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Old January 22nd, 2004, 01:32 AM
RR
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Default SW spinnerbaits


Well, after reading posts about the Secret Weapon spinnerbaits, I have
finally decided to give them a try. As if I needed more spinnerbaits, I
ordered 3 today. Got a friend of mine to order some as well so we could
order together. We each got 3 in different sizes and colors. Hoping they
will get here before the 31st so I can try them out on a local tournament
here!
At least if they work, we wont be lying to the members of our bass club when
we say we caught them on a 'secret weapon'.


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Old January 22nd, 2004, 02:15 AM
Rodney
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Default SW spinnerbaits

RR wrote:

At least if they work, we wont be lying to the members of our bass club when
we say we caught them on a 'secret weapon'.


You guys just don't understand,, you find something like this and kick
butt, in your clubs, don't tell a soul, then wonder why you can't buy
more of them in a few years, that small company has went belly up
because of not enough sales.

Or even worst, when someone else in your club mentions that they heard
about a new secret weapon,, you tell them you tried it and it stunk, all
the while your taking their money at the tourney's using it. and grinning.

The Big tackle companies can weather that storm for the few years it
takes for that hot bait to get widely known, even though every
tournament guy hides what they are winning with.

The Secret weapon is as good as it gets with spinner baits, I just hope
he can last long enough for the secret to get out. Think about that,
next time your asked what you were using


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks ,
Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long
Shot rig
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com

  #3  
Old January 22nd, 2004, 02:52 AM
Charles Summers
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Default SW spinnerbaits

You do things your way Rodney... we'll do things ours.

--
Charles B. Summers
www.secretweaponlures.com


"Rodney" wrote in message
...
RR wrote:

At least if they work, we wont be lying to the members of our bass club

when
we say we caught them on a 'secret weapon'.


You guys just don't understand,, you find something like this and kick
butt, in your clubs, don't tell a soul, then wonder why you can't buy
more of them in a few years, that small company has went belly up
because of not enough sales.

Or even worst, when someone else in your club mentions that they heard
about a new secret weapon,, you tell them you tried it and it stunk, all
the while your taking their money at the tourney's using it. and grinning.

The Big tackle companies can weather that storm for the few years it
takes for that hot bait to get widely known, even though every
tournament guy hides what they are winning with.

The Secret weapon is as good as it gets with spinner baits, I just hope
he can last long enough for the secret to get out. Think about that,
next time your asked what you were using


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks ,
Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long
Shot rig
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



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Old January 22nd, 2004, 02:51 AM
\The Shadow\
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Default SW spinnerbaits

As if your "Boomathangy" will do the same !

--
"The Shadow"
Millennium Rods
"Rodney" wrote in message
...
RR wrote:

At least if they work, we wont be lying to the members of our bass club

when
we say we caught them on a 'secret weapon'.


You guys just don't understand,, you find something like this and kick
butt, in your clubs, don't tell a soul, then wonder why you can't buy
more of them in a few years, that small company has went belly up
because of not enough sales.

Or even worst, when someone else in your club mentions that they heard
about a new secret weapon,, you tell them you tried it and it stunk, all
the while your taking their money at the tourney's using it. and grinning.

The Big tackle companies can weather that storm for the few years it
takes for that hot bait to get widely known, even though every
tournament guy hides what they are winning with.

The Secret weapon is as good as it gets with spinner baits, I just hope
he can last long enough for the secret to get out. Think about that,
next time your asked what you were using


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks ,
Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long
Shot rig
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



  #5  
Old January 22nd, 2004, 03:01 AM
RR
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Default SW spinnerbaits

Lighten up. It was a lame attempt at humor.




"Rodney" wrote in message
...
RR wrote:

At least if they work, we wont be lying to the members of our bass club

when
we say we caught them on a 'secret weapon'.


You guys just don't understand,, you find something like this and kick
butt, in your clubs, don't tell a soul, then wonder why you can't buy
more of them in a few years, that small company has went belly up
because of not enough sales.

Or even worst, when someone else in your club mentions that they heard
about a new secret weapon,, you tell them you tried it and it stunk, all
the while your taking their money at the tourney's using it. and grinning.

The Big tackle companies can weather that storm for the few years it
takes for that hot bait to get widely known, even though every
tournament guy hides what they are winning with.

The Secret weapon is as good as it gets with spinner baits, I just hope
he can last long enough for the secret to get out. Think about that,
next time your asked what you were using


--
Rodney Long,
Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks ,
Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long
Shot rig
and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com



  #6  
Old January 22nd, 2004, 01:19 PM
Craig
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Default SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?

