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A Reel Choice
Given the opportunity and the right quality of fish I like to play fish on
the reel. I'm looking at the Modula large arbor disc drag and the Orvis Rocky Mountain large arbor. Has anyone any experience of using either reel and if so, what is the drag like? Thanks. Allan |
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A Reel Choice
In article , allan.lambert
writes Given the opportunity and the right quality of fish I like to play fish on the reel. I'm looking at the Modula large arbor disc drag and the Orvis Rocky Mountain large arbor. Has anyone any experience of using either reel and if so, what is the drag like? Thanks. Allan Hi Allan, I don't wish to dampen your enthusiasm, but a reel is a device to hold your fishing line - nothing more nothing less. I've no idea how much you want to spend, but I'm sure that there are plenty of excellent reels on the market for just a few quid that will do all you want and you'll have money to spare for something else. I have just purchased a mill end line for £4 - not as good as Cortland 444 but does the job well enough. The reel I bought to go with it is a Shakespeare Summit which cost me £12 at the Welsh Game fair. I usually use BFR Rimfly reels and they are only a bit more expensive. I'm sorry if I haven't answered your question, but maybe have given you some food for thought. -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk |
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A Reel Choice
In article , allan.lambert
writes Given the opportunity and the right quality of fish I like to play fish on the reel. I'm looking at the Modula large arbor disc drag and the Orvis Rocky Mountain large arbor. Has anyone any experience of using either reel and if so, what is the drag like? Thanks. Allan Hi Allan, I don't wish to dampen your enthusiasm, but a reel is a device to hold your fishing line - nothing more nothing less. I've no idea how much you want to spend, but I'm sure that there are plenty of excellent reels on the market for just a few quid that will do all you want and you'll have money to spare for something else. I have just purchased a mill end line for £4 - not as good as Cortland 444 but does the job well enough. The reel I bought to go with it is a Shakespeare Summit which cost me £12 at the Welsh Game fair. I usually use BFR Rimfly reels and they are only a bit more expensive. I'm sorry if I haven't answered your question, but maybe have given you some food for thought. -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk |
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A Reel Choice
In article , allan.lambert
writes Given the opportunity and the right quality of fish I like to play fish on the reel. I'm looking at the Modula large arbor disc drag and the Orvis Rocky Mountain large arbor. Has anyone any experience of using either reel and if so, what is the drag like? Thanks. Allan Best done with a multiplier, like the old Intrepid reels (sadly no longer available). Their rate of retrieve is far better than the large arbor reels. -- John Lloyd, West Midlands, UK. |
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A Reel Choice
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writes I wouldn't necessarily agree with the "nothing more" bit. I mostly fish reservoirs. This involves long casting and if you get a take close in on the retrieve you can have 20+ yds of line around your feet. No problem with small fish but with large fish it's far safer to get the spare line on the reel - fast - or you are in serious risk of a tangle with loss of the fish. A large diameter reel is a big advantage. The reservoir I fish has rainbows/browns/blue trout all well into double figures. I wouldn't like to fish it with a small diameter reel. I use the "old" Dragonfly 120 reel. Conversely I fish the river with a small antique wooden reel that just takes a 4# line - just for the hell of it. Well Keith, you have to agree that even a larger diameter reel is still only a device to hold the fly line. The question of what type of arbor you use is a matter of opinion, and I can categorically say that several acquaintances of mine who fish in the Welsh Fly Fishing team use Wide reels rather than larger arbor reels per se. Of course the wider reels may well have larger diameter arbor anyway. This could easily be achieved by using more backing. If you really want to get your line in quickly why not use a multiplying fly reel in which one turn of the handle turns the spool two an a half times like the old Shakespeare Speedex. -- Bill Grey http://www.billboy.co.uk |
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A Reel Choice
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:32:44 +0100, "W. D. Grey"
