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Old September 16th, 2008, 12:18 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 16, 1:17*pm, wrote:
Dear Mrs. LaCourse,

you donīt know me, and you may find this a little strange, but I
thought you might like to know what your husband gets up to on the
internet in an international forum. Your children and grandchildren
can access this at any time, and I hardly feel you would be pleased at
such an occurrence.

Perhaps it would be prudent to discuss this with your husband, whose
dribbling dick, and various other details of your family and sex life,
are now common knowledge on this forum?

Unfortunately, I lost my wife to cancer several years ago, and I know
how extremely painful and difficult these things can be. Nevertheless,
I feel you should know of his antics. Perhaps it is a side effect of
the disease, the medication, or heīs just senile?

I really do hope this is of some help to you.

Yours faithfully *&c


PS. Please find enclosed printed copies of various posts made by your
husband to this forum.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 06:56 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 16, 7:35*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:53:02 -0700 (PDT),

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Send it to your wife? *No, not at all, how could you possibly think
such a thing? *I would make fifty copies, and send them to your
neighbours, Lakewood camps, and anywhere else I can think of or find.
You are always so generous with personal information, not difficult at
all.


Since I closed my website, and ceased posting to any other forums, as
a direct result of you and your mateīs antics, I have nothing better
to do than sit here and figure out ways to stop you denigrating and
insulting myself and others on this forum. Would be cheap as well,
just a few dollars for stamps.


Think about it for a while before you post any more stupid nasty ****,
I wouldnīt want to rush you.


Michael, you can send it wherever you want to. *It won't hurt me one
bit. *Whomever receives such drivel and twaddle will realize it comes
from a mad man. *Good luck.

Davey Boy


I suppose that is possible, or are you simply lying again? Maybe Iīll
try it anyway, just for "****s and grins". Whatever, I have plenty of
time to waste.

You on the other hand donīt.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 10:59 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 16, 11:24*pm, Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 10:56:05 -0700 (PDT),

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You on the other hand donīt.


You are probably right, Michael. *But when I die I will be a helluva
lot happier than when you do. *Your life right now must be absolutely
miserable as seen in your posts. *See a doc, Mike.

Dave


You are fantasising again LaCourse, if you were a happy and balanced
person you would not be getting into **** like this on here. It seems
you are desperate for some sort of recognition, and you try to obtain
it even when your attempts to do so actually repel people.Even after
being told about it time and time again, you still keep doing it. You
also constantly project your ideas and fantasies on to others, quite
oblivious to the fact that they just donīt function like that.

Apart from various bull**** and propaganda, mainly simply invented by
Fortenberry and yourself among others, you donīt know anything at all
about me. You should avoid the mistake of actually believing the
largely stupid and insulting **** you write.

I have seen a fair number of people die LaCourse, some went
peacefully, some most decidedly did not, and some never even saw it
coming. None of them were happy about it, as far as they were compos
mentis at all, or aware of it at the time. We all die LaCourse, thatīs
just how it is,there is nothing to be done about it, but we can affect
how we live. Perhaps not as much as we would like, it is human nature
to want more of various things, or better things, but one rarely gets
exactly what one wants, some never do, and some only get fleeting
glimpses, or even just dream of it.

With all your advantages and possibilities, which incidentally I donīt
doubt for a moment and never have, not least your beautiful and
apparently loving wife and family, your money, and all the other
things you have, what drives you to come on here and abuse strangers?

To gloat over their misfortunes, and use your advantages to belittle
them and make them feel even worse? Do you consider that sensible? Iīm
afraid I donīt.

I had some of the things you have, and I appreciated them very
greatly. Mostly I used them to help others, not to impress or browbeat
them. I still have some of those things, and unfortunately I have lost
others, but I am nevertheless content with my lot. I had a very good
life up to now LaCourse, with some problems and tragedies, much like
many others, but I donīt begrudge anybody anything, and I have always
been willing to help others in any way I could. That is one of the
things which makes me happy.

Perhaps you should try helping others for a while, or at least trying
to cheer them up or make them a little happier in some way, instead
of just trying to impress them. You might well be pleasantly
surprised.

Not just in a volunteer soup kitchen either, but everywhere. It might
not make you die any happier, but it will certainly make you live
happier.
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Old September 16th, 2008, 11:35 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:59:31 -0700 (PDT),
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With all your advantages and possibilities, which incidentally I donīt
doubt for a moment and never have, not least your beautiful and
apparently loving wife and family, your money, and all the other
things you have, what drives you to come on here and abuse strangers?


I gives as I gets on roff, Michael. If I disagree with something you
say, you jump all over me calling me stupid, dumbo, etc. Like I have
said many times before, you can not accept criticism, and sadly you
probably never will.

To gloat over their misfortunes, and use your advantages to belittle
them and make them feel even worse? Do you consider that sensible? Iīm
afraid I donīt.


I gloat over no one's misfortunes. You don't know me or even my
on-line persona. I may insult you and a few others, but I never gloat
over it. I've seen to much misfortunes and misery in my life, past
and present, to ever cloat. But I have a way of ****ing off people -
some who need to be ****ed off. d;o0 Love me or leave me, I guess.


