Kill File in Google Reader? and Message to Beancounter

On Dec 31, 10:08*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:
i would expect nothing less from the loony lefties...btw: good navy
game this afternoon....


Imbecile.

g.

On Dec 31 2009, 8:08*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

It's a fact: you're a Tory fisherperson. Tories fish cheeseballs. You
fish cheeseballs.
Don't fight it. Be comfortable with your inner Tory.

yawn.........did you say something DaveS?







On Jan 1, 7:32*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Dec 31 2009, 8:08*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

It's a fact: you're a Tory fisherperson. Tories fish cheeseballs. You
fish cheeseballs.
Don't fight it. Be comfortable with your inner Tory.

On Jan 2, 8:16*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
yawn.........did you say something DaveS?

On Jan 1, 7:32*pm, DaveS wrote:



On Dec 31 2009, 8:08*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

It's a fact: you're a Tory fisherperson. Tories fish cheeseballs. You
fish cheeseballs.
Don't fight it. Be comfortable with your inner Tory.- Hide quoted text -

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.. . . flies.

Don't struggle with it too much; I might adjust the reading level down
if maybe you could share your recipe for your go-to Velvetta
Cheeseball fly.?

Easily led, simple answer seekers like you, believers in witchcraft
like Palin, and arm chair warriors like Cheney are unfortunate but
disposable political fellow travelers for real conservatives. These
folks will have their papa's money, high heels, book contracts and
born-again scams to keep them in German wheels. But what about your
kind?

The food banks and church handout programs are full of confused,
whimpering former big pie hole wingnuts like you right now, begging
for help from program's and people they trashed just months ago,
before their safe little wingnut worlds crumbled leaving their
arrogance naked of security. Better hope your world holds and you
don't have to choose between eating your popgun or tearing-up in the
welfare line.

Nothing makes a sloganeering wingnut into a practical and humane
progressive faster than living through some bad times. Good luck
Beanster.

Dave

Loony drivel.......nothin' new here..........



On Jan 2, 9:34*am, DaveS wrote:
On Jan 2, 8:16*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:

yawn.........did you say something DaveS?

On Jan 1, 7:32*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Dec 31 2009, 8:08*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

It's a fact: you're a Tory fisherperson. Tories fish cheeseballs. You
fish cheeseballs.
Don't fight it. Be comfortable with your inner Tory.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

. . . *flies.

Don't struggle with it too much; I might adjust the reading level down
if maybe you could share your recipe for your go-to Velvetta
Cheeseball fly.?

Easily led, simple answer seekers like you, believers in witchcraft
like Palin, and arm chair warriors like Cheney are unfortunate but
disposable political fellow travelers for real conservatives. These
folks will have their papa's money, high heels, book contracts and
born-again scams to keep them in German wheels. But what about your
kind?

The food banks and church handout programs are full of confused,
whimpering former big pie hole wingnuts like you right now, begging
for help from program's and people they trashed just months ago,
before their safe little wingnut worlds crumbled leaving their
arrogance naked of security. Better hope your world holds and you
don't have to choose between eating your popgun or tearing-up in the
welfare line.

Nothing makes a sloganeering wingnut into a practical and humane
progressive faster than living through some bad times. Good luck
Beanster.

Dave

On Jan 2, 10:16*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
yawn.........did you say something DaveS?

Yes, he said, "Idiot."

Moron.

g.

On Jan 2, 7:41*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:
Loony drivel.......nothin' *new here..........


Imbecile.

g.

On Jan 2, 11:34*am, DaveS wrote:
On Jan 2, 8:16*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:

yawn.........did you say something DaveS?

On Jan 1, 7:32*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Dec 31 2009, 8:08*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

It's a fact: you're a Tory fisherperson. Tories fish cheeseballs. You
fish cheeseballs.
Don't fight it. Be comfortable with your inner Tory.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

. . . *flies.

Don't struggle with it too much; I might adjust the reading level down
if maybe you could share your recipe for your go-to Velvetta
Cheeseball fly.?

Easily led, simple answer seekers like you, believers in witchcraft
like Palin, and arm chair warriors like Cheney are unfortunate but
disposable political fellow travelers for real conservatives. These
folks will have their papa's money, high heels, book contracts and
born-again scams to keep them in German wheels. But what about your
kind?

The food banks and church handout programs are full of confused,
whimpering former big pie hole wingnuts like you right now, begging
for help from program's and people they trashed just months ago,
before their safe little wingnut worlds crumbled leaving their
arrogance naked of security.

I don't ordinarily pay attention to playground arguments, but that
last paragraph interested me.

Is it your contention that a disproportionate number of those whom you
call "conservatives" are now seeking aid from programs that they
previously opposed?

....or, did I read it wrong?

cheers

oz

On Jan 3, 8:33*pm, MajorOz wrote:

I don't ordinarily pay attention to playground arguments, but that
last paragraph interested me.

Well, we all unaccountably stumble upon things occasionally.

Is it your contention that a disproportionate number of those whom you
call "conservatives" are now seeking aid from programs that they
previously opposed?

...or, did I read it wrong?