Sorry, I don't understand all the ill will the members of this NG show Mr.
Long. I really thought he was trying to help here. I don't think he was
talking about Mr. RR's joke, rather, used it to make a point he believes to
be true.

I never had a problem with Mr. Long, Mr. Huber, Mr. Norton, Mr. Rickard,
Gill, or anyone else who produces or distributes fishing related products &
services talking about them. Yet, each has been attacked at one point or
another until they offered free product, then everyone loves them.

When attacked, people with passion for their product or ideas will attack
back, it is quite understandable. I also think that it is acceptable for
the attack, If the producer is not ready to defend their product, than how
good can it be. I consider the attack to be a test of the poster's belief.

Well, see ya, time for work.

--
Craig Baugher



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Old January 22nd, 2004, 02:02 PM
Bob La Londe
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Default SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?

"Craig" wrote in message
...
Sorry, I don't understand all the ill will the members of this NG show Mr.
Long. I really thought he was trying to help here. I don't think he was
talking about Mr. RR's joke, rather, used it to make a point he believes

to
be true.

I never had a problem with Mr. Long, Mr. Huber, Mr. Norton, Mr. Rickard,
Gill, or anyone else who produces or distributes fishing related products

&
services talking about them. Yet, each has been attacked at one point or
another until they offered free product, then everyone loves them.

When attacked, people with passion for their product or ideas will attack
back, it is quite understandable. I also think that it is acceptable for
the attack, If the producer is not ready to defend their product, than

how
good can it be. I consider the attack to be a test of the poster's

belief.

Well, see ya, time for work.

--
Craig Baugher


I'm glad you spoke up Craig. Yes, Rodney did over promote in the past, but
there is nothing wrong with his products. Sure they are gimics, but so was
the Roncomatic. It sure made a lot of money.

I can't individually evaluate any of Rodney's products, but I purchased
another knot tieing tool a tyear and a half ago for tieing leaders onto fly
line. I don't remember the store, but it was major local sporting goods
store in the Sedonna area. The tool worked. Was it easier than tieing it
on by hand. I don't know, but it did work.

As to his elastic band. I asked for a sample, and I'll try it. In fact I
have a couple spots that I think will be ideal for it were I know of solo
rocks in medium water that always seem to hold a couple uncatchable fish.

I'll play with it in the pool to see how it performs, then try it in the
real world. I think Gilbert of Mesa Tackle www.tacklesupply.com has the
perfect trick worm to put on it. I do not know if he has put it on his
website yet. As a side note. The local clubs have got a lot of product
from Gilbert, and atleast one of the local shops has put in a line of his
baits. I have had guys come to me asking if I had more of certain of his
baits.

Secret Weapon guys have done some over promoting a time or two as well. To
Joe's credit, instead of getting upset when criticized he asked for advice
on how to promote his spinner baits instead. www.secretweaponlures.com

Rodney came in here and offered to give away for free his products. Not
selling it at all. Sure he hopes to sell some through his distributors or
marketing companies, but he came in here to give stuff away. I think that
is an admirable way to promote a product.

Can you say Gilbert or Joe did any differently by having virtual
tournaments? They were giviing product away int he hopes people would love
it and buy more.

To Warren: I admire your skill and dedication to the sport, but I think you
are making a mistake by holding the past against Rodney in this case. I do
a little outdoor writing, and an occassional product review. Quite often
the products I review (since I'm not a big name writer) I have bought from a
local retail store. I welcome the opportunity to try a product for free.
Especially when the provider knows ahead of time that I will review the
product honestly. I was kinda luke warm about taking hte time to actually
do a product review of the Boomerang plastics, but after this outlashing I
will make a point of it. I will spend a couple trips out this season
specifically looking for drop shot applications and I will fish both a
regular static drop shot and one of Rodney's bungie cords. I'll use the
same hook and the same worm on both.

Now I'm certainly not in Warren's class as a bass fisherman, but I have
caught a fish or two, and my partner and I have placed well in a few
tournaments because of fish I found and/or caught. I'm sure I am capable of
bouncing two drop shots and deciding whether I catch more fish on one than
the other. So be prepared for my string of reviews on the product.

As long as we are being commercial here. Visit my website. Post your
website in my link index. FOR FREE.

--
Bob La Londe
www.YumaBassMan.com
All about fishing in Yuma, Arizona
Promote Your Fishing Website FOR FREE


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Old January 22nd, 2004, 03:23 PM
AJH
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Default SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?

