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Old September 28th, 2004, 10:00 PM
go-bassn
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My jury's still out on these two, I appreciate your detailed opinions. I'm
still looking for the optimum hooks to use with these baits:

1) 4-4.5" Flippin' Tube

2) Horny Toad

Please only reply if you've got a REAL WINNER, and please tell me what makes
them so good. I need something that holds up well, and won't turn to rust
just because it's exposed to humid air for a few minutes.

Last week on the Hudson I lost a 4#+ because the barb on my hook had turned
to dust.

I wasn't happy.

Warren
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Old September 28th, 2004, 10:13 PM
Chris Rennert
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Warren,

As you know I am a huge Daiichi fan, I use Daiichis for every single type of
fishing I do. Put it this way, if I got a shot at the Classic tomorrow, I
would only have Daiichi Wide Gap hooks tied on my flipping / pitching rods.

What makes them great to me, first they are amazingly sharp, and strong. I
have never EVER bent a point on one of those hooks. The points are
perfectly round and not a cutting edge, so the hook penetrates and no cuts a
hole in the fishes mouth. I have pulled 10lb steelhead up stream with a #4
DAiichi 4660 jig hook and didn't even bend it a bit. They are chemically
sharpened which also makes them very quick at penetrating (no traces of
excess metal).

I hope this helps, like I said, If I got a shot at the Bassmasters Classic
tomorrow, it would be all Daiichi, I use them for flipping/Pitching, on my
crankbaits (except for Triple grips on the back), on all my jigs from float
and fly to tubes and mushroom heads.

Chris Rennert
"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
My jury's still out on these two, I appreciate your detailed opinions.
I'm
still looking for the optimum hooks to use with these baits:

1) 4-4.5" Flippin' Tube

2) Horny Toad

Please only reply if you've got a REAL WINNER, and please tell me what
makes
them so good. I need something that holds up well, and won't turn to rust
just because it's exposed to humid air for a few minutes.

Last week on the Hudson I lost a 4#+ because the barb on my hook had
turned
to dust.

I wasn't happy.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions







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Old September 28th, 2004, 10:16 PM
Thundercat
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:00:04 -0400, "go-bassn"
wrote:

My jury's still out on these two, I appreciate your detailed opinions. I'm
still looking for the optimum hooks to use with these baits:

1) 4-4.5" Flippin' Tube

2) Horny Toad


I have been very happy with 4/0 texposers on the Horny Toad. Up one
size from what I was using at NWC. I haven't missed a hookset with
them yet (I think I just jinxed myself...oh well). The trick is
getting them rigged with an ever so sligh bow in the belly so they
keel properly. It also keeps the hook's business end on the top side
of the bait so the weed removal after every cast is minimal. A couple
spritzes of an oily attractant seems to help it work through the muck
a bit cleaner also. But that's just me, YMMV.

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
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Old September 28th, 2004, 10:16 PM
Thundercat
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 17:00:04 -0400, "go-bassn"
wrote:

My jury's still out on these two, I appreciate your detailed opinions. I'm
still looking for the optimum hooks to use with these baits:

1) 4-4.5" Flippin' Tube

2) Horny Toad


I have been very happy with 4/0 texposers on the Horny Toad. Up one
size from what I was using at NWC. I haven't missed a hookset with
them yet (I think I just jinxed myself...oh well). The trick is
getting them rigged with an ever so sligh bow in the belly so they
keel properly. It also keeps the hook's business end on the top side
of the bait so the weed removal after every cast is minimal. A couple
spritzes of an oily attractant seems to help it work through the muck
a bit cleaner also. But that's just me, YMMV.

