Fun tying flies (TR, as it were)

""Hooked"" wrote in message
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"riverman" wrote in message
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Yeah, me too! I've already been hoarding lots of feathers for that.
African Grey tail feathers (actually, available in many fly shops, but I
find them on the ground), some wonderful fluorescent blue feathers from a
tiny local bird, some iridescent white wing feathers from a local
blackbird thing, and some hair from all sorts of critters (wildebeests,
kudu, bushbuck, wild boar, zebra, giraffe, elephant tail, etc)

--riverman


If you leave the Congo, how many of those materials you mentioned would
suddenly become illegal exotics if you enter another country??????


That certainly depends on what country I go into, but for many countries, I
believe that I can bring in almost anything as long as I
a) declare it at the border
b) prove that I obtained it legally in whatever country I got it
c) leave that country with it when I go.

For example, I have heard that you can have certain banned items, such as
Ivory and eagle feathers, in the US if you prove you obtained them legally
in other countries, and do not sell them.

That being said, I just won't declare them. I have so many trinkets that are
illegal in so many different places that my tying kit is a drop in the
bucket. Hell, my portable walkie-talkie is illegal HERE.

--riverman

"riverman" wrote in message
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""Hooked"" wrote in message


If you leave the Congo, how many of those materials you mentioned would
suddenly become illegal exotics if you enter another country??????


That certainly depends on what country I go into, but for many countries,
I believe that I can bring in almost anything as long as I
a) declare it at the border
b) prove that I obtained it legally in whatever country I got it
c) leave that country with it when I go.

For example, I have heard that you can have certain banned items, such
as Ivory and eagle feathers, in the US if you prove you obtained them
legally in other countries, and do not sell them.

After some research, I find that I might be very, very, very wrong in what I
wrote above. Anyone got any input?

--riverman
(who seems to have a tying kit full of suprises...)

"riverman" wrote in message
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""Hooked"" wrote in message


If you leave the Congo, how many of those materials you mentioned would
suddenly become illegal exotics if you enter another country??????


That certainly depends on what country I go into, but for many countries,
I believe that I can bring in almost anything as long as I
a) declare it at the border
b) prove that I obtained it legally in whatever country I got it
c) leave that country with it when I go.

For example, I have heard that you can have certain banned items, such
as Ivory and eagle feathers, in the US if you prove you obtained them
legally in other countries, and do not sell them.

After some research, I find that I might be very, very, very wrong in what I
wrote above. Anyone got any input?

--riverman
(who seems to have a tying kit full of suprises...)

I am curious - what's the title of the *new book*?



On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:32:00 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

Not a question, but just an brief introspective post.

I've passed through some sort of psychological barrier in fly tying, and
suddenly its gone from something merely interesting to something I am
really, really enjoying! As I stated here before, I got this new book, and
after a first glance I thought I might have enough diverse materials so that
I could tie up a few patterns. But now, each night, I really look forward to
trying out all sorts of patterns, and am loving every minute of it.

I've been whipping out very nice replicas in multiple sizes of the standards
(Wolly buggers, GRHE, PTs) as well as Humpies of various colors, Skip
Nymphs, soft hackles, Teeny Nymphs, Adamses, Coachmen, Griffiths Gnats,
RedTails, Baetis nymphs, flymphs and more.

I dunno, its like somthing just clicked, and I just discovered what a great
pasttime tying really is, and wanted to share! Let's have a swap soon!

--riverman
(gotta get some more hooks!)

I am curious - what's the title of the *new book*?



On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:32:00 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

Not a question, but just an brief introspective post.

I've passed through some sort of psychological barrier in fly tying, and
suddenly its gone from something merely interesting to something I am
really, really enjoying! As I stated here before, I got this new book, and
after a first glance I thought I might have enough diverse materials so that
I could tie up a few patterns. But now, each night, I really look forward to
trying out all sorts of patterns, and am loving every minute of it.

I've been whipping out very nice replicas in multiple sizes of the standards
(Wolly buggers, GRHE, PTs) as well as Humpies of various colors, Skip
Nymphs, soft hackles, Teeny Nymphs, Adamses, Coachmen, Griffiths Gnats,
RedTails, Baetis nymphs, flymphs and more.

I dunno, its like somthing just clicked, and I just discovered what a great
pasttime tying really is, and wanted to share! Let's have a swap soon!

--riverman
(gotta get some more hooks!)

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:32:00 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

"hermit" wrote in message
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Not a question, but just an brief introspective post.

I've passed through some sort of psychological barrier in fly tying, and
suddenly its gone from something merely interesting to something I am
really, really enjoying! As I stated here before, I got this new book, and
after a first glance I thought I might have enough diverse materials so
that
I could tie up a few patterns. But now, each night, I really look forward
to
trying out all sorts of patterns, and am loving every minute of it.

