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Old December 26th, 2003, 03:32 PM
Ken Fortenberry
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Hey Warren, our "secret" is out. ;-)

Nice enough read, but Cognac in paper cups ?!? Gaaack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/26/tr...es/26FISH.html

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Old December 26th, 2003, 04:19 PM
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Hey Warren, our "secret" is out. ;-)

Nice enough read, but Cognac in paper cups ?!? Gaaack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/26/tr...es/26FISH.html

Not to mention fishing with a midge larvae using a dry fly as an indicator!

It was a good article, I enjoyed it. I also enjoy winter flyfishing, and
try to get out a few times a month during the winter.

TL
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Old December 26th, 2003, 04:58 PM
Ken Fortenberry
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Tim Lysyk wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
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Nice enough read, but Cognac in paper cups ?!? Gaaack.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/26/tr...es/26FISH.html

Not to mention fishing with a midge larvae using a dry fly as an indicator!


Training wheels.

What puzzled me was his inability to fish midge emergers in the surface
film. Don't tell me you can't mimic that, I do it all the time. This
presents another opportunity for me to brag on Willi's midge emergers.
I've only got a handful left (hint, hint ;-), and they're the best damn
midge emergers I've ever used or ever seen being used.

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Old December 26th, 2003, 05:51 PM
Tim Lysyk
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Training wheels.

What puzzled me was his inability to fish midge emergers in the surface
film. Don't tell me you can't mimic that, I do it all the time. This
presents another opportunity for me to brag on Willi's midge emergers.
I've only got a handful left (hint, hint ;-), and they're the best damn
midge emergers I've ever used or ever seen being used.


What do Willi's midge emergers look like?

TL
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Old December 26th, 2003, 06:01 PM
Dave LaCourse
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Tim Lysyk writes:

What do Willi's midge emergers look like?


Yes. Pics? Recipe?





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Old December 26th, 2003, 06:18 PM
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Dave LaCourse wrote:
Tim Lysyk writes:


What do Willi's midge emergers look like?



Yes. Pics? Recipe?


I'm not sure what his "midge" emergers look like, but here's his BWO
emerger:

http://gula.org/roffswaps/recipe.php?page=FS2002&id=39

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Old December 26th, 2003, 09:11 PM
Ken Fortenberry
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rw wrote:
Dave LaCourse wrote:
Tim Lysyk writes:

What do Willi's midge emergers look like?


Yes. Pics? Recipe?


I'm not sure what his "midge" emergers look like, but here's his BWO
emerger:

http://gula.org/roffswaps/recipe.php?page=FS2002&id=39


I don't have a digital camera capable of making a decent jpeg of a
size 22 midge emerger. Well, more likely the camera is capable, but
I'm not. ;-)

Willi should be along shortly, but the midge emerger is similar
to the BWO emerger posted by rw, except it's smaller and in midge
colors, of course. I think maybe the wing is CDC instead of snowshoe
hare, but Willi will have to clear that up.

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Old December 26th, 2003, 09:54 PM
Larry L
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I like Lasher's Raccoon ( or variations) for midges. I also use ones very
similar to the BWO in the picture but I find it difficult to get and
maintain the right "half in, half out" float in smaller sizes.

One of my gifts was "Midge Magic" by Don Holbrook and Ed Koch and I've
already read it cover to cover. This has greatly increased my interest in
Penns, as the Cumberland Valley seems to be the only area the authors fish.
The book speaks of dozens and dozens of extremely slight color variations on
a basic "thread midge pupa" and continues on to talk with apparent
seriousness about size 32 hooks and 12X tippet !!!

Now I don't think any of that is of much interest, relative to my fishing,
but I DO find it a fascinating example of how human over population can
lead, indirectly, to madness G .... the streams are hammered constantly,
the fish get ultra wary, the fishermen go bonkers :-)


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Old December 26th, 2003, 09:56 PM
Tim Lysyk
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Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Willi should be along shortly, but the midge emerger is similar
to the BWO emerger posted by rw, except it's smaller and in midge
colors, of course. I think maybe the wing is CDC instead of snowshoe
hare, but Willi will have to clear that up.


Well, I've used midge emergers to imitiate BWOs, so why not use BWO
emergers to imitate midges. Thanks for the link.

TL
TL

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Old December 26th, 2003, 10:30 PM
Tom Littleton
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Larry notes of"Midge Magic"
The book speaks of dozens and dozens of extremely slight color variations on
a basic "thread midge pupa" and continues on to talk with apparent
seriousness about size 32 hooks and 12X tippet !!!


.....and is, as noted, a prime example of seeming rational types going
completely mad. Few books in the last decade ticked me off more than that one(I
own it as well, so don't be shocked if you get it as a raffle prize,
Penns-goers). Never have I seen an example of horse**** excess for no real
fishing gain in my life. No one can tell me the effectiveness of angling is
much improved by carrying or tying 80 different size 22-32 thread midge color
variations.
Basically, under it all, is a shill for certain brands of threads, flosses and
such which I will not name, and an excuse to buy lots of different shades. As
for the tippet advice, I will defer to George Harvey, who once stated that no
one needs to use anything finer than 6x, anytime, if their presentation and
leader design are correct. Most of the time, he claimed 5x would suffice, as
well as lead to quick playing and landing of trout, which is in the health
interest of the trout itself.
come to Penns,Larry,
and you will forget
about midges, at least
in late May.
Tom
 




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