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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
Company fined for cutting trees in national forest
Thursday, September 18, 2003 Posted: 7:14 PM EDT (2314 GMT) http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest...settlement.ap/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Story Tools COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) -- Officials of Plum Creek Timber Co. have agreed to pay nearly $66,000 in restitution and a $1,000 fine for allegedly illegally cutting millions of board feet of timber on the Clearwater National Forest. "We take this very seriously," said Tom Ray, the company's Northwest Region general manager. "We have made changes in our system to prevent this from happening again." The Seattle, Washington-based company was cited last month with nearly a dozen misdemeanor logging and other violations. It negotiated a plea bargain under which it pleaded no contest to two charges of cutting or damaging trees on federal land. The Forest Service claimed that between June 2000 and October 2002, independent loggers hired by Plum Creek strayed across property lines and cut more than 1,100 trees -- nearly 88 million board feet -- on Clearwater National Forest land adjacent to corporate land. Regional Forester Kathleen McAllister said the agreement not only compensates taxpayers for the timber but means "Plum Creek will change its procedures and take the necessary steps to not cross property lines." A separate civil suit is pending against Plum Creek to recover the $12 million the federal government spent in 2000 to fight wildfires allegedly started on Plum Creek land before spreading to federal land. The company has maintained that its employees were not involved in starting the fires. But Doug Gochnour at the Clearwater National Forest said both the company and the loggers it had hired are named in the suit. "Somebody should pay because the public shouldn't," Gochnour said. Investigators say the 275-acre Bear Camp fire started when a skidding cable rubbing against rocks sent sparks into dry underbrush and the 4,800-acre Crooked fire ignited when a skyline hoist engine used to pull logs up a slope spewed hot exhaust into a slash pile. |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
In article , Jim ruminated:
COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) -- Officials of Plum Creek Timber Co. have agreed to pay nearly $66,000 in restitution and a $1,000 fine for allegedly illegally cutting millions of board feet of timber on the Clearwater National Forest. .... The Forest Service claimed that between June 2000 and October 2002, independent loggers hired by Plum Creek strayed across property lines and cut more than 1,100 trees -- nearly 88 million board feet -- on Clearwater National Forest land adjacent to corporate land. Oh boy, given that this "fine" is less than half of what those trees were worth on the open market, I'm sure that this is going to make this company reluctant to sneak onto National Forest lands in the future. Yeah right. -- Eric Lee Green -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 100,000 Newsgroups - 19 Different Servers! =----- |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
Most large companies incorporate such fines/penalties into their yearly
budgets . . . it's part of the game, and not surprising at all. "Jim" wrote in message om... Company fined for cutting trees in national forest Thursday, September 18, 2003 Posted: 7:14 PM EDT (2314 GMT) http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest...settlement.ap/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ Story Tools COEUR D'ALENE, Idaho (AP) -- Officials of Plum Creek Timber Co. have agreed to pay nearly $66,000 in restitution and a $1,000 fine for allegedly illegally cutting millions of board feet of timber on the Clearwater National Forest. "We take this very seriously," said Tom Ray, the company's Northwest Region general manager. "We have made changes in our system to prevent this from happening again." The Seattle, Washington-based company was cited last month with nearly a dozen misdemeanor logging and other violations. It negotiated a plea bargain under which it pleaded no contest to two charges of cutting or damaging trees on federal land. The Forest Service claimed that between June 2000 and October 2002, independent loggers hired by Plum Creek strayed across property lines and cut more than 1,100 trees -- nearly 88 million board feet -- on Clearwater National Forest land adjacent to corporate land. Regional Forester Kathleen McAllister said the agreement not only compensates taxpayers for the timber but means "Plum Creek will change its procedures and take the necessary steps to not cross property lines." A separate civil suit is pending against Plum Creek to recover the $12 million the federal government spent in 2000 to fight wildfires allegedly started on Plum Creek land before spreading to federal land. The company has maintained that its employees were not involved in starting the fires. But Doug Gochnour at the Clearwater National Forest said both the company and the loggers it had hired are named in the suit. "Somebody should pay because the public shouldn't," Gochnour said. Investigators say the 275-acre Bear Camp fire started when a skidding cable rubbing against rocks sent sparks into dry underbrush and the 4,800-acre Crooked fire ignited when a skyline hoist engine used to pull logs up a slope spewed hot exhaust into a slash pile. |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:56:44 GMT, Tom wrote:
Law enforcement is not an outdoor recreational activity. Take it to alt.law-enforcement. Whining and griping is not an outdoor recreational activity. Take it to alt.stupid.jerk. Elliot Richmond Freelance Science Writer and Editor |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
Tom wrote:
Law enforcement is not an outdoor recreational activity. Take it to alt.law-enforcement. -- Tom Well, but the actions committed by companies and individuals which has an effect on me being able to find places to go persue my outdoor activities do have my interest. The fines are amazingly small for something like this so whats going to stop them for continuing ? The current administration ? -- |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:44:35 -0700, Svend Tang-Petersen
wrote: Tom wrote: Law enforcement is not an outdoor recreational activity. Take it to alt.law-enforcement. -- Tom Well, but the actions committed by companies and individuals which has an effect on me being able to find places to go persue my outdoor activities do have my interest. The fines are amazingly small for something like this so whats going to stop them for continuing ? The current administration ? It is useless to reason with Tom. He is single-minded in pursuit of his chosen vocation of self-appointed net nanny. The irony of the fact that he has never posted anything on topic continually escapes him. Elliot Richmond Freelance Science Writer and Editor |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
Well, the good thing about all this is that he cant really prevent anyone from posting in the first place. Elliot Richmond wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:44:35 -0700, Svend Tang-Petersen wrote: Tom wrote: Law enforcement is not an outdoor recreational activity. Take it to alt.law-enforcement. -- Tom Well, but the actions committed by companies and individuals which has an effect on me being able to find places to go persue my outdoor activities do have my interest. The fines are amazingly small for something like this so whats going to stop them for continuing ? The current administration ? It is useless to reason with Tom. He is single-minded in pursuit of his chosen vocation of self-appointed net nanny. The irony of the fact that he has never posted anything on topic continually escapes him. Elliot Richmond Freelance Science Writer and Editor -- Svend ************************************************** ***************** Svend Tang-Petersen, MSc Email: SGI Pager: 1600 Amphitheatre Pkwy Phone: (+1) 650 933 3618 Mountain View California 94043 USA ************************************************** ***************** |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 22:01:05 GMT, Elliot Richmond
wrote: On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 14:44:35 -0700, Svend Tang-Petersen wrote: Tom wrote: Law enforcement is not an outdoor recreational activity. Take it to alt.law-enforcement. Tom Well, but the actions committed by companies and individuals which has an effect on me being able to find places to go persue my outdoor activities do have my interest. The fines are amazingly small for something like this so whats going to stop them for continuing ? The current administration ? It is useless to reason with Tom. He is single-minded in pursuit of his chosen vocation of self-appointed net nanny. The irony of the fact that he has never posted anything on topic continually escapes him. Tom is very particular in who he tries to censor. It is not topics, but people he doesn't like or agree with. He especially goes after one side of the political-type posts, which is far more political and off-topic than any of them. Totalitarians, from the left and from the right, despise open discussions. And, he tries to hide by changing his address to foil filters, and thinking he hides his posts from Google. Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) ------------------------------------------------ at the 51st percentile of ursine intelligence Gary D. Schwartz, Needham, MA, USA Please reply to: garyDOTschwartzATpoboxDOTcom |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
"Gary S." Idontwantspam@net wrote in message ... And, he tries to hide by changing his address to foil filters, and thinking he hides his posts from Google. And that's his secong most frustrating habit (Citizen's arrest, citezen's arrest! You posted off-topic! I'm gonna get you TOSed!) Happy trails, Gary (net.yogi.bear) Frank |
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company caught illegaly cutting trees from national forest
Precisely why there is an ELF, Earth First! and a direction action
network. The Feds pat the perps on the back, enabling and encouraging their behaivor. Someone has to put a stop to it. On 22 Sep 2003 23:15:51 -0700, (Jim) wrote: Company fined for cutting trees in national forest Thursday, September 18, 2003 Posted: 7:14 PM EDT (2314 GMT) http://www.cnn.com/2003/US/Southwest...settlement.ap/ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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