wrote: In article , allan.lambert writes Given the opportunity and the right quality of fish I like to play fish on the reel. I'm looking at the Modula large arbor disc drag and the Orvis Rocky Mountain large arbor. Has anyone any experience of using either reel and if so, what is the drag like? Thanks. Allan Hi Allan, I don't wish to dampen your enthusiasm, but a reel is a device to hold your fishing line - nothing more nothing less. I've no idea how much you want to spend, but I'm sure that there are plenty of excellent reels on the market for just a few quid that will do all you want and you'll have money to spare for something else. I have just purchased a mill end line for £4 - not as good as Cortland 444 but does the job well enough. The reel I bought to go with it is a Shakespeare Summit which cost me £12 at the Welsh Game fair. I usually use BFR Rimfly reels and they are only a bit more expensive. I'm sorry if I haven't answered your question, but maybe have given you some food for thought I wouldn't necessarily agree with the "nothing more" bit. I mostly fish reservoirs. This involves long casting and if you get a take close in on the retrieve you can have 20+ yds of line around your feet. No problem with small fish but with large fish it's far safer to get the spare line on the reel - fast - or you are in serious risk of a tangle with loss of the fish. A large diameter reel is a big advantage. The reservoir I fish has rainbows/browns/blue trout all well into double figures. I wouldn't like to fish it with a small diameter reel. I use the "old" Dragonfly 120 reel. Conversely I fish the river with a small antique wooden reel that just takes a 4# line - just for the hell of it. Keith |
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A Reel Choice
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 20:32:44 +0100, "W. D. Grey"
wrote: In article , allan.lambert writes Given the opportunity and the right quality of fish I like to play fish on the reel. I'm looking at the Modula large arbor disc drag and the Orvis Rocky Mountain large arbor. Has anyone any experience of using either reel and if so, what is the drag like? Thanks. Allan Hi Allan, I don't wish to dampen your enthusiasm, but a reel is a device to hold your fishing line - nothing more nothing less. I've no idea how much you want to spend, but I'm sure that there are plenty of excellent reels on the market for just a few quid that will do all you want and you'll have money to spare for something else. I have just purchased a mill end line for £4 - not as good as Cortland 444 but does the job well enough. The reel I bought to go with it is a Shakespeare Summit which cost me £12 at the Welsh Game fair. I usually use BFR Rimfly reels and they are only a bit more expensive. I'm sorry if I haven't answered your question, but maybe have given you some food for thought I wouldn't necessarily agree with the "nothing more" bit. I mostly fish reservoirs. This involves long casting and if you get a take close in on the retrieve you can have 20+ yds of line around your feet. No problem with small fish but with large fish it's far safer to get the spare line on the reel - fast - or you are in serious risk of a tangle with loss of the fish. A large diameter reel is a big advantage. The reservoir I fish has rainbows/browns/blue trout all well into double figures. I wouldn't like to fish it with a small diameter reel. I use the "old" Dragonfly 120 reel. Conversely I fish the river with a small antique wooden reel that just takes a 4# line - just for the hell of it. Keith |
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"W. D. Grey" wrote in message ... In article , laxhill writes I wouldn't necessarily agree with the "nothing more" bit. I mostly fish reservoirs. This involves long casting and if you get a take close in on the retrieve you can have 20+ yds of line around your feet. No problem with small fish but with large fish it's far safer to get the spare line on the reel - fast - or you are in serious risk of a tangle with loss of the fish. A large diameter reel is a big advantage. The reservoir I fish has rainbows/browns/blue trout all well into double figures. I wouldn't like to fish it with a small diameter reel. I use the "old" Dragonfly 120 reel. Conversely I fish the river with a small antique wooden reel that just takes a 4# line - just for the hell of it. Well Keith, you have to agree that even a larger diameter reel is still only a device to hold the fly line. The question of what type of arbor you use is a matter of opinion, and I can categorically say that several acquaintances of mine who fish in the Welsh Fly Fishing team use Wide reels rather than larger arbor reels per se. Of course the wider reels may well have larger diameter arbor anyway. This could easily be achieved by using more backing. If you really want to get your line in quickly why not use a multiplying fly reel in which one turn of the handle turns the spool two an a half times like the old Shakespeare Speedex. -- Good advice. I have a Battenkill multiplier that gets the line back onto the reel tout vite. For most fish I don't bother too much with drag systems, and for trouting with my 3lb tippets I don't bother with drag at all. The manually applied drag is the best for this (IMHO). I went through a large arbor phase for trout reels, though I'm now happily back with my Farlow's Sapphire 3 1/8". The Sapphire looks similar to a Hardy lightweight (i.e. 30's-50's design), and uses the click pawl drag. I slacken the drag right off, and find that this reel is plenty enough, and I like its lightness on my 8' #3 trout rod. |