I had some of the things you have, and I appreciated them very
greatly. Mostly I used them to help others, not to impress or browbeat
them. I still have some of those things, and unfortunately I have lost
others, but I am nevertheless content with my lot. I had a very good
life up to now LaCourse, with some problems and tragedies, much like
many others, but I donīt begrudge anybody anything, and I have always
been willing to help others in any way I could. That is one of the
things which makes me happy.


I am positive all the above is true, Michael, but you speak not of
your present miserable condition. We all have problems and tragedies
and having money doesn't make one immune to them. If I saw you in
person and your arm was broken with the bone piercing the skin, I
could diagnose you as having a broken arm. The same is true of your
mental condition, Mike. You behave like a man with too many problems
to handle, to much hate inside trying to get out, and nowhere to turn
to for *relief* except roff. You need help, Michael.


Perhaps you should try helping others for a while, or at least trying
to cheer them up or make them a little happier in some way, instead
of just trying to impress them. You might well be pleasantly
surprised.

Not just in a volunteer soup kitchen either, but everywhere. It might
not make you die any happier, but it will certainly make you live
happier.


Michael, you know absolutely nothing of me. One of the greatest joys
in my life is helping others. I know, it sounds like I'm patting
myself on the back, but I don't mean to. While in the Navy, I saw
enough misery in this world to last two lifetimes, only to see even
more when traveling to South America with Joanne. I am a very
fortunate man (a certain friend would call me the luckiest sob alive),
no doubt about that, and I know where I came from and where I am
going. I will never stop helping, of that you can be assured.

Dave



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Old September 17th, 2008, 12:28 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 17, 12:35*am, Dave LaCourse wrote:

Dave


To what "miserable condition" are you referring? What makes you think
I am miserable? I am not in the least miserable, nor do I have any
reason to be. There are some things I would like and donīt (canīt)
have, but compared to very many, probably in fact the vast majority,
I am a very fortunate person.

I am not going to make the mistake of giving any personal information
on here, but you really must stop projecting whatever it is you are
projecting, or believing whatever bull**** you actually think you know
about me, because the simple truth is you know virtually nothing, and
you never will, because I donīt choose to tell you, and you have no
other way of obtaining reliable information.

When you and others make statements like "see a doc", etc etc, then I
merely find it somewhat amusing, and also an indication of the
apparently widespread American idea that a "doc" of some sort could
stop one feeling miserable, or cure all oneīs ills, assuming I had any
to begin with, which I donīt. Apart from a couple of slipped discs,
for which I have to keep up back training, I am as healthy as a horse,
and both physically and mentally in top condition. I donīt have to
work, I have enough money to do whatever I want when I want, and I am
still a relatively young man compared to many here for instance.

While the bull**** and propaganda disseminated by you and others
annoyed and upset me very considerably, it was only of any consequence
as long as it actually had any effect on whatever I happened to be
doing. This no longer affects me at all, as I merely removed what it
was affecting, namely my website and my contributions to international
fly-fishing boards. While this was extremely annoying, it has not done
me any real harm, and there are a lot more people a great deal more
upset about my ceasing it than I am. It is not a massive personal
tragedy for me.

Contrary to what you apparently believe, having doubtless convinced
yourself of it by virtue of constant repetition, I donīt place any
particular worth on being well known, it actually causes quite a few
problems in and of itself, probably more than it is worth,assuming one
considers it worthwhile at all. Nor have I ever even attempted to make
any money from fishing or related matters. Would be pointless anyway,
I donīt need the money. My only motivation for doing these things was
my intrinsic interest, which is unaffected and undiminished, and my
desire to help others.

Apparently you have trouble accepting it, but I really donīt care much
what you or indeed anybody else on here has to say either to or about
me. It is merely a way of passing the time, and I think it is a good
idea to make perfectly clear to anybody I can reach what a lying sack
of **** Fortenberry is. Beyond that, you are actually of very little
interest to me at all. The only people I really take much notice of
are those I respect, and you are simply no longer one of those people.

Admittedly, I have no idea what motivates some of you to behave as you
do, but I donīt much care about that any more either, you are as you
are, for whatever reasons, and I donīt even want to know what they are
any more. At one time this was a fairly civilised place with a fairly
large number of people whose opinions and ideas I respected, and there
was a goodly amount of interesting fishing talk. That is simply no
longer the case. So? There is nothing I can do about it, it doesnīt
stop me passing a few minutes here between doing other things, and I
actually find it quite amusing in the meantime. I can simply say
whatever I like to or about whoever I like.

What you people read into all these things is your affair. Mind you,
when you deliberately try to **** me off, then I **** you off. Itīs
not complicated.

Anyway, enough. I have a few things to do, and it was not my intent to
write half a novel..................................



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Old September 17th, 2008, 12:49 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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wrote in news:f7cab44d-a86c-4d79-9b5b-
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When you and others make statements like "see a doc", etc etc, then I
merely find it somewhat amusing, and also an indication of the
apparently widespread American idea that a "doc" of some sort could
stop one feeling miserable, or cure all oneïs ills, assuming I had any
to begin with, which I donït. Apart from a couple of slipped discs,
for which I have to keep up back training, I am as healthy as a horse,
and both physically and mentally in top condition.


