Self-Sufficiency in Style

Retired now, I write the above website purely for fun. It has been going for
about three years.

It attracts a worldwide audience and has become surprisingly successful. Try
typing in Self-Sufficiency in Google.

A trip to Ireland caused me to think about sea fishing - not a subject I'm
over familiar with.

You can see the results of a first article on "Fishy Alternatives"
http://pages.britishlibrary.net/patgardiner/fish.htm

Can anyone give me hand with a follow up? The location will be general -
Britain, Ireland, US, Canada, NZ.

How would you set about changing from raising your own meat to catching your
own fish. Can it be done? What would you need to do? Are there licensing
considerations? Can you collect shellfish freely? Will a rod and line from
the beach be enough or will you need a boat?

Any help greatly appreciated...where appropriate, I'll be glad to credit on
the page or even, for any able writers, add a separate article.

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com.

back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Retired now, I write the above website purely for fun. It has been going
for
about three years.

It attracts a worldwide audience and has become surprisingly successful.
Try
typing in Self-Sufficiency in Google.

A trip to Ireland caused me to think about sea fishing - not a subject I'm
over familiar with.

You can see the results of a first article on "Fishy Alternatives"
http://pages.britishlibrary.net/patgardiner/fish.htm

Can anyone give me hand with a follow up? The location will be general -
Britain, Ireland, US, Canada, NZ.

How would you set about changing from raising your own meat to catching
your
own fish. Can it be done? What would you need to do? Are there licensing
considerations? Can you collect shellfish freely? Will a rod and line from
the beach be enough or will you need a boat?

Any help greatly appreciated...where appropriate, I'll be glad to credit
on
the page or even, for any able writers, add a separate article.

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com.

Ah Ha, are you refering to the unusual use of the adjective "pacific" to
describe what was called the Western Approaches" when I was a boy.

Now they call it something PC like "Celtic Sea" don't they?

I did wonder if the adjective was wise, but after a few days on the west
coast staring at Atlantic breakers, "pacific" fitted the bill for very
placid sea.

Come on now lads! A rod, a line and a nice shore, can I feed myself?

or are you all escaping from the domestic life and living on hope?

I did see notices limiting the catch to two sea bass, or was that a tourist
trap for the gullable?

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...



back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


snip

I bow to experience (& age)just be glad you was in Ireland cos if you was in
England or Wales & looking to survive you would be brown bread by now



"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Ah Ha, are you refering to the unusual use of the adjective "pacific" to
describe what was called the Western Approaches" when I was a boy.

Now they call it something PC like "Celtic Sea" don't they?

I did wonder if the adjective was wise, but after a few days on the west
coast staring at Atlantic breakers, "pacific" fitted the bill for very
placid sea.

Come on now lads! A rod, a line and a nice shore, can I feed myself?

or are you all escaping from the domestic life and living on hope?

I did see notices limiting the catch to two sea bass, or was that a
tourist
trap for the gullable?

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...



back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


snip

Why?

I have not even been fishing. I asked some questions. You are being very
cryptic.

I'm not talking about buying a trawler, that I can understand might cause a
few minor problems chuckle or even suggesting selling any of the catch.

Are you saying that I have suggested something illegal?

Regards
Pat Gardiner


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...
I bow to experience (& age)just be glad you was in Ireland cos if you was
in
England or Wales & looking to survive you would be brown bread by now



"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Ah Ha, are you refering to the unusual use of the adjective "pacific" to
describe what was called the Western Approaches" when I was a boy.

Now they call it something PC like "Celtic Sea" don't they?

I did wonder if the adjective was wise, but after a few days on the west
coast staring at Atlantic breakers, "pacific" fitted the bill for very
placid sea.

Come on now lads! A rod, a line and a nice shore, can I feed myself?

or are you all escaping from the domestic life and living on hope?

I did see notices limiting the catch to two sea bass, or was that a
tourist
trap for the gullable?

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...



back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


snip

Why?

I have not even been fishing. I asked some questions. You are being very
cryptic.

I'm not talking about buying a trawler, that I can understand might cause a
few minor problems chuckle or even suggesting selling any of the catch.

Are you saying that I have suggested something illegal?

Regards
Pat Gardiner


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...
I bow to experience (& age)just be glad you was in Ireland cos if you was
in
England or Wales & looking to survive you would be brown bread by now



"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Ah Ha, are you refering to the unusual use of the adjective "pacific" to
describe what was called the Western Approaches" when I was a boy.

Now they call it something PC like "Celtic Sea" don't they?

I did wonder if the adjective was wise, but after a few days on the west
coast staring at Atlantic breakers, "pacific" fitted the bill for very
placid sea.

Come on now lads! A rod, a line and a nice shore, can I feed myself?

or are you all escaping from the domestic life and living on hope?

I did see notices limiting the catch to two sea bass, or was that a
tourist
trap for the gullable?

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...



back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


snip

No - I think he was merely implying that using a rod & line off the UK coast
would certainly not guarantee you enough to eat these days. You might get by
in the summer (unless you're allergic to mackerel), but you'd get pretty
damn thin in the winter
"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Why?

I have not even been fishing. I asked some questions. You are being very
cryptic.

I'm not talking about buying a trawler, that I can understand might cause
a
few minor problems chuckle or even suggesting selling any of the catch.

Are you saying that I have suggested something illegal?

