Finally.....

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 09:46:20 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:54:40 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:14:18 -0600, rw
wrote:

(I've gone
through two pair of G3s in seven years, Dave. Apparently, I wade and
break trail in far gnarlier **** than you do. The wild roses are the worst.)

Hmmmm. I thought I bought them when they were new to the market place
five years ago. Anyway, I am amazed at the wear and tear they can
endure without leaking. Any other set I have owned would have split
at the seams or seperated at the bootie by now. I fall *every time* I
go fishing. Some are bad (my shins and knees show the results). All
involve rocks or dead falls, and sliding on my ass off of rocks has
become a regular occurance. I don't know how Simms does it, but their
product endures everything I throw at it.

Dave

Sheesh, I am regularly in stuff that would apparently kill either of you, and in
shorts, low-cut boots, and a brush shirt - try bush hogging through a big mess
of Cherokee rose, not to mention walking through it.

IAC, for what Simms charges for its G4, you are about 2/3 of the way to a
full-blown 'stang suit, and for about 1/3 of they charge, you can get a TOTL
commercial-duty bib pant, which, generally, is about like a reenforced,
insulated/buoyant G4 without the stockingfoot. There are a number of places
down here (due to all the offshore/oil and gas, marine, seafood industry, etc.)
where you can have a insulated, multi-layer work suit, pants, bib/farmer,
whatever custom-made out of Gore-Tex (or whatever WP fabric you want and is
available to the maker), and for about half what Simms charges, you could have
waders made that would make G3s/G4s seem like Hefty bags "strength"-wise (or,
since that would likely be a bit much for wading/FFing, have something made that
would just about duplicate Simms' product, but custom-fit with whatever pockets,
zippers, etc. you might reasonably want).

Again, I have nothing against Simms or their products - based solely upon the
product, it is a decent enough product - but anyone who claims they don't think
they are paying a fair amount for the Simms name on them, or that they "need"
Simms waders, is either foolish or lying.

And as an aside, I went to Hodgman's website and found that they are now owned
by Stearns, which makes work suits, bibs, etc. similar to what I mentioned
above. A Sterns work suit runs about $350USD and the bib about $170 - here's
Google's first hit:

http://www.columbussupply.com/produc...575&price=1098

Whether this change of ownership is good or bad, I don't know as I not even
seen, much less used, any of the Stearn's-owned Hodgman's. All I can say is
that the Hodgman's of mine - which the "new" company doesn't make/sell - have
been _extremely_ durable under some pretty demanding conditions (not FFing).

HTH,
R

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wrote in message
...
anyone who claims they don't think
they are paying a fair amount for the Simms name on them, or that they
"need"
Simms waders, is either foolish or lying.


well, enough of this, and back to the original point of the thread. First,
congrats, Jo, on the retirement. And Dave,
you don't have to force the poor woman into a life of picking you up after
your(self described) regular streamside falls. Maybe the two of you can take
up a safer hobby......
Anyhow, get her the waders, whatever brand you choose.
They will no doubt be a quality item, and waders will be necessary for your
beloved spouse, now that she will be around the house more to hear your
political rantsg.
Fishing be damned......
enjoy!
Tom

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 15:30:14 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:

waders will be necessary for your
beloved spouse, now that she will be around the house more to hear your
political rantsg.
Fishing be damned......
enjoy!

bseg

Thanks, Tom.

Looking forward to her retirement. We are more than a married couple;
we are dear friends. I have taken up golf (again after 50 years), but
I doubt she would or could do that. Fishing, grandkids, travel, and
gardening are the priorities, but not necessarily in that order.

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 10:49:14 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:



Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz zzzzzzzzzz

....maybe if you got that narcolepsy checked out, you wouldn't fall down so
much...

HTH,
R

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:13:03 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

I have taken up golf (again after 50 years)...

No doubt completely kitted from the Smails' Trendy Sport Geriatric line...

HTH,
R

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:31:19 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:13:03 -0400, Dave LaCourse
wrote:

I have taken up golf (again after 50 years)...

No doubt completely kitted from the Smails' Trendy Sport Geriatric line...

HTH,
R

d;o)
Actually from Dick's Sporting Goods..... on sale too. And why do you
think everything I do or buy is "trendy?" Is there a "trend" for old
men to take up golf? Sure didn't realize that. What would be a good
golf car (car not cart)? Five series wagon? MB E wagon? Porsche
Panamera? Ford F250? Nonononono, I've got it...... perfect.... A G55
AMG. Performance, trendy, practical, beautiful, expensive. What more
could a man want or need. And for less than $125K. I'll be able to
*drive* *all the way* to Lakewood. WOW! Thank you Dickie.

Reminders:
1) Turn off the phone when I go to bed tonight - no more mid-night
phone calls from Richard.

2) Contact MB dealer Monday before golf lesson.

3) Join http://www.charteroakcc.com/Club/Scripts/Home/home.asp which
is less than a mile down the road.

4) Take up tennis.

5) Stop having so much fun with Rich.

Davey

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Sat, 25 Jul 2009 22:14:18 -0600, rw
wrote:


(I've gone
through two pair of G3s in seven years, Dave. Apparently, I wade and
break trail in far gnarlier **** than you do. The wild roses are the worst.)


Hmmmm. I thought I bought them when they were new to the market place
five years ago. Anyway, I am amazed at the wear and tear they can
endure without leaking. Any other set I have owned would have split
at the seams or seperated at the bootie by now. I fall *every time* I
go fishing. Some are bad (my shins and knees show the results). All
involve rocks or dead falls, and sliding on my ass off of rocks has
become a regular occurance. I don't know how Simms does it, but their
product endures everything I throw at it.

It may have been two pair in five years. I didn't take notes. And I'm
not dissing Simms waders in general or G3s in particular. They're good
waders. That's why I have the G4s now.

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