New Season - New License

Just in case there's anyone out there as forgetful as me a new license is
required in England & Wales as of today!

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...sion=1&lang=_e

I've been so busy in work plus chasing membership fee's from forgetful
members in my fishing club and repairing styles etc on the river beat, I
completely forgot to buy a new license myself!!

I purchased online about 30 mins ago. Sheesh!



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Andy Lawson

On Fri, 1 Apr 2005 18:10:24 +0100, A strange species called "Andy
Lawson" wrote:

Just in case there's anyone out there as forgetful as me a new license is
required in England & Wales as of today!

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...sion=1&lang=_e

I've been so busy in work plus chasing membership fee's from forgetful
members in my fishing club and repairing styles etc on the river beat, I
completely forgot to buy a new license myself!!

I purchased online about 30 mins ago. Sheesh!


Hi mate! I have a couple of questions for you as I've not been fishing
for ages. I hope you or others can help.

The last time I went fishing was the late 80's early 90s, so there was
no rod license back then, just some water authority type of license.

This license from the Environment Agency, I don't completely
understand it.

If I wanted to fish on a river for Brown Trout, I would just choose
the non-migratory trout and course license right? What if I caught a
sea trout or salmon by accident though? This is the part I don't
understand.

Is the Salmon and Sea Trout license just for people who take home the
fish to eat?

I also don't understand why there is such a difference in price? It
seems to be about three times more expensive for the salmon and sea
trout license.

Is this the only license I need to fish anywhere in the country except
for private grounds?

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

And finally just one more question. Is there a certain time of year
when I can't fish anywhere, on any waters? If so when is it? Or does
it vary in different places? How would I find out that info?

Cheers

John

In article , John
writes

If I wanted to fish on a river for Brown Trout, I would just choose
the non-migratory trout and course license right? What if I caught a
sea trout or salmon by accident though? This is the part I don't
understand.
The E.A. have, for reasons best known to themselves, included trout (a
game fish) in with coarse fish. Should you catch a Sea Trout (Sewin in
Wales) of Salmon you must release them unharmed to the watrer.

Is the Salmon and Sea Trout license just for people who take home the
fish to eat?

Salon and sea Trout License allows you to fish for the said fish at the
appropriate time of the year with rod and line. Youcan take them honme
and eat them if you wish except for Salmon which must be returned
unharmed if caught before 16 June in England and Wales.

I also don't understand why there is such a difference in price? It
seems to be about three times more expensive for the salmon and sea
trout license.
Tell us about it!!!

Is this the only license I need to fish anywhere in the country except
for private grounds?

You need a licence to fish with rod and line whether the fishing is
public or private. Most fishing is private be it club water private
individual or stillwater.

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

A licence states you may fish with rod and line not two rods and lines.

And finally just one more question. Is there a certain time of year
when I can't fish anywhere, on any waters? If so when is it? Or does
it vary in different places? How would I find out that info?

The licence will give you the information.

You may not fish for indigenous fish during the close season. Rainbow
Trout in stillwater fisheries are usually available all the year round.
Some reservoirs close fo the winter

The above are general comments which may or may not be entirely
accurate.

--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

Hi All
Just bought my licence and it has the words "Duty Paid" upon it.
Licence my ass
Its a tax.
No more, no less.
Keith M
"Andy Lawson" wrote in message
...
Just in case there's anyone out there as forgetful as me a new license is
required in England & Wales as of today!

http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk...sion=1&lang=_e

I've been so busy in work plus chasing membership fee's from forgetful
members in my fishing club and repairing styles etc on the river beat, I
completely forgot to buy a new license myself!!

I purchased online about 30 mins ago. Sheesh!



--
Andy Lawson

Hi Bill.

So technically you can still fish for them but not eat them with the
cheaper license? That's good. I don't really like the taste of Salmon
or Trout anyway and would release back. I love game fishing though.

Is the Salmon and Sea Trout license just for people who take home the
fish to eat?

Salon and sea Trout License allows you to fish for the said fish at the
appropriate time of the year with rod and line. Youcan take them honme
and eat them if you wish except for Salmon which must be returned
unharmed if caught before 16 June in England and Wales.

I also don't understand why there is such a difference in price? It
seems to be about three times more expensive for the salmon and sea
trout license.
Tell us about it!!!

Who was responsible for the setting up of the EA? The last time I
went fishing I think it was called the NRA or something?

Is this the only license I need to fish anywhere in the country except
for private grounds?

You need a licence to fish with rod and line whether the fishing is
public or private. Most fishing is private be it club water private
individual or stillwater.

I would still need to pay extra to fish on some private grounds
wouldn't I?

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

A licence states you may fish with rod and line not two rods and lines.

Okay. Could I have two rods with me though and just be using one at a
time? It's not really clear I don't think?

And finally just one more question. Is there a certain time of year
when I can't fish anywhere, on any waters? If so when is it? Or does
it vary in different places? How would I find out that info?

The licence will give you the information.

You may not fish for indigenous fish during the close season. Rainbow

When is close season? I take it indigenous means Brown and Wild Trout
as far as game goes? Sea Trout and Salmon, can't really be classed
indigenous can they?

As far as the prices go. Surely such a high price for the game
fishing is a very bad idea. It would surely just encourage people to
go out and kill loads of fish and sell them to recoup some cost of the
license?

