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Old December 11th, 2008, 05:49 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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asadi wrote:
....Okay, we are never going to really know what happened to Kennedy....and
I'm ready the latest book by Bugliosi...and I have been cruising around
trying to get information on the World trade center collapses and building
7.

To say that the collapses and how they occurred were 'drilled' into us as a
part of our training is putting it mildly....I have tried to approach it
objectively and to be honest....I no longer believe what I was told..

Anybody got bourbon and a campfire?

john



http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=J0Qu6eyyr4c
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Old December 11th, 2008, 05:57 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Old December 11th, 2008, 07:15 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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.....Okay, we are never going to really know what happened to Kennedy....and
I'm ready the latest book by Bugliosi...and I have been cruising around
trying to get information on the World trade center collapses and building
7.

To say that the collapses and how they occurred were 'drilled' into us as a
part of our training is putting it mildly....I have tried to approach it
objectively and to be honest....I no longer believe what I was told..

Anybody got bourbon and a campfire?

john


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Old December 11th, 2008, 09:00 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Dec 11, 3:15*pm, "asadi" wrote:
....Okay, we are never going to really know what happened to Kennedy....and
I'm ready the latest book by Bugliosi...and I have been cruising around
trying to get information on the World trade center collapses and building
7.

To say that the collapses and how they occurred were 'drilled' into us as a
part of our training is putting it mildly....I have tried to approach it
objectively and to be honest....I no longer believe what I was told..

Anybody got bourbon and a campfire?

john


The whole thing fell apart for me when it was reported that someone
found the passport of one of the hijackers lying in the street near
Ground Zero a few days later.

Yeah, right.

--riverman
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Old December 11th, 2008, 10:58 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:00:59 -0800 (PST), riverman
wrote:

The whole thing fell apart for me when it was reported that someone
found the passport of one of the hijackers lying in the street near
Ground Zero a few days later.


Never heard that one. Urban Myth?


I know I saw two airliners smash into both towers and the resulting
explosions. There will always be conspiracy nuts.

Dave


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Old December 11th, 2008, 02:34 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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asadi wrote:
Try this Dave...

http://www.911weknow.com/


Bah, what a bunch of hooey. I know the real story of 9-11 and many
of you will not be surprised to learn that it's all Bill Clinton's
fault. The Martians did it, with photon torpedoes, from behind the
moon. And how did this involve Clinton, you might well ask ?

On December 12, 2000 (the Martian 4th of July) the Martians sent
to the president a demand for chili Fritos, Ben & Jerry's ice cream
(Cherry Garcia) and Budweiser. Clinton ignored it and the rest is,
as they say, history.

You can believe all that nutty conspiracy theory **** if you want
but that's the *real* story. Sweartagawd.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old December 11th, 2008, 02:53 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Dec 11, 6:58*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:00:59 -0800 (PST), riverman

wrote:
The whole thing fell apart for me when it was reported that someone
found the passport of one of the hijackers lying in the street near
Ground Zero a few days later.


Never heard that one. * Urban Myth?

I know I saw two airliners smash into both towers and the resulting
explosions. *There will always be conspiracy nuts.

Dave


No, actually. Like I said, my BS meter pegged when I heard that,
especially after seeing the video of the TONS of paperwork blowing all
around Ground Zero once the building collapsed. And with all that ash,
garbage and rubble...not to mention the incredibly small footprint of
open street compared to rooftops, etc, in NY, the odds of finding one
of the hijackers' passports was, well, pretty much astronomically
small. The 'official story' is that it was found before the collapse,
but strangely enough, not one other shred of paperwork from the plane
was ever found. The 'tiny footprint' aspect remains.

If you are into source documents, its mentioned almost as an aside on
the bottom of page 1 of the Congressional investigation into 911
http://tinyurl.com/6ayobr but explained in more detail on many news
sites. Wikipedia also makes mention of it, as well as the associated
skepticism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satam_al-Suqami

I'm not doubting that the planes hit the WTC, but I have no assurance
that the 'official line' is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but
the truth.

--riverman
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Old December 11th, 2008, 03:04 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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riverman wrote:
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I'm not doubting that the planes hit the WTC, but I have no assurance
that the 'official line' is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but
the truth.


Those were *not* planes, they were photon torpedoes made to look
like planes by the use of a sophisticated Martian cloaking device.

--
Ken Fortenberry
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Old December 11th, 2008, 03:30 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Thu, 11 Dec 2008 01:00:59 -0800 (PST), riverman
wrote:

The whole thing fell apart for me when it was reported that someone
found the passport of one of the hijackers lying in the street near
Ground Zero a few days later.


Never heard that one. Urban Myth?


I know I saw two airliners smash into both towers and the resulting
explosions. There will always be conspiracy nuts.

Dave



Try this Dave...

http://www.911weknow.com/

The program is about an hour and a half long.... but worth it. If I saw
a photo of a sinking boat I would look to you for advice...

All I can say is...burning buildings don't collapse like the towers did, in
particular building 7

john



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Old December 11th, 2008, 04:05 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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There are conspiracy theorist who blame this on Warren Buffet, AIG, my
company, and a whole host of other folks.
Go to the engineering and construction part of this site
http://www.caddigest.com/subjects/wtc/index.htm for better info on the
collapse.
In short, the heat destroyed the structural integrity of 4 floors.
The weight of the material (floors) on top dropped straight down on
the floors below, exploding them.
Bldg 7 was severely damaged by the fall of the two other towers, lost
structural integrity.
http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...42.html?page=5
Its like the empty beer bottles in my recycling box last night. No
one had been in the garage for two hours. The box was full, but the
bottles were cooling due to the evening chill. After not being
touched for two days (okay, I'm a slacker and haven't had enough beer
lately), one bottle slid of the others and caused a cascade bringing
about 10 others down with it.
I could blame the bottles rolling across my garage floor on ghosts,
unseen alcoholic black bears or Rush Limbaugh. In all honesty, crap
happens when loose structural integrity and entropy finally takes
over.
Frank Reid
 




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