Dubbing with Seal's Fur

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:02:38 -0400, "James McCall"
wrote:

I'm finding this material very difficult to dub successfully because of the
long, quite stiff, springy hairs. Is there a "best" way to handle this
material? Does using the loop technique with a spinner make it any easier?
Any comments on a ball-bearing loop spinner vs. a twister? Thanks.


SPIN A SMALL NOODLE IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. SPIN/TWIST THE VERY TIP
OF THE NOODLE ONTO THE THREAD. SLIDE THAT TIP AREA UP THE THREAD TO
THE HOOK, MAKE ONE WRAP TRAPPING OR LOCKING THE TIP AGAINST THE HOOK.
TWIST THE DUB ONTO THE THREAD WITH YOUR LEFT HAND AT EVERY TURN OF
THREAD ONTO THE HOOK. START WITH HALF THE AMOUNT OF FUR YOU THINK YOU
NEED AND DIVIDE THAT IN HALF AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE TWICE AS MUCH AS
YOU NEED.
THIS MAY HELP

http://www.troutflies.com/tutorials/stimulator/32.shtml


SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS ...UNIX BOX

Harry Mason
www.troutflies.com

On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:02:38 -0400, "James McCall"
wrote:

I'm finding this material very difficult to dub successfully because of the
long, quite stiff, springy hairs. Is there a "best" way to handle this
material? Does using the loop technique with a spinner make it any easier?
Any comments on a ball-bearing loop spinner vs. a twister? Thanks.


SPIN A SMALL NOODLE IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. SPIN/TWIST THE VERY TIP
OF THE NOODLE ONTO THE THREAD. SLIDE THAT TIP AREA UP THE THREAD TO
THE HOOK, MAKE ONE WRAP TRAPPING OR LOCKING THE TIP AGAINST THE HOOK.
TWIST THE DUB ONTO THE THREAD WITH YOUR LEFT HAND AT EVERY TURN OF
THREAD ONTO THE HOOK. START WITH HALF THE AMOUNT OF FUR YOU THINK YOU
NEED AND DIVIDE THAT IN HALF AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE TWICE AS MUCH AS
YOU NEED.
THIS MAY HELP

http://www.troutflies.com/tutorials/stimulator/32.shtml


SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS ...UNIX BOX

Harry Mason
www.troutflies.com

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:21:52 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:



daytripper wrote:



The one tying technique I hate with passion is using a dubbing loop.

So I have a small collection of dubbing waxes, one of which is so freaky tacky
it can pin a chunk of coaxial cable to the hook, never mind seal guard hairs.

The label has long worn off - maybe someone will recognize it: ridiculously
tacky deep yellow colored wax in a blue push-up tube with a bright yellow
cap...

/daytripper (it's the good stuff, whatever it is :-)

uh...you don't have a liposuction waste facility nearby, do you? g

jeff (nip/tuck)

eeeewwwww

/daytripper (who wonders what causes a mind to even think of such things ;-)

daytripper wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:21:52 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:



daytripper wrote:
maybe someone will recognize it: ridiculously
tacky deep yellow colored wax (it's the good stuff, whatever it is :-)

uh...you don't have a liposuction waste facility nearby, do you? g

jeff (nip/tuck)


eeeewwwww

/daytripper (who wonders what causes a mind to even think of such things ;-)

just combine "tacky, deep yellow colored waxy substance" with an
overdose of nip/tuck dvds...and... your description fits that lard goo
the plastic surgeons suck out of guts and butts. but, then, there's the
voices too ... can't you hear them? the voices?

daytripper wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:21:52 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:



daytripper wrote:
maybe someone will recognize it: ridiculously
tacky deep yellow colored wax (it's the good stuff, whatever it is :-)

uh...you don't have a liposuction waste facility nearby, do you? g

jeff (nip/tuck)


eeeewwwww

/daytripper (who wonders what causes a mind to even think of such things ;-)

just combine "tacky, deep yellow colored waxy substance" with an
overdose of nip/tuck dvds...and... your description fits that lard goo
the plastic surgeons suck out of guts and butts. but, then, there's the
voices too ... can't you hear them? the voices?

