More Anti Movies from Disney

Disney's Anti-Hunting Bias is UnBEARable- (11/26)






Disney's most recent animated feature, "Brother Bear," is following in the
anti-hunting footsteps of "Bambi" as it hits theatres in time for the
holidays - and hunting seasons.





The movie is about a young Native American hunter, Kenai, who is transformed
into a bear. He becomes the adoptive father of a cub, only to find that
another hunter is stalking him. Daniel Neman, a writer for the Richmond
Times-Dispatch in Virginia notes, "the film makes an anti-hunting statement
that is out of place for American Indians."





In sportsmen's eyes, the Disney flick could not come at a poorer time. This
year, sportsmen have been forced to defend bear hunting across the country.
The U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance's National Bear Hunting Defense Task Force and
other conservation groups rallied hunters to prevent Congress from banning
the use of bait to hunt black bears. It is currently working to protect a
recently established bear hunt in New Jersey. The Alliance is preparing for
campaigns in Maine and Alaska to protect bear hunting from anti-hunting
attacks that promise to be on the 2004 ballot.





Disney Goes Overboard

PETA has modified a film poster from the Disney blockbuster Finding Nemo to
promote its anti-fishing campaign. Disney's cartoon fish, Nemo and Marlin,
appear on PETA's website and leaflets that read, "Fish are friends, not
food!"





Take Action! Sportsmen should flood The Walt Disney Company with contacts
telling it that allowing PETA use of its Finding Nemo characters is aiding
an organization that has spent tens of thousands of dollars paying legal
fees for convicted terrorists. Inform the company that PETA is also being
investigated for sending $1,500 to the Animal Liberation Front, an
underground group identified by the FBI as a domestic terrorist
organization. Contact Mr. Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO, The Walt Disney
Company, 500 S. Buena Vista St., Burbank, CA, 91521-9722. Phone (818)
560-1000. Fax (818) 560-1930.






--
James Ehlers

Outdoors Magazine
www.outdoorsmagazine.net

paranoid drivel snipped

You realize, I would hope, that protesting cartoon characters and their use
would leave you and your supporters looking bad.
Go hunting, go fishing, and worry about larger issues than Disney's
involvement.
Has hunting declined since, or due to, the release of Bambi? More to the point,
PETA and similar organizations play on the overreaction of their opponents.
Don't play their game. Simply stay informed, follow the legislation, stay
active, and chill out.
Tom

Don't play their game. Simply stay informed, follow the legislation, stay
active, and chill out.
Tom

And, of course, refuse to add any money to any Disney coffer and let them
know why.

I can spend the rest of my life in FL and never feel the need to go to
Disney World.

--
Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69

"Outdoors Magazine" wrote in message
et...
Disney's Anti-Hunting Bias is UnBEARable- (11/26)

Disney's most recent animated feature, "Brother Bear," is following in the
anti-hunting footsteps of "Bambi" as it hits theatres in time for the
holidays - and hunting seasons.

The movie is about a young Native American hunter, Kenai, who is
transformed
into a bear. He becomes the adoptive father of a cub, only to find that
another hunter is stalking him. Daniel Neman, a writer for the Richmond
Times-Dispatch in Virginia notes, "the film makes an anti-hunting
statement
that is out of place for American Indians."


In sportsmen's eyes, the Disney flick could not come at a poorer time.
This
year, sportsmen have been forced to defend bear hunting across the
country.
The U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance's National Bear Hunting Defense Task Force
and
other conservation groups rallied hunters to prevent Congress from banning
the use of bait to hunt black bears. It is currently working to protect a
recently established bear hunt in New Jersey. The Alliance is preparing
for
campaigns in Maine and Alaska to protect bear hunting from anti-hunting
attacks that promise to be on the 2004 ballot.

Disney Goes Overboard

PETA has modified a film poster from the Disney blockbuster Finding Nemo
to
promote its anti-fishing campaign. Disney's cartoon fish, Nemo and
Marlin,
appear on PETA's website and leaflets that read, "Fish are friends, not
food!"

