THE PHILLIES WIN! THE PHILLIES WIN!

On Nov 7, 5:07*pm, wrote:

Well once again you are serving up the Kool Aid. But Richard, you
aren't supposed to quaff it yourself.

1. Mr. Sarah got the "no show" status AFTER Mrs Sarah got the
oversight appointment. Not 20 years when he began his "career."

2. Boy oh boy maybe you should check out current news BEFORE you try
to serve up the Kool Aid. Then you might have stowed your special
industry insider insights. Here, I'll help you. . .
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5460864.shtml

Dave
Tis noble not to gloat, right?

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:21:32 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

On Nov 7, 5:07*pm, wrote:

Well once again you are serving up the Kool Aid. But Richard, you
aren't supposed to quaff it yourself.

1. Mr. Sarah got the "no show" status AFTER Mrs Sarah got the
oversight appointment. Not 20 years when he began his "career."

Not as I understand it - he went back as non-management (such as his previous
position was "management"), after unpaid leave to avoid COI, because his family
needed the income, to a company he had been with for nearly 20 years.

2. Boy oh boy maybe you should check out current news BEFORE you try
to serve up the Kool Aid. Then you might have stowed your special
industry insider insights. Here, I'll help you. . .
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5460864.shtml

Dave
Tis noble not to gloat, right?

Um - gloat away, if you ever have anything to gloat about...the Texas City
incident is what I was talking about the tower restart and blowdown
explosion. And if you knew anything of which you spoke, the fact that OSHA
fined a company, in and of itself, is nearly meaningless. And if you wish to
contend that BP doesn't care about workers' safety, then you are forced to admit
that at least one union, the steelworker's union, doesn't, either. I don't know
what union, if any, reps the contractor's workers that were killed.

HTH,
R

On Nov 7, 5:21*pm, DaveS wrote:

Here is the headline from the October 30, 2009, CBS reported story

"BP Issued $87M Fine for OSHA Violations"
"U.S. Says Oil Giant Failed to Fix Hazards, Committed New Violations
at Texas Refinery Where 2005 Explosion Killed 15"

My guess is your special insight informants don't speak to you from
the land of the dead, right? Maybe you need a reading list?

Dave

On Nov 7, 5:40*pm, wrote:

Duh, ever heard of "right to work" laws? And the contractor staff are
non-union because . . . ? You can't have it both ways Richard. Look,
if you believe that workers do not care about their own safety, and
that all you are doing is reflecting what everybody at all levels of
the industry "tell" you, you just keep it up. Keep talking.

I just love it when you say corporate bribery is "foresight" and play
like Mississippi casino money never made it into Delay's (et al)
sweaty paws, and now your take on BP's murderous approach to worker
safety.

Get real, and get clear. Worker safety isn't Right or Left; You make
my case that what America needs is more centrist, more moderate
politics, not ideological claptrap. If BP is going to do business in
the USA it needs to respect our laws and our people.

Dave

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:09:32 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

Yes, your dress does make your ass look big - trying removing your head...

HTH,
R

On Nov 7, 6:40*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:09:32 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

Yes, your dress does make your ass look big - trying removing your head....

HTH,
R

Did you hear that?
Yep.
Was that the sound of a win for the American people?
Yep.
You mean Richard will wake tomorrow to learn that the House Democrats
passed Health Care Reform?
Yep
You think he will cry?
No. Feudalists just want the very best for the American people they
own.

Dave

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 02:13:58 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

On Nov 7, 6:40*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 18:09:32 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

Yes, your dress does make your ass look big - trying removing your head...

HTH,
R

Did you hear that?
Yep.
Was that the sound of a win for the American people?
Yep.
You mean Richard will wake tomorrow to learn that the House Democrats
passed Health Care Reform?

GOOD LORD! The "American people"?! You mean Pelosi wants to pay for Botox and
abortions for Chileans? Just what the US needs - the courts jammed up with
Hondurans extradited from Tegucigalpa who can't pay their "no health insurance"
fines. Well, if thing does wind up covering elective procedures, the Brazilians
are gonna be a problem...hell, 1.2 trillion won't cover 6 months of wax, um,
down there...

Yep
You think he will cry?
No. Feudalists just want the very best for the American people they
own.

Oh, absolutely - for example, I'd have voted to subsidize a newnew muumuu for
youyou...

Dave

HTH,
R

On Nov 8, 6:31*am, wrote:
SNIP
Oh, absolutely - for example, I'd have voted to subsidize a newnew muumuu for
youyou...

HTH,
R

Facts Richard, Facts.
Tory feudalists have fought and sabotage EVERY attempt to pass
reasonable immigration policies in the US for the last 40 years.
Feudalist businesses have benefited massively from the use of legal
and illegal low wage labor and the use of immigrants in widespread and
organized anti worker and anti union assaults on the American middle
class dream. Or maybe you want to pretend that the businesses and
companies with which you are associated with do not employ many
immigrants, legal and otherwise?

The hypocrisy of your last statement is recognizable to anyone who has
seen the massive state and federal subsidization of immigrant health
care, daycare, unemployment compensation etc etc, as immigrant
exploiting industries have shifted these costs on to the public tit.

On your Muumuu obsession. You sound like you've got a whole closet
full of last year's Muumuus. Maybe you can take them to your next Log
Cabin Club outing, or send a few to Rove. You two look the same size.

Dave
40 percent of private sector employees get NO sick leave.
American Union members don't have to put up with that crap.

On Sun, 8 Nov 2009 10:43:07 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:

On Nov 8, 6:31*am, wrote:
SNIP
Oh, absolutely - for example, I'd have voted to subsidize a newnew muumuu for
youyou...

HTH,
R

Facts Richard, Facts.

Yeah, as soon as learn some, let me know. Until then, maybe you ought to stick
to teaching folks how "turnip" translates into various languages - shoot, Sarge,
you're a regular, er, babblepish...

HTH,
R

On Nov 7, 7:40*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 17:21:32 -0800 (PST), DaveS wrote:
On Nov 7, 5:07*pm, wrote:

Well once again you are serving up the Kool Aid. But Richard, you
aren't supposed to quaff it yourself.

1. Mr. Sarah got the "no show" status AFTER Mrs Sarah got the
oversight appointment. Not 20 years when he began his "career."

Not as I understand it - he went back as non-management (such as his previous
position was "management"), after unpaid leave to avoid COI, because his family
needed the income, to a company he had been with for nearly 20 years.



2. Boy oh boy maybe you should check out current news BEFORE you try
to serve up the Kool Aid. Then you might have stowed your special
industry insider insights. Here, I'll help you. . .
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...n5460864.shtml

Dave
Tis noble not to gloat, right?

Um - gloat away, if you ever have anything to gloat about...the Texas City
incident is what I was talking about the tower restart and blowdown
explosion. *And if you knew anything of which you spoke, the fact that OSHA
fined a company, in and of itself, is nearly meaningless. *And if you wish to
contend that BP doesn't care about workers' safety, then you are forced to admit
that at least one union, the steelworker's union, doesn't, either. *I don't know
what union, if any, reps the contractor's workers that were killed.

Have you ever observed, or been involved with, a situation in which a
company attempted to fire an employee for failing to use provided
safety equipment, resulting in an OSHA fine to the company, and then
the union, ADMITTING that the employee did as stated, threatened to
strike if he was fired?
I did, and sat in on the mediation board. [ we fired his ass and
almost got the union to reimburse the fine ]

It happens.

cheers

oz, ex safety and IH consultant