I won't try to answer for Dave (god knows I'd probably have a
difficult time making much more sense of what he says than he can) but
it's hardly a secret that folks everywhere have always generally
approved of programs from which they benefit and not so much of those
from which they do not. Thus, clearly, approval ratings tend to
fluctuate somewhat depending on who benefits when and who don't.

Do you know a lot of people who formerly and vigorously opposed one
program or another from which they did not qualify to benefit, and who
now hold fast to that disapproval when they do qualify?

giles
whose mother never raised such a foolish child.

On Jan 3, 6:33*pm, MajorOz wrote:
On Jan 2, 11:34*am, DaveS wrote:





On Jan 2, 8:16*am, "~^ beancounter ~^" wrote:

yawn.........did you say something DaveS?

On Jan 1, 7:32*pm, DaveS wrote:

On Dec 31 2009, 8:08*pm, "~^ beancounter ~^"
wrote:

It's a fact: you're a Tory fisherperson. Tories fish cheeseballs. You
fish cheeseballs.
Don't fight it. Be comfortable with your inner Tory.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

. . . *flies.

Don't struggle with it too much; I might adjust the reading level down
if maybe you could share your recipe for your go-to Velvetta
Cheeseball fly.?

Easily led, simple answer seekers like you, believers in witchcraft
like Palin, and arm chair warriors like Cheney are unfortunate but
disposable political fellow travelers for real conservatives. These
folks will have their papa's money, high heels, book contracts and
born-again scams to keep them in German wheels. But what about your
kind?

The food banks and church handout programs are full of confused,
whimpering former big pie hole wingnuts like you right now, begging
for help from program's and people they trashed just months ago,
before their safe little wingnut worlds crumbled leaving their
arrogance naked of security.

I don't ordinarily pay attention to playground arguments, but that
last paragraph interested me.

Is it your contention that a disproportionate number of those whom you
call "conservatives" are now seeking aid from programs that they
previously opposed?

...or, did I read it wrong?

cheers

oz- Hide quoted text -

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Fair question. Disproportionate? No, I have no basis for saying that
in this specific downturn, people who hold conservative political
views, are more likely to be seeking assistance from agencies/churches
than people who do not have such views. Don't think what I did say
implied that.

It would be pretty hard to tease out answers to that question even if
I were still active professionally. For one, educational levels are
associated with political outlook, as is geography, gender, ethnicity
etc. ie just too many complex variables for a straight up analysis,
and I never felt good about ANOVA or factor analysis anyway. My
opinions are based on personal and shared experiences, no more.

But I will venture this; This recession has dug deeper into some of
the small independent business sectors (than past downturns, when we
had a larger manufacturing base) specifically residential
construction, FIRE (finance, insurance and reat estate), and some of
the tech service areas. These are the "newcomers" in the unemployment
offices and foodbanks. And generally, they break toward the Republican
side, even in the NW. In the foodbanks its some of the above, but more
noticeably, elderly and single parent suburban females that are more
in evidence, as well as male construction and home service
businessmen.

Ive talked to lots of ES and UI staff and customers over decades and
in many states, Red and Blue. The worse the economy, the better was my
consulting business. From personal experience in past recessions and
some mass layoffs I worked professionally, I know that the newly and
rarely unemployed tend to be more conservative. How do I know this?
Because people tell you all kinds of stuff when they are up against
the wall, whether you want to know or not. Most often they want you to
know that they are "not that kind" or this is their first time blah
blah blah. And they do say things like "6 months ago I thought this
program was for bums" etc.

And sometimes they think weird stuff and bring it with them: for
example I remember one guy who wanted the employment counselor helping
him fired because a man in the poster on the wall had arm muscles and
therefore was Marxist in his eyes, seriously. I recall another example
when I found several laid off "patriots" had intimidated a young
counselor into approving expensive helicopter retraining. There are
also folks who want to scream out their beliefs and a few want to hurt
someone as a part of their employment service experience.. And there
are a very few people who bring guns with them. Bottonline, there is
lots of emotion concentrated in one place when the labor market goes
cacahuate, and people want to "tell their story."

Foodbanks are somewhat different. The best try to mimic a grocery
store, with carts, choices and pleasant space. However, humiliation
for people who are not used to being dependent is never far away.
People know why they are there. I traveled lots for work but Ive lived
in the same 22k affluent community for 38 years. I know something of
peoples politics and I know who I see at the food bank. This recession
is not skipping conservatives.

All of this is not saying that people with rightwing views get their
"comeuppance" when they come for help. Ive never seen public or non-
profit program staff use this vulnerability as a supposed "teaching
moment" for making conservatives somehow more compassionate and
liberal. Rightwing politics in these service environments is just
baggage and slows up service for other people. But there are
occasions, as program staff will tell you, that they have to take
ideological **** and abuse at the same time they are helping the same
people get thru their bad times. Its just the way it is.

However I personally believe that most adults learn understanding and
compassion from life's experiences, and I believe that these
experiences moderate rigid political beliefs. I also believe that all
public human services facilities should have "safe rooms" for when the
inevitable whackjob (wingnut or otherwise) wants to hasten
Gotterdammerung. But that's a whole nuther rant.

Dave
As to your "playground" insult . . . duely noted culero.