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  #21  
Old May 1st, 2004, 05:38 PM
riverman
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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You could try a one-handed spey cast.

Why do I get a feeling that a spey cast is in the same chapter of the

book
as a smoke shifter? :-)


Basic literacy might help to dispel that disquietude.

Wolfgang


...or perhaps having A LIFE, and not enough time to look it up JUST YET,
little troll. Notice how Greg offered something constructive?



Ooh, ooh, someone get the clue bat!

--riverman


  #22  
Old May 1st, 2004, 05:42 PM
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Scott Seidman" wrote in message

The rationale is good enough but it only applies in a limited set of
circumstances. As long as you've got sufficient room to either side of
where you want to drop your bug the roll cast pickup can be forced to the
side, thus eliminating the droplet problem or lining the fish. It can

also
be done with a short line, with the same result. In either case, it's

easy
to pick up the line, back cast for acceleration, and shoot line on the
forward cast for distance. I used the roll cast pickup frequently and
deliberately. I find it very useful in some tight quarters, but even more
so for repetitive casting while moving slowly upstream and for working the
shoreline of a blue gill pond from a belly boat.

That said, on small water with lots of cover, it just might be
unavoidable. I still do it, I just try not to.


To each his own, but I think you're trying to cheat yourself out of a very
useful tool.


I use the roll cast a lot when I have a lot of line out (like when the fish
are rising way out there, and I don't want to fish all the way in before I
cast over them again). When I drop my tip for the pickup, it creates a big
slack right in front of me. Heeding the words of some guy named Wulff (SGNW)
"the casting doesn't start until the entire line is actually moving", I
strip out another few yards, roll cast to get the slack out and lay the line
up in front of me, then I pick it up and cast the length.

--riverman


  #23  
Old May 1st, 2004, 05:48 PM
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"slenon" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter:
Practice on a lawn that is moving from left to right.


I had just such a lawn last week at a friend's house. We believe it was
caused by the bourbon.


Quite so. Scotch, gin, and even vodka will also cause a lawn to move from
left to right. However, for lawn practice moving right to left, Mogen
David, and in extreme cases, Sabra, will be required.



Or from East to West? ;-/

--riverman
(been there, done that, got searched at the airport)


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Old May 2nd, 2004, 04:29 AM
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"pw" wrote in message
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I don't think I've ever seen a casting book or video that tries to
teach beginners on the water!


Everything I've read says the same thing. But Thursday night, water was
necessary for health reasons, so I broke the rules.


Try one of Lefty Kreh's books or videos. Trust me!



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Old May 2nd, 2004, 04:32 AM
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Doug Kanter:
Practice on a lawn that is moving from left to right.


I had just such a lawn last week at a friend's house. We believe it was
caused by the bourbon.


Quite so. Scotch, gin, and even vodka will also cause a lawn to move from
left to right. However, for lawn practice moving right to left, Mogen
David, and in extreme cases, Sabra, will be required.


I've got some Sabra in the cupboard. Left over from some dessert with
oranges that I made from Gourmet mag for guests which was pretty
louzy. That was about 2 years ago. Wonder if this stuff keeps.

Don't do the girly things. It's Gin, Vodka, Cognac or Bourbon for me!



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Old May 2nd, 2004, 03:34 PM
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pw:
I've got some Sabra in the cupboard. Left over from some dessert with
oranges that I made from Gourmet mag for guests which was pretty
louzy. That was about 2 years ago. Wonder if this stuff keeps.


It will keep but not improve with age. Still, it is better than something I
came across last week. Someone in Israel, untold years ago manufactured a
brandy from green walnuts. When we cleaned out my mother-in-law's home
after her death, we found an unopened bottle of this. It was undoubtedly
the most bitter brandy I have ever tasted.

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Stev Lenon 91B20 '68-'69
Drowning flies to Dark Star

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  #27  
Old May 2nd, 2004, 03:35 PM
Doug Kanter
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"pw" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter:
Practice on a lawn that is moving from left to right.


I had just such a lawn last week at a friend's house. We believe it was
caused by the bourbon.


Quite so. Scotch, gin, and even vodka will also cause a lawn to move

from
left to right. However, for lawn practice moving right to left, Mogen
David, and in extreme cases, Sabra, will be required.


I've got some Sabra in the cupboard. Left over from some dessert with
oranges that I made from Gourmet mag for guests which was pretty
louzy. That was about 2 years ago. Wonder if this stuff keeps.

Don't do the girly things. It's Gin, Vodka, Cognac or Bourbon for me!


Yeah. Sabra's tasty, but it's definitely in the category of things that bars
run specials on in places where the customers don't know better, like
college towns. "Ladies' Night! Four hangovers for a dollar!"


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Old May 2nd, 2004, 07:54 PM
pw
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pw:
I've got some Sabra in the cupboard. Left over from some dessert with
oranges that I made from Gourmet mag for guests which was pretty
louzy. That was about 2 years ago. Wonder if this stuff keeps.


It will keep but not improve with age. Still, it is better than something I
came across last week. Someone in Israel, untold years ago manufactured a
brandy from green walnuts. When we cleaned out my mother-in-law's home
after her death, we found an unopened bottle of this. It was undoubtedly
the most bitter brandy I have ever tasted.


Yuk!


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  #29  
Old May 3rd, 2004, 03:29 AM
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If you want to change direction when casting, simply lift the line, aim the
rod where you want the line to go and cast it. The line will go where the
rod tip goes. There is no need for "direction changing" with false casts.
Direction changes of ninety degrees and more are no problem.

Roll casting is also unnecessary with a floating line to "get the line up",
and may be disadvantageous, as it disturbs too much water. It can be useful
sometimes, but one should not do it habitually.

TL
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  #30  
Old May 3rd, 2004, 12:42 PM
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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You could try a one-handed spey cast.

Why do I get a feeling that a spey cast is in the same chapter of the

book
as a smoke shifter? :-)


Basic literacy might help to dispel that disquietude.

Wolfgang


...or perhaps having A LIFE, and not enough time to look it up JUST YET,
little troll. Notice how Greg offered something constructive?


Hm......yeah, what with raising Wunderkinder and shooting the 99%+ of
humanity that doesn't deserve to live and keeping close tabs (from a safe
distance, of course) on the Great Satan Wal-Mart, I can see how you might be
pressed for time. Still, Google took just 0.19 seconds to come up with
12,8000 hits on "spey casting" when I tried it a moment ago. Now, lacking
opposable thumbs and all, I'm going to guess it took you longer than that to
type either your initial pez-headed observation or the equally vapid and
characteristically exculpatory whine immediately above.

The good news is that there is reason to hope you will be providing us with
cheap entertainment for some time to come.

Wolfgang
wondering whether a single human lifetime is enough for slow learners to
learn that they are slow learners.


 




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