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Old February 7th, 2004, 09:47 PM
Steve_sullivan
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Why are steelhead rainbow pink and resident rainbow white? (the inside
meat).

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Old February 7th, 2004, 10:32 PM
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Steve_sullivan wrote:
Why are steelhead rainbow pink and resident rainbow white? (the
inside
meat).

They're not. Any fish has different color depending on what he's
eaten. freshly planted hatchery fish have white meat because they've
been eating beef by-products and such. The pink meat comes from fish
that eat shrimp and scuds and most bugs. predatory fish often have
lighter meat. Even king salmon come with white meat if their diet is
right. The white kings taste just as good as the red ones.

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Old February 7th, 2004, 10:41 PM
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To some extent, the color of the meat in fish is determined by what they
eat. Trout that eat a lot of shrimp (and scuds) have pink meat. Trout that
eat mostly aquatic insects have white meat.
However salmon and steelhead are invariable pink or slightly orange. If you
eat steelhead that have been in fresh water for months eating mostly
insects, they are still a light orange. . It is arguable about how much
steelhead eat after they enter fresh water. However they eat enough that
you can catch them a nymphs and occasionlly dry flies
Salmon eat nothing once they come into fresh water: some people believe that
most salmon are snagged because it is impossible for them to eat after they
have been in fresh water for a day or so.
Trout that go to the ocean are usually called "sea run trout". there are
types of cuttthroat and rainbows that spend some time in salt water. they
are different than steelhead.

I read and I cannot remember where, that when settlers originally traveled
to the west coast and discovered "rainbows", they had difficulty moving them
to new streams because they wanted to return to the ocean. Finall The
McClaod and Eagle Lake strains were found which did not have this tendency.
Most planted fish now come from these strains.

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Why are steelhead rainbow pink and resident rainbow white? (the inside
meat).

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Old February 7th, 2004, 10:56 PM
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On the north end of the island of Adak (in the Aleutians) at the foot of Mt.
Moffett is a fresh water lake. The fish caught there are called Japanese
Perch, or at least that is what we called them. They could get quite large
(for a perch) and were very tasty. Only problem was that the meat was blue,
about the color of the sky. When it was cooked, the meat turned white. What
would cause this meat to be blue?
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Old February 7th, 2004, 11:00 PM
Sierra fisher
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Maybe they were cold!


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On the north end of the island of Adak (in the Aleutians) at the foot of

Mt.
Moffett is a fresh water lake. The fish caught there are called Japanese
Perch, or at least that is what we called them. They could get quite

large
(for a perch) and were very tasty. Only problem was that the meat was

blue,
about the color of the sky. When it was cooked, the meat turned white.

What
would cause this meat to be blue?
Dave

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Old February 7th, 2004, 11:52 PM
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"Sierra fisher" wrote:
... snip ...
Salmon eat nothing once they come into fresh water: some people
believe that
most salmon are snagged because it is impossible for them to eat after
they
have been in fresh water for a day or so.


My son Andy caught a Silver salmon last year on the Skagit above
Rockport that had a skulpin and a half digested whitefish in it's
stomach. I've found that the fish quit feeding as they get close to
spawning, but that it's not necessarily related to when they enter the
rivers. The same is true of the change from ocean coloration to
spawning colors. Andy's fish was ocean bright, but had no sea lice.
That indicates he'd been in the river a few days. Considering that
he'd come more than 70 miles upstream in a big river that makes sense.
The fish was caught in October, and the fish was probably going to
spawn in November or December.

It's rare to find anything in a salmon or steelhead's stomach, but it
does happen. Deschutes and Kalama steelhead often have a stomach full
of grasshoppers or stonefly nymphs.

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Old February 8th, 2004, 12:28 AM
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote

.. Only problem was that the meat was blue,
about the color of the sky. When it was cooked, the meat turned white.

What
would cause this meat to be blue?
Dave


if god were not a tar heel, then why are valium, viagra, and this
bizarre fish meat, *carolina blue*?

yfitons
wayno


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Old February 8th, 2004, 12:39 AM
Dave LaCourse
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Chas writes:

I'm not sure what food it is, but Ling Cod have a tendancy to be a pale
blue too. Any idea what these perch ate? Were there any other fish in
the lake? Was it pure fresh water, or brackish?


The water was very clear and it was fresh water. There is a salt water
Japanese Perch that was (is?) caught commercially. It was a very tasty meal.
Several Chiefs would go fishing and we'd have a fish fry in the CPO Mess.
Beside the perch, there were Dolly Varden caught in another much smaller lake.
Great eating. But blue flesh was a little freaky.
Dave

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