I see items spammed here, but all seem ok but none are super special,
the rods look very good, the SW seems to be ok, Gil's plastic's are well
made ( they looked better 4 years ago) but none are worth all the
insults thrown about..
"product evaluation" is a bunch of BS, is one brand crankbait better
than another? do bass care who made it?





I fish therefore I lie

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Old January 23rd, 2004, 08:32 AM
Calif Bill
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Default SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?


"Craig" wrote in message
...
Sorry, I don't understand all the ill will the members of this NG show Mr.
Long. I really thought he was trying to help here. I don't think he was
talking about Mr. RR's joke, rather, used it to make a point he believes

to
be true.

I never had a problem with Mr. Long, Mr. Huber, Mr. Norton, Mr. Rickard,
Gill, or anyone else who produces or distributes fishing related products

&
services talking about them. Yet, each has been attacked at one point or
another until they offered free product, then everyone loves them.

When attacked, people with passion for their product or ideas will attack
back, it is quite understandable. I also think that it is acceptable for
the attack, If the producer is not ready to defend their product, than

how
good can it be. I consider the attack to be a test of the poster's

belief.

Well, see ya, time for work.

--
Craig Baugher




I think it was the way Rodney went about pushing his rubber string. The I
am so f'n great, I have invented the best thing in the world for fishing,
and you guys are jealous because I am going to make more money off this than
you can even dream of. Great gimmick idea. Tourney winner? maybe once in
a while. But luck also plays big in a tourney besides skill. When you have
less than 6 oz separating the top people in a tourney, luck played a big
part. But the fact that those pros consistantly weigh in near limits is
also skill. If the bungee was that good, John Kerr and the other pros would
be using it 50%. Every FLW would have TV shots of the bungee. Well in
between the Banjo minner catching fish shots Secret Weapon was pretty
low key as well as Mesa Baits. Mesa may have been a little more vocal, but
still not in your face. Rodney was in your face for months. I do not see
how it would be much better than dropshot fishing with shaking, which is
pretty much what the thing does. Me, who is not one of the better LMB
fisherman, still catches most of my fish on the Drop Shot. Spinner baits
are not my strong point, but I think I know why after a session with a local
pro. Me: To much splash, and figuring the spinner bait will get bit all the
way back to the boat. He pitches the bait with near zero splash & figures
if no bite in the first 5 cranks, rip it back to the boat and pitch again.
Bill


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Old January 23rd, 2004, 03:59 PM
Robert
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Default SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?

Ok! God bless Rodney!
"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Craig" wrote in message
...
Sorry, I don't understand all the ill will the members of this NG show

Mr.
Long. I really thought he was trying to help here. I don't think he

was
talking about Mr. RR's joke, rather, used it to make a point he believes

to
be true.

I never had a problem with Mr. Long, Mr. Huber, Mr. Norton, Mr. Rickard,
Gill, or anyone else who produces or distributes fishing related

products
&
services talking about them. Yet, each has been attacked at one point

or
another until they offered free product, then everyone loves them.

When attacked, people with passion for their product or ideas will

attack
back, it is quite understandable. I also think that it is acceptable

for
the attack, If the producer is not ready to defend their product, than

how
good can it be. I consider the attack to be a test of the poster's

belief.

Well, see ya, time for work.

--
Craig Baugher




I think it was the way Rodney went about pushing his rubber string. The I
am so f'n great, I have invented the best thing in the world for fishing,
and you guys are jealous because I am going to make more money off this

than
you can even dream of. Great gimmick idea. Tourney winner? maybe once

in
a while. But luck also plays big in a tourney besides skill. When you

have
less than 6 oz separating the top people in a tourney, luck played a big
part. But the fact that those pros consistantly weigh in near limits is
also skill. If the bungee was that good, John Kerr and the other pros

would
be using it 50%. Every FLW would have TV shots of the bungee. Well in
between the Banjo minner catching fish shots Secret Weapon was pretty
low key as well as Mesa Baits. Mesa may have been a little more vocal,

but
still not in your face. Rodney was in your face for months. I do not

see
how it would be much better than dropshot fishing with shaking, which is
pretty much what the thing does. Me, who is not one of the better LMB
fisherman, still catches most of my fish on the Drop Shot. Spinner baits
are not my strong point, but I think I know why after a session with a

local
pro. Me: To much splash, and figuring the spinner bait will get bit all

the
way back to the boat. He pitches the bait with near zero splash & figures
if no bite in the first 5 cranks, rip it back to the boat and pitch again.
Bill




 




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