John

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:01:06 +0100, A strange species called "Keith.M"
wrote:

Hi All
Just bought my licence and it has the words "Duty Paid" upon it.
Licence my ass
Its a tax.
No more, no less.
Keith M

As with everything these days especially under Labour government

Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

Has the bright idea to put the congestion tax up to £8 (a 60%
increase) because "he believes it will reduce congestion". He doesn't
believe that at all. He knows it wont, it will just generate more
money for his office and penalise decent people. I guess it serves
the London people right though for electing and then re-electing a
commie.

John

"W. D. Grey" wrote in message
...
In article , John
writes

snip

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

A licence states you may fish with rod and line not two rods and lines.

Unless you are fishing for coarse fish or eels, in which case it *does*
state you may fish with two rods and lines :-)

According to the 'FAQ' on the EA website.

In message
John wrote:

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:01:06 +0100, A strange species called "Keith.M"
wrote:

Hi All
Just bought my licence and it has the words "Duty Paid" upon it.
Licence my ass
Its a tax.
No more, no less.
Keith M

As with everything these days especially under Labour government

Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

ohhhh, please..... this is a fishing newsgroup, not a loony political rant
soapbox....



I guess it serves the London people right though for electing and
then re-electing a commie.

**** 'em....

Please keep your political ramblings for those newsgroups where it
is welcomed. Not here.

To get back to the topic....

To fish for freshwater fish anywhere in England or Wales you need a rod
licence from the EA. Available at Post Offices or online.

The basic licence allows you to fish for coarse fish with up to 2 rods,
but only one rod for trout and char. You may not fish for salmon or
sea trout on this licence, even if you do not intend to keep them. If
you catch such a fish accidentally, you are required to return it to the
water in as fine a state as possible.


If you wish to fish for sea trout or salmon, you need to pay more for a
'migratory' licence - which also covers the above.

Salmon and sea trout *are* indigenous to the UK - but are migratory.
Rainbow trout (and other variants, excluding browns) are not.

Once you have your EA licence (think of it as a gun licence) - you still
need permission of the owner to fish any water, be it lake or river.
This usually means buying a licence to fish - afaik, there is no 'free'
fishing to be had in England/Wales.

As for open / closed seasons: if the fishery is a private pond, stocked
with rainbow trout, you can fish it all year round, subject to the
conditions laid down by the owner. However, any waters holding brown trout
have a closed season which usually stretches from the end of September to
mid-March - although exact dates may vary depending upon the location.

The open season for sea trout and salmon may be different, again depending
upon the location - but any salmon caught before June 16 MUST be returned.

As for the cost of these licences..hmm.... well, nobody likes paying out -
but given the dosh that people spend on their interests these days, I
personally don't think that it's too bad for a year's sport. (heads for
cover...)


hth,

Dave



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.... Street Fighter II. Four disk game of ultimate boredom.

In article , John
writes
Hi Bill.

So technically you can still fish for them but not eat them with the
cheaper license? That's good. I don't really like the taste of Salmon
or Trout anyway and would release back. I love game fishing though.

Is the Salmon and Sea Trout license just for people who take home the
fish to eat?

Read what I said below about June 16th regarding the taking of SALMON.

Salon and sea Trout License allows you to fish for the said fish at the
appropriate time of the year with rod and line. Youcan take them honme
and eat them if you wish except for Salmon which must be returned
unharmed if caught before 16 June in England and Wales.



Is this the only license I need to fish anywhere in the country except
for private grounds?

You need a license to fish with rod and line full stop (The except
private grounds doesn't come into it)

You need a licence to fish with rod and line whether the fishing is
public or private. Most fishing is private be it club water private
individual or stillwater.

Again I say read what I have written!

I would still need to pay extra to fish on some private grounds
wouldn't I?

It depends on the owner if the fishing rights. You'd be damn lucky to
find decent free fishing.

If I have two fishing rods, does this mean I can only use one at a
time?

A licence states you may fish with rod and line not two rods and lines.

Okay. Could I have two rods with me though and just be using one at a
time? It's not really clear I don't think?

I don't see why you can't fish with two rods provided you have two
licences. Some reservoir fishermen like to have two rods set up one for
nymph or lure and the other for dry fly . they may or may not be allowed
to have two rods assembled at the same time though.

And finally just one more question. Is there a certain time of year
when I can't fish anywhere, on any waters? If so when is it? Or does
it vary in different places? How would I find out that info?

The licence will give you the information.

You may not fish for indigenous fish during the close season. Rainbow

When is close season? I take it indigenous means Brown and Wild Trout
as far as game goes? Sea Trout and Salmon, can't really be classed
indigenous can they?

Salmon and sea trout certainly are indigenous - they are born in this
country!

Your license will tell you this.

As far as the prices go. Surely such a high price for the game
fishing is a very bad idea. It would surely just encourage people to
go out and kill loads of fish and sell them to recoup some cost of the
license?

It does happen!

John

Regards,
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

In article , John
writes
On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:01:06 +0100, A strange species called "Keith.M"
wrote:

Hi All
Just bought my licence and it has the words "Duty Paid" upon it.
Licence my ass
Its a tax.
No more, no less.
Keith M

As with everything these days especially under Labour government

Look at Ken Livingstone! Communist, Racist, Terror Supporter, Labour
Party Member and Lord Mayor of London!

Has the bright idea to put the congestion tax up to £8 (a 60%
increase) because "he believes it will reduce congestion". He doesn't
believe that at all. He knows it wont, it will just generate more
money for his office and penalise decent people. I guess it serves
the London people right though for electing and then re-electing a
commie.

John


We are prepare to answer fishing questions to help newcomers to the
sport, so **** off with your politics
--
Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk