biologists and will get
in touch with them to see what they know or may be doing to get the word
out.

I checked out the site you provided--see your already an invaluable source
of info--and I will inquire to the NCWRC. The more people that put the
issue before them, the better the chances are that they will pay attention,
I'm bein' an optimist!

Take care, and lets fish a trout stream some day!

Op --who was preparein' for his first year of bow huntin', but back surgery
is gonna get in the way of that, or so it appears :~^ (

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"terry mcdaid" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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Thanks, everyone, for the info, and for staying fairly objective about this
problem. I recently left my job to go back to school, aspiring to be a
fisheries biologist. Invasive species have becoma a major concern for
anglers here in west MI. It gets hard to fish when zebra muscles fray your
lines and round gobies devour the eggs and fry of game fish species. The
asian carp issue on the west shore of Lake Michigan is another great concern
here. The Muskegon river is a wonderfull tailwater to fish, and we don't
need something like Didymo ruining our river. I, for one, appreciate the
info passed here. It gives me further motivation to pursue my goal and
hopefully play a more active roll in finding solutions to these problems. I
love my river and want it to be around for awhile.

Thanks again,

Jeremy Moe

"Dawn Moe" wrote in message
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Jeremy Moe


Jeremy: are you and Dawn any relation to Diddy?

--riverman

Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:


While I've not fished any tailwaters, I can't say that I won't in the
future, so I appreciate the heads-up.



uh...isn't the catawba a tailwater?

"jeff" wrote in message
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Mr. Opus McDopus wrote:


While I've not fished any tailwaters, I can't say that I won't in the
future, so I appreciate the heads-up.


uh...isn't the catawba a tailwater?

Well excuse the hell out of me, Mr. Elephant Memory!

While I had forgotten all about those 2 trips with Wally, I don't really
consider that fishin' either, as I never caught a fish one and them damn
duck kept spoilin' our down stream fishin'.

On a lighter note. It looks as though I may have to have my back surgery
sooner than I would like to have. Doctor says permanent nerve damage is a
real possibility, and if I can't gain any hand strength back, I won't be
able to lift a dry fly much less a trout. I was hopin' to wait until the
x-mas break, so it wouldn't affect my classes, but that doesn't seem likely
now. :~^ (

No sleep Opie