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"W. D. Grey" wrote in message ... In article , laxhill writes I wouldn't necessarily agree with the "nothing more" bit. I mostly fish reservoirs. This involves long casting and if you get a take close in on the retrieve you can have 20+ yds of line around your feet. No problem with small fish but with large fish it's far safer to get the spare line on the reel - fast - or you are in serious risk of a tangle with loss of the fish. A large diameter reel is a big advantage. The reservoir I fish has rainbows/browns/blue trout all well into double figures. I wouldn't like to fish it with a small diameter reel. I use the "old" Dragonfly 120 reel. Conversely I fish the river with a small antique wooden reel that just takes a 4# line - just for the hell of it. Well Keith, you have to agree that even a larger diameter reel is still only a device to hold the fly line. The question of what type of arbor you use is a matter of opinion, and I can categorically say that several acquaintances of mine who fish in the Welsh Fly Fishing team use Wide reels rather than larger arbor reels per se. Of course the wider reels may well have larger diameter arbor anyway. This could easily be achieved by using more backing. If you really want to get your line in quickly why not use a multiplying fly reel in which one turn of the handle turns the spool two an a half times like the old Shakespeare Speedex. -- Good advice. I have a Battenkill multiplier that gets the line back onto the reel tout vite. For most fish I don't bother too much with drag systems, and for trouting with my 3lb tippets I don't bother with drag at all. The manually applied drag is the best for this (IMHO). I went through a large arbor phase for trout reels, though I'm now happily back with my Farlow's Sapphire 3 1/8". The Sapphire looks similar to a Hardy lightweight (i.e. 30's-50's design), and uses the click pawl drag. I slacken the drag right off, and find that this reel is plenty enough, and I like its lightness on my 8' #3 trout rod. |
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A Reel Choice
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:42:51 +0100, "W. D. Grey"
wrote: In article , laxhill writes I wouldn't necessarily agree with the "nothing more" bit. I mostly fish reservoirs. This involves long casting and if you get a take close in on the retrieve you can have 20+ yds of line around your feet. No problem with small fish but with large fish it's far safer to get the spare line on the reel - fast - or you are in serious risk of a tangle with loss of the fish. A large diameter reel is a big advantage. The reservoir I fish has rainbows/browns/blue trout all well into double figures. I wouldn't like to fish it with a small diameter reel. I use the "old" Dragonfly 120 reel. Conversely I fish the river with a small antique wooden reel that just takes a 4# line - just for the hell of it. Well Keith, you have to agree that even a larger diameter reel is still only a device to hold the fly line. The question of what type of arbor you use is a matter of opinion, and I can categorically say that several acquaintances of mine who fish in the Welsh Fly Fishing team use Wide reels rather than larger arbor reels per se. Of course the wider reels may well have larger diameter arbor anyway. This could easily be achieved by using more backing. If you really want to get your line in quickly why not use a multiplying fly reel in which one turn of the handle turns the spool two an a half times like the old Shakespeare Speedex. "not use a multiplying" Bill - in a word - weight. I did many years ago use the old Intrepid Gearfly reels but the gears soon wore out - I fish a lot. I also tried a lever operated automatic reel with a large spring inside it - Mitchell 710 weighed a "ton" and line capacity was too small. I have had trouble with tennis elbow and less weight is an advantage. Welsh Fly Fishing team - ah memories, I vaguely remember we beat them in 1994 & 1995 when I was in the England Fly Fishing Team ;-) Reels for boat fishiing again don't have the same "needs". In competitions you are invariably fishing for stockies which can be hustled in and you are often short lining. You don't have as a rule yards of spare line waiting to tangle - at least not by a fish - just when you cast! Keith |
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