first day with orvis waders

I ordered the silver label 2 waders from orvis in the afternoon on
tuesday, and first thing wednesday morning UPS knocked on my door with
my orvis waders.

Comments:
Pro: booties are high density neoprene, and are alot more durable than
the regular neoprene on my old ADG waders. Waders are 5 layer protected
and are alot more durable than previous ADG waders.

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:26:35 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

I ordered the silver label 2 waders from orvis in the afternoon on
tuesday, and first thing wednesday morning UPS knocked on my door with
my orvis waders.

Comments:
Pro: booties are high density neoprene, and are alot more durable than
the regular neoprene on my old ADG waders. Waders are 5 layer protected
and are alot more durable than previous ADG waders.

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

otoh...

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream. In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.

If the openings *weren't* there such that the knee patches were intentionally
sealed closed, and a patch got a small hole in it (not unreasonable) then
there might be an actual problem to complain about...

/daytripper ()

From: daytripper

On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:26:35 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream.

In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that
still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.


Yup, the slit is there to allow the water to drain. Haven't had a problem with
mine.


George Adams

"All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of
youth that doth not grow stale with age."
---- J.W Muller

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream.

In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that
still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.


Yup, the slit is there to allow the water to drain. Haven't had a problem with
mine.

If you have "thick" legs, the slits tend to act like a dam. A
little adjustment does the trick!

On 06 May 2004 22:41:36 GMT, ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: daytripper

On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:26:35 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream.

In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that
still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.


Yup, the slit is there to allow the water to drain. Haven't had a problem with
mine.

It just dawned on me that perhaps Mr. Sullivan's waders have the knee patches
sewn on up-side-down, so that the "v" notch is above the knee instead of
below.

If that's the case, I can see how they could fill up and retain water out of
the stream, which might even rise to the level of "aggravating"...

/daytripper (...and if it is the case, take 'em back for a replacement...)

In article ,
ojunk (George Adams) wrote:

From: daytripper

On Thu, 06 May 2004 21:26:35 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

I've been using Silver Labels for a few years now. I noticed those openings,
but I don't ever recall any measurable amount of water holding behind the
patches once I've hauled out of the stream.

In fact I believe they are there
specifically to avoid water being retained behind the patches - and that
still
seems to have been a good design decision to me.


Yup, the slit is there to allow the water to drain. Haven't had a problem with
mine.

You are right, once I get out of the water they drain no problem. The
problem is having to wade around with a big heavy bunch of water in your
waders. Maybe I will upgrade to the pro guides.

In article ,
daytripper wrote:

It just dawned on me that perhaps Mr. Sullivan's waders have the knee patches
sewn on up-side-down, so that the "v" notch is above the knee instead of
below.

If that's the case, I can see how they could fill up and retain water out of
the stream, which might even rise to the level of "aggravating"...

/daytripper (...and if it is the case, take 'em back for a replacement...)

Nope, the slit is on the bottom of the patch. The problem is the space
gets completely filled with water, which adds a considerable ammount of
weight, and being in the water for several hours having to wade around
with it is kind of a pain. I will probably just send them back and get
the pro guides, which I have been told dont retain water.

On Fri, 07 May 2004 02:46:52 GMT, Steve Sullivan wrote:

In article ,
daytripper wrote:

It just dawned on me that perhaps Mr. Sullivan's waders have the knee patches
sewn on up-side-down, so that the "v" notch is above the knee instead of
below.

If that's the case, I can see how they could fill up and retain water out of
the stream, which might even rise to the level of "aggravating"...

/daytripper (...and if it is the case, take 'em back for a replacement...)

Nope, the slit is on the bottom of the patch. The problem is the space
gets completely filled with water, which adds a considerable ammount of
weight, and being in the water for several hours having to wade around
with it is kind of a pain.

Interesting. For the years I've been using them, I've never noticed this as
being an issue, but perhaps I'm not the most sensitive guy around ;-)

I will probably just send them back and get the pro guides, which
I have been told dont retain water.

Let us know how you make out with them if you do...

/daytripper

"Steve Sullivan" wrote in message The
problem is having to wade around with a big heavy bunch of water in your
waders. Maybe I will upgrade to the pro guides

So it's heavier than the water surrounding it? The extra resistance must be
what's bugging you.

bruce h

On Thu, 6 May 2004, Steve Sullivan wrote:

Cons: A big one, the knee patch's have a slit on the front that allows
water to fill up the whole patch. VERY VERY annoying. I hope Orvis
fixes this "design".

Well it's been 4 years and they still haven't. Every so often I have to
stand on one leg and bend the other knee to drain the water, looking like
a guy imitating a ****ing dog.

Mu