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 18:26:07 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:



daytripper wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:21:52 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:



daytripper wrote:
maybe someone will recognize it: ridiculously
tacky deep yellow colored wax (it's the good stuff, whatever it is :-)

uh...you don't have a liposuction waste facility nearby, do you? g

jeff (nip/tuck)


eeeewwwww

/daytripper (who wonders what causes a mind to even think of such things ;-)

just combine "tacky, deep yellow colored waxy substance" with an
overdose of nip/tuck dvds...and... your description fits that lard goo
the plastic surgeons suck out of guts and butts. but, then, there's the
voices too ... can't you hear them? the voices?

lol
no, I don't hear the voices....yet....
But then I haven't seen "Nip Tuck" yet, either...

/daytripper (so much to do. so little time ;-)

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 18:26:07 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:



daytripper wrote:

On Thu, 05 Aug 2004 09:21:52 -0400, Jeff Miller
wrote:



daytripper wrote:
maybe someone will recognize it: ridiculously
tacky deep yellow colored wax (it's the good stuff, whatever it is :-)

uh...you don't have a liposuction waste facility nearby, do you? g

jeff (nip/tuck)


eeeewwwww

/daytripper (who wonders what causes a mind to even think of such things ;-)

just combine "tacky, deep yellow colored waxy substance" with an
overdose of nip/tuck dvds...and... your description fits that lard goo
the plastic surgeons suck out of guts and butts. but, then, there's the
voices too ... can't you hear them? the voices?

lol
no, I don't hear the voices....yet....
But then I haven't seen "Nip Tuck" yet, either...

/daytripper (so much to do. so little time ;-)

This link might be useful ?
http://globalflyfisher.com/tiebetter/dubbingwax/


"Bones" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:02:38 -0400, "James McCall"
wrote:

I'm finding this material very difficult to dub successfully because of
the
long, quite stiff, springy hairs. Is there a "best" way to handle this
material? Does using the loop technique with a spinner make it any
easier?
Any comments on a ball-bearing loop spinner vs. a twister? Thanks.


SPIN A SMALL NOODLE IN THE PALM OF YOUR HAND. SPIN/TWIST THE VERY TIP
OF THE NOODLE ONTO THE THREAD. SLIDE THAT TIP AREA UP THE THREAD TO
THE HOOK, MAKE ONE WRAP TRAPPING OR LOCKING THE TIP AGAINST THE HOOK.
TWIST THE DUB ONTO THE THREAD WITH YOUR LEFT HAND AT EVERY TURN OF
THREAD ONTO THE HOOK. START WITH HALF THE AMOUNT OF FUR YOU THINK YOU
NEED AND DIVIDE THAT IN HALF AND YOU WILL STILL HAVE TWICE AS MUCH AS
YOU NEED.
THIS MAY HELP

http://www.troutflies.com/tutorials/stimulator/32.shtml


SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS ...UNIX BOX

Harry Mason
www.troutflies.com

James McCall wrote:

I'm finding this material very difficult to dub successfully because of the
long, quite stiff, springy hairs. Is there a "best" way to handle this
material? Does using the loop technique with a spinner make it any easier?
Any comments on a ball-bearing loop spinner vs. a twister? Thanks.

"bones" wrote in message
...
I try to avoid wax. I have not used it in years. There is, IMO
little to no need. To have seal stick to the thread via wax would
produce a mess on the hook.Try a touch of wax on your fingers when you
spin the seal. That will give you traction to get the hair on the
thread and that about all you need before you lock it against the hook
:-).



If there's one thing I hate about fly tying, it has to be getting wax on my
fingers. That stuff doesn't come off very easy, then everything I touch
sticks to my fingers. :-(






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