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Wow, it seems like our 630 registered members would think differently
than you. But that doesn't surprise me, small minds tend to try to whine alot like yourself. Cyliwrote: On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:22:23 -0500, lid (yellowchaser) wrote: Myself I have no problem with advertising as everyone wants to call it, when it is showing someone a resource that costs them nothing to use and pertain to the subject that the reader is researching on, as in fishing. Yes, we noticed that. And you weren't snarled at the first couple of times you did it. It was the damn repetition and this sort of nit-picking whining that finally got me to putting my own snarl in. You and mechanic mike over in the camping groups. Geeze. The only difference was that he's small time commercial. So you made your own private sandbox and you're proud of it. Fine. So far it as that it was a good thing. A couple of times giving a notice of it was okay. But you had to keep pounding on it. "Oh, don't play in that dirty public place, kids, come to _my_ sandbox and play. I'll give you free stuff if you come play in my place." And then again and again. And when someone who's happy in the public sandbox asked you to just go play in your own and stop nagging at him, this started. And your original stated objection was, I believe, to this newsgroup being useless because of porn and advertising? Well, you've got your very own clean place. Will you please play in it and leave us to play in ours? A once a month announcement should be more than sufficient for you to gather an initial group and get them going and occasionally add a member. If it's not, maybe your sandbox isn't as much fun to play in for them as this dirty old place? Maybe your free stuff is hard to find or hard to use or just not good enough? If Rodney is still here maybe he can tell you what effect relentless advertising has on us. He calmed down a lot after a while and stopped putting in all his plugs for his lures. When last I noticed him, he was trying to be helpful and not interjecting his wonderful stuff without cause more often than whenever he made a new project. Has if occurred to you that if you make general information posts here and if you answer any questions in a helpful way, that people will eventually notice your sig file and go to your Web place and try it? But if all they see here are your repetitive advertising and complaints about your repetitive advertising and your pathetic self-justifications that they might be just a bit leery of having anything to do with you? No? Thought not. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)[/quote:aaf1089c49] Over 7,000+ Reel, Engine and Trolling Motor Schematics www.hookandsinker.com |
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Cyli wrote:
If Rodney is still here maybe he can tell you what effect relentless advertising has on us. He calmed down a lot after a while and stopped putting in all his plugs for his lures. When last I noticed him, he was trying to be helpful and not interjecting his wonderful stuff without cause more often than whenever he made a new project. Oh I'm still here, and news groups don't really want news (new things on the market, in the subject of the group, they fear they must buy something) they would rather read about it in a rag, months latter, when everyone then knows about it. it does not give them any early edge in fishing. The problem is, I can't even give a fishing report on these groups,, because I was using my latest and greatest terminal tackle, they then claim all I'm doing is spamming. Well all I use is my tackle, so I can't tell them how to increase their catches. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Newbies is right.