Take Action! Sportsmen should flood The Walt Disney Company with contacts
telling it that allowing PETA use of its Finding Nemo characters is aiding
an organization that has spent tens of thousands of dollars paying legal
fees for convicted terrorists. Inform the company that PETA is also being
investigated for sending $1,500 to the Animal Liberation Front, an
underground group identified by the FBI as a domestic terrorist
organization. Contact Mr. Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO, The Walt
Disney
Company, 500 S. Buena Vista St., Burbank, CA, 91521-9722. Phone (818)
560-1000. Fax (818) 560-1930.


James Ehlers

At first glance, it would appear that you are to be congratulated, Mr.
Ehlers. Efforts such as yours on behalf of the anti hunting and fishing
movement currently gaining popularity in America, and in much of the rest of
the world, would be highly valued were it not for the fact that hunters and
fishers are already well represented by imbeciles who cannot legitimately
distinguish between their siblings and the mothers of their children.
Naturally, the fact that you and your opponents are kissing cousins just
adds spice to the mixture. One hardly knows who to shoot first!

Wolfgang

"slenon" wrote in message
.. .
Don't play their game. Simply stay informed, follow the legislation,
stay
active, and chill out.
Tom

And, of course, refuse to add any money to any Disney coffer and let them
know why.

I can spend the rest of my life in FL and never feel the need to go to
Disney World.

One supposes you could spend a multitude of lifetimes in any number of
places without giving any of them the sort of examination they
deserve.....or need.

Wolfgang

Mr. Wolfgang,
And your remarks are constructive on what level other than in revealing your
prejudice and classist attitude? You should be so grateful that your place
in the world today has not been overly constrained by socio-economic
conditions of generations preceding you. Moreover, this gratitude could and
should translate into a willingness to assist those you mock.


--
James Ehlers

Outdoors Magazine
www.outdoorsmagazine.net




"Wolfgang" wrote in message
...

"Outdoors Magazine" wrote in message
et...
Disney's Anti-Hunting Bias is UnBEARable- (11/26)

Disney's most recent animated feature, "Brother Bear," is following in
the
anti-hunting footsteps of "Bambi" as it hits theatres in time for the
holidays - and hunting seasons.

The movie is about a young Native American hunter, Kenai, who is
transformed
into a bear. He becomes the adoptive father of a cub, only to find that
another hunter is stalking him. Daniel Neman, a writer for the Richmond
Times-Dispatch in Virginia notes, "the film makes an anti-hunting
statement
that is out of place for American Indians."


In sportsmen's eyes, the Disney flick could not come at a poorer time.
This
year, sportsmen have been forced to defend bear hunting across the
country.
The U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance's National Bear Hunting Defense Task Force
and
other conservation groups rallied hunters to prevent Congress from
banning
the use of bait to hunt black bears. It is currently working to protect
a
recently established bear hunt in New Jersey. The Alliance is preparing
for
campaigns in Maine and Alaska to protect bear hunting from anti-hunting
attacks that promise to be on the 2004 ballot.

Disney Goes Overboard

PETA has modified a film poster from the Disney blockbuster Finding Nemo
to
promote its anti-fishing campaign. Disney's cartoon fish, Nemo and
Marlin,
appear on PETA's website and leaflets that read, "Fish are friends, not
food!"

Take Action! Sportsmen should flood The Walt Disney Company with
contacts
telling it that allowing PETA use of its Finding Nemo characters is
aiding
an organization that has spent tens of thousands of dollars paying legal
fees for convicted terrorists. Inform the company that PETA is also
being
investigated for sending $1,500 to the Animal Liberation Front, an
underground group identified by the FBI as a domestic terrorist
organization. Contact Mr. Michael Eisner, Chairman and CEO, The Walt
Disney
Company, 500 S. Buena Vista St., Burbank, CA, 91521-9722. Phone (818)
560-1000. Fax (818) 560-1930.