Except for a history of a debilitating case of Lyme, of course, which is
known to cause all sorts of pretty nasty psych reactions.

Dead serious, Mike, see yourself a doc, tell him that some friends tell
you that they've noticed a change in your behavior, and mention your Lyme
history.

God's honest truth, if I were next to you, I'd be bothering you till you
did this.


Am J Psychiatry. 1994 Nov;151(11):1571-83.
Lyme disease: a neuropsychiatric illness.
Fallon BA, Nields JA.


OBJECTIVE: Lyme disease is a multisystemic illness that can affect
the central nervous system (CNS), causing neurologic and psychiatric
symptoms. The goal of this article is to familiarize psychiatrists with
this spirochetal illness. METHOD: Relevant books, articles, and abstracts
from academic conferences were perused, and additional articles were
located through computerized searches and reference sections from
published articles. RESULTS: Up to 40% of patients with Lyme disease
develop neurologic involvement of either the peripheral or central
nervous system. Dissemination to the CNS can occur within the first few
weeks after skin infection. Like syphilis, Lyme disease may have a
latency period of months to years before symptoms of late infection
emerge. Early signs include meningitis, encephalitis, cranial neuritis,
and radiculoneuropathies. Later, encephalomyelitis and encephalopathy may
occur. A broad range of psychiatric reactions have been associated with
Lyme disease including paranoia, dementia, schizophrenia, bipolar
disorder, panic attacks, major depression, anorexia nervosa, and
obsessive-compulsive disorder. Depressive states among patients with late
Lyme disease are fairly common, ranging across studies from 26% to 66%.
The microbiology of Borrelia burgdorferi sheds light on why Lyme disease
can be relapsing and remitting and why it can be refractory to normal
immune surveillance and standard antibiotic regimens. CONCLUSIONS:
Psychiatrists who work in endemic areas need to include Lyme disease in
the differential diagnosis of any atypical psychiatric disorder. Further
research is needed to identify better laboratory tests and to determine
the appropriate manner (intravenous or oral) and length (weeks or months)
of treatment among patients with neuropsychiatric involvement.


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Old September 17th, 2008, 02:01 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Sep 17, 1:49*am, Scott Seidman wrote:

Except for a history of a debilitating case of Lyme, of course, which is
known to cause all sorts of pretty nasty psych reactions.

Dead serious, Mike, *see yourself a doc, tell him that some friends tell
you that they've noticed a change in your behavior, and mention your Lyme
history.

God's honest truth, if I were next to you, I'd be bothering you till you
did this.


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There is no God, "honest truth" is a tautology which often heralds
lies or insincerities, you arenīt my friends, you are not next to me,
and you never will be, so you fortunately canīt actually bother me
much at all, "annoy" or even "irritate", would be more accurate.

The last several tests I had showed me clear of borreliosis. Not only
am I not suffering from any psychiatric disorders, I am not a fool
either ( although they don't test directly for that, you will have to
take my word for it). Quite apart from which, when necessary I receive
the finest medical care money can buy, even were I reliant on the
"socialised medicine", which Mr.LaCourse so decries, it would be good,
but I have been privately insured on the best possible plan for many
years now, so while your concern ( sincere or otherwise) is noted, it
is superfluous in the extreme. Obviously I have also done a great deal
of research on the matter myself, and would doubtless be aware of any
physical symptoms.

Incidentally, I donīt live in a hovel, I am not overweight, I donīt
wear saris, blow off monkeys or paint their arses orange, get ****ed
on by elephants, and I donīt frequent railway stations either, not
even for their ostensible purpose. Mainly I use my bicycle for getting
around, it keeps me fit as well.

Some other things you might like to note, or not. If you kick
yourself very hard in the arse at least four times a day, then you
have probably managed to at least partially chastise the stupid
******* who is responsible for most of your problems. This will also
save you a lot of time and trouble looking for other victims, not to
mention money for psychiatrists bills trying to find out why the world
is against you.

Before you analyse and condemn or otherwise judge other peopleīs
behavior and motives, it is likely to prove far more useful to try
analysing your own. This may well save you even more problems.

Of course if you are stupid, you are just stupid and canīt really be
helped.

Over the years, firstly regularly, and then intermittently, that I
have viewed this forum, it has changed very considerably, as has the
behaviour of its occupants. To whit, it has worsened considerably.
Does that mean you have all gone nuts? Perhaps you should go and see
a "doc". Just tell him some loony on the internet told you to go and
see him as he had noticed behavioural changes. If you really are nuts
you may well be committed, if he judges you sane, then at least you
have proof for your friends on the internet ( get it in writing), who
after insulting, defaming, denigrating. libelling and generally
****ing you off, told you you were crazy as well.

Finally, no matter what happens, and regardless of what you do, sooner
or later you are going to die of something or other, you can not
change that, but you can change what happens between now and then.

Thus endeth the lesson for today. Pax vobiscum - et cum spiritu tuo

Next time we may even get to
fishing.......................................

 




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