Regards
Pat Gardiner


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...
I bow to experience (& age)just be glad you was in Ireland cos if you
was
in
England or Wales & looking to survive you would be brown bread by now



"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Ah Ha, are you refering to the unusual use of the adjective "pacific"
to
describe what was called the Western Approaches" when I was a boy.

Now they call it something PC like "Celtic Sea" don't they?

I did wonder if the adjective was wise, but after a few days on the
west
coast staring at Atlantic breakers, "pacific" fitted the bill for very
placid sea.

Come on now lads! A rod, a line and a nice shore, can I feed myself?

or are you all escaping from the domestic life and living on hope?

I did see notices limiting the catch to two sea bass, or was that a
tourist
trap for the gullable?

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...



back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


snip

No - I think he was merely implying that using a rod & line off the UK coast
would certainly not guarantee you enough to eat these days. You might get by
in the summer (unless you're allergic to mackerel), but you'd get pretty
damn thin in the winter
"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Why?

I have not even been fishing. I asked some questions. You are being very
cryptic.

I'm not talking about buying a trawler, that I can understand might cause
a
few minor problems chuckle or even suggesting selling any of the catch.

Are you saying that I have suggested something illegal?

Regards
Pat Gardiner


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...
I bow to experience (& age)just be glad you was in Ireland cos if you
was
in
England or Wales & looking to survive you would be brown bread by now



"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Ah Ha, are you refering to the unusual use of the adjective "pacific"
to
describe what was called the Western Approaches" when I was a boy.

Now they call it something PC like "Celtic Sea" don't they?

I did wonder if the adjective was wise, but after a few days on the
west
coast staring at Atlantic breakers, "pacific" fitted the bill for very
placid sea.

Come on now lads! A rod, a line and a nice shore, can I feed myself?

or are you all escaping from the domestic life and living on hope?

I did see notices limiting the catch to two sea bass, or was that a
tourist
trap for the gullable?

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...



back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


snip

Right. Understood thanks.Appreciated. I thought the beggars were all under
the pier hiding from Spanish trawlers.

I was at Felixstowe for many years and the office junior used to bring me in
magnificant cod to make up for the matchsticks holding his eyes open. Times
change.

I suppose you would need a small boat - and that would simply increase the
expense but not the catch?

Regards
Pat Gardiner


"Tony Wickham" wrote in message
...
No - I think he was merely implying that using a rod & line off the UK
coast
would certainly not guarantee you enough to eat these days. You might get
by
in the summer (unless you're allergic to mackerel), but you'd get pretty
damn thin in the winter
"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Why?

I have not even been fishing. I asked some questions. You are being very
cryptic.

I'm not talking about buying a trawler, that I can understand might
cause
a
few minor problems chuckle or even suggesting selling any of the
catch.

Are you saying that I have suggested something illegal?

Regards
Pat Gardiner


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...
I bow to experience (& age)just be glad you was in Ireland cos if you
was
in
England or Wales & looking to survive you would be brown bread by now



"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Ah Ha, are you refering to the unusual use of the adjective
"pacific"
to
describe what was called the Western Approaches" when I was a boy.

Now they call it something PC like "Celtic Sea" don't they?

I did wonder if the adjective was wise, but after a few days on the
west
coast staring at Atlantic breakers, "pacific" fitted the bill for
very
placid sea.

Come on now lads! A rod, a line and a nice shore, can I feed myself?

or are you all escaping from the domestic life and living on hope?

I did see notices limiting the catch to two sea bass, or was that a
tourist
trap for the gullable?

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...



back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


snip

Right. Understood thanks.Appreciated. I thought the beggars were all under
the pier hiding from Spanish trawlers.

I was at Felixstowe for many years and the office junior used to bring me in
magnificant cod to make up for the matchsticks holding his eyes open. Times
change.

I suppose you would need a small boat - and that would simply increase the
expense but not the catch?

Regards
Pat Gardiner


"Tony Wickham" wrote in message
...
No - I think he was merely implying that using a rod & line off the UK
coast
would certainly not guarantee you enough to eat these days. You might get
by
in the summer (unless you're allergic to mackerel), but you'd get pretty
damn thin in the winter
"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Why?

I have not even been fishing. I asked some questions. You are being very
cryptic.

I'm not talking about buying a trawler, that I can understand might
cause
a
few minor problems chuckle or even suggesting selling any of the
catch.

Are you saying that I have suggested something illegal?

Regards
Pat Gardiner


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...
I bow to experience (& age)just be glad you was in Ireland cos if you
was
in
England or Wales & looking to survive you would be brown bread by now



"Pat Gardiner" wrote in message
...
Ah Ha, are you refering to the unusual use of the adjective
"pacific"
to
describe what was called the Western Approaches" when I was a boy.

Now they call it something PC like "Celtic Sea" don't they?

I did wonder if the adjective was wise, but after a few days on the
west
coast staring at Atlantic breakers, "pacific" fitted the bill for
very
placid sea.

Come on now lads! A rod, a line and a nice shore, can I feed myself?

or are you all escaping from the domestic life and living on hope?

I did see notices limiting the catch to two sea bass, or was that a
tourist
trap for the gullable?

Regards
Pat Gardiner
www.go-self-sufficient.com


"Cliff Ravenscroft" wrote in message
...



back down to the Pacific coast!!!!!!! I dont think so


snip