Harry J aka Thundercat
Brooklyn Bill's Tackle Shop Fishing Team
http://www.geocities.com/brooklynbill2003/products.html
Share the knowledge, compete on execution.
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Old September 28th, 2004, 10:54 PM
John Kerr
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Please only reply if you've got a REAL WINNER.
Warren
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Was thinking about relying, but this kinda intimidated me grin.
JK

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Old September 28th, 2004, 11:15 PM
BassMr
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John,if you love bass fishing,(and I know you do) you are already a REAL
WINNER.
"John Kerr" wrote in message
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Please only reply if you've got a REAL WINNER.
Warren
--
Was thinking about relying, but this kinda intimidated me grin.
JK


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Old September 28th, 2004, 11:31 PM
alwaysfishking
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I was using the Matzuo 5/0 J Bend hook on the toads with good success. I did
lose a few that I thought I hooked good but came unbuttoned. Seems the way I
was rigging them the frog would turn over every now and then on the
retrieve, which would explain the lost fish. I added a rubber band keeping
the hook tight to the toad. The J bend hook runs high above the frog with
the rubber band attached, excellent on the hookset now due to the thick
bodied frog, you need all the exposed hook you can get IMO, You can also add
a trailer hook to them. I would suggest the strike king red trailer hooks, I
have caught quite a few fish on these frogs since using them and with the
fall bite starting to kick in up here the fish have been coming out to hit
the frogs I saw one fish come from about 10-15 feet to smash one yesterday.


I would suggest using the texposer 3/0 or 4/0 on the tubes. I don't fish a
lot of tubes but never really had any problems with the texposer when I do.
Just my two cents





"go-bassn" wrote in message
...
My jury's still out on these two, I appreciate your detailed opinions.

I'm
still looking for the optimum hooks to use with these baits:

1) 4-4.5" Flippin' Tube

2) Horny Toad

Please only reply if you've got a REAL WINNER, and please tell me what

makes
them so good. I need something that holds up well, and won't turn to rust
just because it's exposed to humid air for a few minutes.

Last week on the Hudson I lost a 4#+ because the barb on my hook had

turned
to dust.

I wasn't happy.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions







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Old September 28th, 2004, 11:44 PM
Scott Seidman
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"go-bassn" wrote in
:

My jury's still out on these two, I appreciate your detailed opinions.
I'm still looking for the optimum hooks to use with these baits:

1) 4-4.5" Flippin' Tube

2) Horny Toad

Please only reply if you've got a REAL WINNER, and please tell me what
makes them so good. I need something that holds up well, and won't
turn to rust just because it's exposed to humid air for a few minutes.

Last week on the Hudson I lost a 4#+ because the barb on my hook had
turned to dust.

I wasn't happy.

Warren
--
http://www.warrenwolk.com/
http://www.tri-statebassmasters.com
2004 NJ B.A.S.S. Federation State Champions






http://www.daiichihooks.com/products/index.html

I use daiichi for most of my flies. The only rust problem I've ever had
was when a fly box got wet.

If you can't tolerate any rust, ever, go to stainless hooks.

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Old September 29th, 2004, 12:15 AM
John Kerr
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Warren, thanks...I was just funnin with ya....I use what ever my kid
puts in the "care packages", so I really couldn't compare other products
fairly...I no longer fish competively, except with my self, so I just
have fun with what I have at hand . But I am paying attention to the
replys..I might be tempted to "buy" something.
JK

(BassMr)
John,if you love bass fishing,(and I know you do) you are already a REAL
WINNER.
======
Please only reply if you've got a REAL WINNER. Warren
--
Was thinking about relying, but this kinda intimidated me grin. JK

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Old September 29th, 2004, 12:15 AM
John Kerr
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Warren, thanks...I was just funnin with ya....I use what ever my kid
puts in the "care packages", so I really couldn't compare other products
fairly...I no longer fish competively, except with my self, so I just
have fun with what I have at hand . But I am paying attention to the
replys..I might be tempted to "buy" something.
JK

(BassMr)
John,if you love bass fishing,(and I know you do) you are already a REAL
WINNER.
======
Please only reply if you've got a REAL WINNER. Warren
--
Was thinking about relying, but this kinda intimidated me grin. JK

 




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