Dubbing with Seal's Fur

"bones" wrote in message
...
I try to avoid wax. I have not used it in years. There is, IMO
little to no need. To have seal stick to the thread via wax would
produce a mess on the hook.Try a touch of wax on your fingers when you
spin the seal. That will give you traction to get the hair on the
thread and that about all you need before you lock it against the hook
:-).



If there's one thing I hate about fly tying, it has to be getting wax on my
fingers. That stuff doesn't come off very easy, then everything I touch
sticks to my fingers. :-(






---------------------------------------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
--Dubya, Thursday August 5, 2004

I try to avoid wax. I have not used it in years. There is, IMO
little to no need. To have seal stick to the thread via wax would
produce a mess on the hook.Try a touch of wax on your fingers when you
spin the seal. That will give you traction to get the hair on the
thread and that about all you need before you lock it against the hook
:-).

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:33:56 GMT, "Derek Burwood"
wrote:

This link might be useful ?
http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/dubbingwax/


"Bones" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:02:38 -0400, "James McCall"
wrote:

I'm finding this material very difficult to dub successfully because of
the
long, quite stiff, springy hairs. Is there a "best" way to handle this
material? Does using the loop technique with a spinner make it any
easier?
Any comments on a ball-bearing loop spinner vs. a twister? Thanks.


SPIN A SMALL NOODLE IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. SPIN/TWIST THE VERY TIP
OF THE NOODLE ONTO THE THREAD. SLIDE THAT TIP AREA UP THE THREAD TO
THE HOOK, MAKE ONE WRAP TRAPPING OR LOCKING THE TIP AGAINST THE HOOK.
TWIST THE DUB ONTO THE THREAD WITH YOUR LEFT HAND AT EVERY TURN OF
THREAD ONTO THE HOOK. START WITH HALF THE AMOUNT OF FUR YOU THINK YOU
NEED AND DIVIDE THAT IN HALF AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE TWICE AS MUCH AS
YOU NEED.
THIS MAY HELP

http://www.troutflies.com/tutorials/stimulator/32.shtml


SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS ...UNIX BOX

Harry Mason
www.troutflies.com


Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

I try to avoid wax. I have not used it in years. There is, IMO
little to no need. To have seal stick to the thread via wax would
produce a mess on the hook.Try a touch of wax on your fingers when you
spin the seal. That will give you traction to get the hair on the
thread and that about all you need before you lock it against the hook
:-).

On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 22:33:56 GMT, "Derek Burwood"
wrote:

This link might be useful ?
http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/dubbingwax/


"Bones" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:02:38 -0400, "James McCall"
wrote:

I'm finding this material very difficult to dub successfully because of
the
long, quite stiff, springy hairs. Is there a "best" way to handle this
material? Does using the loop technique with a spinner make it any
easier?
Any comments on a ball-bearing loop spinner vs. a twister? Thanks.


SPIN A SMALL NOODLE IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. SPIN/TWIST THE VERY TIP
OF THE NOODLE ONTO THE THREAD. SLIDE THAT TIP AREA UP THE THREAD TO
THE HOOK, MAKE ONE WRAP TRAPPING OR LOCKING THE TIP AGAINST THE HOOK.
TWIST THE DUB ONTO THE THREAD WITH YOUR LEFT HAND AT EVERY TURN OF
THREAD ONTO THE HOOK. START WITH HALF THE AMOUNT OF FUR YOU THINK YOU
NEED AND DIVIDE THAT IN HALF AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE TWICE AS MUCH AS
YOU NEED.
THIS MAY HELP

http://www.troutflies.com/tutorials/stimulator/32.shtml


SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS ...UNIX BOX

Harry Mason
www.troutflies.com


Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 01:56:02 GMT, "Hooked" wrote:

"bones" wrote in message
.. .
I try to avoid wax. I have not used it in years. There is, IMO
little to no need. To have seal stick to the thread via wax would
produce a mess on the hook.Try a touch of wax on your fingers when you
spin the seal. That will give you traction to get the hair on the
thread and that about all you need before you lock it against the hook
:-).



If there's one thing I hate about fly tying, it has to be getting wax on my
fingers. That stuff doesn't come off very easy, then everything I touch
sticks to my fingers. :-(






---------------------------------------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
--Dubya, Thursday August 5, 2004



just a touch and I mean just dab your finger on the wax once. I'm not
talking waxing the prints off your finger tips :-)
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

"bones" wrote in message
...


just a touch and I mean just dab your finger on the wax once. I'm not
talking waxing the prints off your finger tips :-)
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com


I'm talking about getting wax on my fingers by just touching the tread to
twist the dubbing!








---------------------------------------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
--Dubya, Thursday August 5, 2004

On Sun, 08 Aug 2004 02:57:06 GMT, "Hooked" wrote:

"bones" wrote in message
.. .


just a touch and I mean just dab your finger on the wax once. I'm not
talking waxing the prints off your finger tips :-)
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com


I'm talking about getting wax on my fingers by just touching the tread to
twist the dubbing!








---------------------------------------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
--Dubya, Thursday August 5, 2004




well then the locking method should work wonders :-)
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

"bones" wrote in message
...



well then the locking method should work wonders :-)
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com



Please explain.







---------------------------------------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
--Dubya, Thursday August 5, 2004

On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 22:26:28 -0500, "Hooked"
wrote:

"bones" wrote in message
.. .



well then the locking method should work wonders :-)
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com



Please explain.







---------------------------------------------------------------
"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we.
They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country
and our people, and neither do we."
--Dubya, Thursday August 5, 2004




from a prior post.........

SPIN A SMALL NOODLE IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. SPIN/TWIST THE VERY TIP
OF THE NOODLE ONTO THE THREAD. SLIDE THAT TIP AREA UP THE THREAD TO
THE HOOK, MAKE ONE WRAP TRAPPING OR LOCKING THE TIP AGAINST THE HOOK.
TWIST THE DUB ONTO THE THREAD WITH YOUR LEFT HAND AT EVERY TURN OF
THREAD ONTO THE HOOK. START WITH HALF THE AMOUNT OF FUR YOU THINK YOU
NEED AND DIVIDE THAT IN HALF AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE TWICE AS MUCH AS
YOU NEED.
THIS MAY HELP

http://www.troutflies.com/tutorials/stimulator/32.shtml


SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS ...UNIX BOX
Harry Mason
www.Troutflies.com

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:02:38 -0400, "James McCall"
wrote...:

I'm finding this material very difficult to dub successfully because of the
long, quite stiff, springy hairs. Is there a "best" way to handle this
material? Does using the loop technique with a spinner make it any easier?
Any comments on a ball-bearing loop spinner vs. a twister? Thanks.

Lots of wax. I usually pinch it between my fingers and chop it up a bit
with scissors to shorten the fibres. Other than that, I;'m hoping that
the other replies are more helpful, cos I hate using the stuff.


John
"When the only tool you own is a hammer, every problem begins to resemble a nail."
-- Abraham Maslow