Well, at least she isn't complaining about us top-posting yet. Cyli, again, back to Charters. You are wrong wrong wrong. Ads have nothing to do with what your version of netiquette is. Charters that tackle advertisements have a multitude of options: 1) First-party ads allowed 2) Third-party ads allowed 3) Ads allowed in sig 4) Sig only 4 lines or less 5) Banners in sig line I've been in so many groups, I've seen all those. Just because you and the other guy think sig ads are ok doesn't make it so. And it doesn't make them NOT ads, either. What does THIS group's charter say? Bet it says you aren't supposed to have OT threads like this one.... John "yellowchaser" wrote in message ... HaHa I love messages from newbies like yourself that think that know all about the world. I was using the internet when your parents were still cleaning your diapers. As you can see since it is a free world still, since you are not in charge, I can and will post in any dirty old sandbox that I like if that is what it takes to let the genuine people know, including your little sandbox babe. And our security is alot better than you think babe. It keeps newbies like yourself from messing things up for everyone else haha. But it was nice hearing from you Oh and P.s. thanks for keeping the topic hot by responding. The smart thing would have been to have let it die out, but then again I can tell by your mentality that you don't think that way. Cyliwrote: On Sat, 09 Apr 2005 20:22:23 -0500, lid (yellowchaser) wrote: And how is you sig pointing to your site displaying your artwork any different, what does artwork have to do with the fishing newsgroup anyway? Can't we stay on the subject of the newsgroup or should everyone just be trying to push their Viagra wares in their sigs too. Did you even read what I wrote, newbbie? Sig files can say anything. Yes, even have Viagra ads (though most who advertise that sort of thing are not the least interested in posting anything but their SPAM). As long as they're less than 4 lines total. How many months have your been using the 'Net? If it's more than 4, you should have learned about "Nettiquette" by now. My art has nothing to do with any of the newsgroups I post in. I know that. That's why I DON'T ADVERTISE IT IN THE BODY OF MY POSTS, even if I were to post in an art group. Though it's more free than your Web site, as I don't require that anyone register to look at it, meaning I can't get their email addresses and any other information about them and I have no chance of 'moderating' any of their opinions about it. Which also means that nobody who can hack my site will get any advantage out of it other than the possibility of destroying my page. What can they get out of your Web site? Cyliwrote: On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 03:51:52 GMT, "Tex John" wrote: (snipped) You know, you have yet to link to the NG's charter saying his free adverts are worse than your free adverts. Well, since the 'Net, in general, historically accepts advertising of 4 lines or less in sig files and in general, historically does not accept advertising in the body of posts, particularly if it's all the post is about, that's where this all started. So that's the difference. Cyli r.bc: vixen. Minnow goddess. Speaker to squirrels. Often taunted by trout. Almost entirely harmless. http://www.visi.com/~cyli email: lid (strip the .invalid to email)[/quote:87f7724d13] Over 7,000+ Reel, Engine and Trolling Motor Schematics www.hookandsinker.com |
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Yeah, on our local (well, as local as you can be and still cover all of
Texas) fishing forum, 90% of the sal****er reports are from "captains" complete with links to their websites. They are out there every day with up to 3 different boats and guides going. I may not like thier bait selection, but at least I know what's biting! Without them, we'd have almost no reports at all much less reports that cover such a large number of acres and hours fished. Too bad these kids are running off us old-timers. I just almost can't stand posting in a programming newsgroup...talk about the kids running you off, broom in hand and the whole lot! Have a good one, Rodney, John "Rodney" wrote in message ... Cyli wrote: If Rodney is still here maybe he can tell you what effect relentless advertising has on us. He calmed down a lot after a while and stopped putting in all his plugs for his lures. When last I noticed him, he was trying to be helpful and not interjecting his wonderful stuff without cause more often than whenever he made a new project. Oh I'm still here, and news groups don't really want news (new things on the market, in the subject of the group, they fear they must buy something) they would rather read about it in a rag, months latter, when everyone then knows about it. it does not give them any early edge in fishing. The problem is, I can't even give a fishing report on these groups,, because I was using my latest and greatest terminal tackle, they then claim all I'm doing is spamming. Well all I use is my tackle, so I can't tell them how to increase their catches. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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I agree with you Rodney, it is a shame that if you do find a better