James Ehlers

At first glance, it would appear that you are to be congratulated, Mr.
Ehlers. Efforts such as yours on behalf of the anti hunting and fishing
movement currently gaining popularity in America, and in much of the rest
of
the world, would be highly valued were it not for the fact that hunters
and
fishers are already well represented by imbeciles who cannot legitimately
distinguish between their siblings and the mothers of their children.
Naturally, the fact that you and your opponents are kissing cousins just
adds spice to the mixture. One hardly knows who to shoot first!

Wolfgang

Dear Mr. Littleton,

I will disregard your disrespectful opening comments and proceed. I do not
believe it is the cartoon characters that are the issue but rather the
Disney Corporation which also owns companies like ABC and ESPN.

Perhaps where you live there are not real threats to fishing, but there in
many places in this country, including movements to ban catch and release
fly fishing.

It is not a game. There is a lawsuit in NJ right now to recall all hunting
and fishing licenses. It is not a game.

Please wake up, not for anyone's sake but yours and your kids.


--
James Ehlers

Outdoors Magazine
www.outdoorsmagazine.net




"Tom Littleton" wrote in message
...
paranoid drivel snipped

You realize, I would hope, that protesting cartoon characters and their
use
would leave you and your supporters looking bad.
Go hunting, go fishing, and worry about larger issues than Disney's
involvement.
Has hunting declined since, or due to, the release of Bambi? More to the
point,
PETA and similar organizations play on the overreaction of their
opponents.
Don't play their game. Simply stay informed, follow the legislation, stay
active, and chill out.
Tom

Outdoors Magazine wrote:

Dear Mr. Littleton,

I will disregard your disrespectful opening comments and proceed. I do not
believe it is the cartoon characters that are the issue but rather the
Disney Corporation which also owns companies like ABC and ESPN.

What disrespectful opening comments ? You sound like a raving loon,
now THERE'S a disrespectful comment. Tom has given you some very sound
advice and I will add the following; the URL in your sig doesn't work.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Outdoors Magazine" wrote in message
et...
Mr. Wolfgang,
And your remarks are constructive on what level other than in revealing
your
prejudice and classist attitude?

Well, Mr. James, that's a real interesting question, that is. In the first
place, I'm curious about what prejudice it is you think I've revealed and
which classes you believe I've set against one another, but I guess I won't
hold my breath waiting for revelation. As to the meat of the question, I
think the answer depends to a large extent on what is implicit in it which,
in turn, hinges on context. If I understand your position, you maintain
that hunting and fishing are worthwhile activities with their own intrinsic
merits. Is that about right? Assuming that it is, it might interest you to
know that I am a lifelong avid hunter and fisher. Naturally, it follows
that unless I am a complete sociopath, I believe those activities to be
justifiable on some level beyond merely satisfying my own urges. In other
words, we agree on the basic premise underlying your argument....however
vapid and counterproductive it's exposition. Now, the question you SHOULD
be asking becomes obvious, doesn't it? If you can't convince someone who
agrees with your position that your arguments have so much as a shred of
merit, then how well do you think you are going to fare in dealing with all
those folks who don't?

You should be so grateful that your place
in the world today has not been overly constrained by socio-economic
conditions of generations preceding you.

As you should be grateful for the existence of anyone willing to expend the
time and energy required to sift through that jumbled mass of randomly
selected words in a search for meaning, and especially so when, as was
predictable, the search proved fruitless.

Moreover, this gratitude could and
should translate into a willingness to assist those you mock.

Oh, you haven't seen much in the way of mockery yet, and the assistance that
has been rendered was surely as wasted as it was opaque to you. In the end,
the issue of whether or not hunting and fishing will continue to be
practiced in this country will not be decided by anyone willing to look the
matter rationally, but rather by people like yourself.

Wolfgang

James Ehlers notes:
Perhaps where you live there are not real threats to fishing, but there in
many places in this country, including movements to ban catch and release
fly fishing.


I am perfectly aware of such movements. At present, few regard them with any
seriousness whatsoever, despite the fact that Bambi has aired for close to
three generations. Hyperbolic overreaction is the only thing that could make
such movements blossom into a true threat, as the public could then develop the
idea that outdoorsmen(and women) are as irrational as the opposition.
Tom