I've been whipping out very nice replicas in multiple sizes of the
standards
(Wolly buggers, GRHE, PTs) as well as Humpies of various colors, Skip
Nymphs, soft hackles, Teeny Nymphs, Adamses, Coachmen, Griffiths Gnats,
RedTails, Baetis nymphs, flymphs and more.

I dunno, its like somthing just clicked, and I just discovered what a
great
pasttime tying really is, and wanted to share! Let's have a swap soon!

--riverman
(gotta get some more hooks!)



I am curious - what's the title of the *new book*?

"The Fly Tying Bible" by Peter Gathercole. I posted about it on roff.

--riverman

I have the book, as well as others, and I think it's the best of the
bunch.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:15:54 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:


On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:32:00 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

"hermit" wrote in message
.. .

Not a question, but just an brief introspective post.

I've passed through some sort of psychological barrier in fly tying, and
suddenly its gone from something merely interesting to something I am
really, really enjoying! As I stated here before, I got this new book, and
after a first glance I thought I might have enough diverse materials so
that
I could tie up a few patterns. But now, each night, I really look forward
to
trying out all sorts of patterns, and am loving every minute of it.

I've been whipping out very nice replicas in multiple sizes of the
standards
(Wolly buggers, GRHE, PTs) as well as Humpies of various colors, Skip
Nymphs, soft hackles, Teeny Nymphs, Adamses, Coachmen, Griffiths Gnats,
RedTails, Baetis nymphs, flymphs and more.

I dunno, its like somthing just clicked, and I just discovered what a
great
pasttime tying really is, and wanted to share! Let's have a swap soon!

--riverman
(gotta get some more hooks!)



I am curious - what's the title of the *new book*?

"The Fly Tying Bible" by Peter Gathercole. I posted about it on roff.

--riverman

I have the book, as well as others, and I think it's the best of the
bunch.

On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 16:15:54 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:


On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 15:32:00 +0100, "riverman"
wrote:

"hermit" wrote in message
.. .

Not a question, but just an brief introspective post.

I've passed through some sort of psychological barrier in fly tying, and
suddenly its gone from something merely interesting to something I am
really, really enjoying! As I stated here before, I got this new book, and
after a first glance I thought I might have enough diverse materials so
that
I could tie up a few patterns. But now, each night, I really look forward
to
trying out all sorts of patterns, and am loving every minute of it.

I've been whipping out very nice replicas in multiple sizes of the
standards
(Wolly buggers, GRHE, PTs) as well as Humpies of various colors, Skip
Nymphs, soft hackles, Teeny Nymphs, Adamses, Coachmen, Griffiths Gnats,
RedTails, Baetis nymphs, flymphs and more.

I dunno, its like somthing just clicked, and I just discovered what a
great
pasttime tying really is, and wanted to share! Let's have a swap soon!

--riverman
(gotta get some more hooks!)



I am curious - what's the title of the *new book*?

"The Fly Tying Bible" by Peter Gathercole. I posted about it on roff.

--riverman

For example, I have heard that you can have certain banned items, such
as Ivory and eagle feathers, in the US if you prove you obtained them
legally in other countries, and do not sell them.


After some research, I find that I might be very, very, very wrong in what I
wrote above. Anyone got any input?

Yes, you are right... you WERE wrong. =)

Many items protected under the CITES Treaty are legal to obtain and own
in one country, but not in others, and the US is one of those others for
the fur and feathers of most protected and endangered animals,
irrespective of how you have come to be in possession of it. That said,
there *ARE* exceptions as well...

The recommendation is "the less said, the better" and rather than
clearly identifying many of the materials, leave them unlabeled and
plead ignorance. In an election year, there's more than enough
ignorance to go around, so you might get away with it.

Larry

"Larry Medina" wrote in message
. com...

For example, I have heard that you can have certain banned items, such
as Ivory and eagle feathers, in the US if you prove you obtained them
legally in other countries, and do not sell them.


After some research, I find that I might be very, very, very wrong in
what I
wrote above. Anyone got any input?

Yes, you are right... you WERE wrong. =)

Many items protected under the CITES Treaty are legal to obtain and own
in one country, but not in others, and the US is one of those others for
the fur and feathers of most protected and endangered animals,
irrespective of how you have come to be in possession of it. That said,
there *ARE* exceptions as well...

The recommendation is "the less said, the better" and rather than
clearly identifying many of the materials, leave them unlabeled and
plead ignorance. In an election year, there's more than enough
ignorance to go around, so you might get away with it.

Larry

I was going to say, last I heard, you absolutely can not bring a leopard
hide, for example, into the US. Makes no difeerence if it was legally
obtained or not.

jh