way of doing things or a way of increasing your catches that you can't even tell others about it without being accused of spamming or just trying to sell something. In my case Hook & Sinker has been around since 1998 and we still don't charge for anything on the site, so how if you give all your services away to help others is that construde as spamming. Personally I thought that was what the newsgroups were about, communicating good resources, great tackle or anything else that is helpful. Here's a sample report that I guess is expected to be posted: If you want to catch more fish at Lake Whatever, stop by *sorry can't name the store* and pick up some *sorry can't name the bait*, if you want to see some of the photos and read the full fishing report, go to *sorry can't post the url*.. now doesn't that make for a helpful post. Rodneywrote: Cyli wrote: If Rodney is still here maybe he can tell you what effect relentless advertising has on us. He calmed down a lot after a while and stopped putting in all his plugs for his lures. When last I noticed him, he was trying to be helpful and not interjecting his wonderful stuff without cause more often than whenever he made a new project. Oh I'm still here, and news groups don't really want news (new things on the market, in the subject of the group, they fear they must buy something) they would rather read about it in a rag, months latter, when everyone then knows about it. it does not give them any early edge in fishing. The problem is, I can't even give a fishing report on these groups,, because I was using my latest and greatest terminal tackle, they then claim all I'm doing is spamming. Well all I use is my tackle, so I can't tell them how to increase their catches. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com[/quote:17f6b4c4ae] Over 7,000+ Reel, Engine and Trolling Motor Schematics www.hookandsinker.com |
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And Rodney you are more than welcome to post your products in our
classifieds section at http://www.hookandsinker.com/classifieds.html, if you need anything or have any questions you let me know, thanks dude. Rodneywrote: Cyli wrote: If Rodney is still here maybe he can tell you what effect relentless advertising has on us. He calmed down a lot after a while and stopped putting in all his plugs for his lures. When last I noticed him, he was trying to be helpful and not interjecting his wonderful stuff without cause more often than whenever he made a new project. Oh I'm still here, and news groups don't really want news (new things on the market, in the subject of the group, they fear they must buy something) they would rather read about it in a rag, months latter, when everyone then knows about it. it does not give them any early edge in fishing. The problem is, I can't even give a fishing report on these groups,, because I was using my latest and greatest terminal tackle, they then claim all I'm doing is spamming. Well all I use is my tackle, so I can't tell them how to increase their catches. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com[/quote:add3a94a5d] Over 7,000+ Reel, Engine and Trolling Motor Schematics www.hookandsinker.com |
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yellowchaser wrote:
I agree with you Rodney, it is a shame that if you do find a better way of doing things or a way of increasing your catches that you can't even tell others about it without being accused of spamming or just trying to sell something. In my case Hook & Sinker has been around since 1998 and we still don't charge for anything on the site, so how if you give all your services away to help others is that construde as spamming. Personally I thought that was what the newsgroups were about, communicating good resources, great tackle or anything else that is helpful. Hay man I loved your site,, but I can't find the dang SST map link How about sending it to me :-) -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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yellowchaser wrote:
And Rodney you are more than welcome to post your products in our classifieds section at http://www.hookandsinker.com/classifieds.html, if you need anything or have any questions you let me know, thanks dude. Actually I don't have any products,, I'm just the inventor of other companies products, (well I do have some bungee material left, but not for long) but since I get a roylity, they say I'm spamming, they don't understand Millions of people know of my products, it's not worth my time to post them on News groups to make a nickel. What a couple hundred fishermen read these groups, the one advice column in Bassmasters got 2.5 million fishermen just last month. I do 2 to 8 interviews with outdoor writers every week, that have millions of readers. -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Hay man I loved your site,, but I can't find the dang SST map link How about sending it to me :-) Right on the left menu...he's even got it in red now! And our Bay finally broke 70 according to that map... hth John |
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You can find it on the left menu "Sea Surface Temperature Maps" or
here is the direct link http://www.hookandsinker.com/sst.html Rodneywrote: yellowchaser wrote: I agree with you Rodney, it is a shame that if you do find a better way of doing things or a way of increasing your catches that you can't even tell others about it without being accused of spamming or just trying to sell something. In my case Hook & Sinker has been around since 1998 and we still don't charge for anything on the site, so how if you give all your services away to help others is that construde as spamming. Personally I thought that was what the newsgroups were about, communicating good resources, great tackle or anything else that is helpful. Hay man I loved your site,, but I can't find the dang SST map link How about sending it to me :-) -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Long Shot "WIGGLE" rig, SpecTastic Thread Boomerang Fishing Pro. ,Stand Out Hooks ,Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Decoy Activator and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com[/quote:750b9bb5f7] Over 7,000+ Reel, Engine and Trolling Motor Schematics www.hookandsinker.com |
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