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Dave's Flexament
I have found that most normal fly tying cement can be thined with acetone -
except Dave Flexament. I was told that Dave's Flexament is vinyl based. I've tried using acetone and it just screws it up. I've also tried mineral spirits and lacquer thinner but they don't work either. Does anyone know what could be used to thin it down a little? Mine gets pretty thick after opening the bottle repeatedly. I see that there is a Dave Flexament thinner but I can't find it in the stores. |
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Bryan wrote:
I have found that most normal fly tying cement can be thined with acetone - except Dave Flexament. I was told that Dave's Flexament is vinyl based. I've tried using acetone and it just screws it up. I've also tried mineral spirits and lacquer thinner but they don't work either. Does anyone know what could be used to thin it down a little? Mine gets pretty thick after opening the bottle repeatedly. I see that there is a Dave Flexament thinner but I can't find it in the stores. Try toluene. May be a bit hard to find. TrueValue hardware stores have it around here (SF bay area). Paint stores might also be a place to look. Mike |
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In article . net,
mmcgr wrote: Bryan wrote: I have found that most normal fly tying cement can be thined with acetone - except Dave Flexament. I was told that Dave's Flexament is vinyl based. I've tried using acetone and it just screws it up. I've also tried mineral spirits and lacquer thinner but they don't work either. Does anyone know what could be used to thin it down a little? Mine gets pretty thick after opening the bottle repeatedly. I see that there is a Dave Flexament thinner but I can't find it in the stores. Try toluene. May be a bit hard to find. TrueValue hardware stores have it around here (SF bay area). Paint stores might also be a place to look. Mike If you find Toluene I seem to recall it's pretty toxic stuff so be careful (unless I'm wrong then have a ball) Allen |
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Dave's Flexament
I have found that most normal fly tying cement can be thined with acetone -
except Dave Flexament..... Does anyone know what could be used to thin it down a little? I've heasrd that toluene, aka toluol, will do it. I make my own "Flexament" by mixing some "Goop" and toluene to get the right consistency. I understand the fumes can cause birth defects, though. So if you're of baby-making age, you might want to avoid it. vince |
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From: vincent p. norris
I make my own "Flexament" by mixing some "Goop" and toluene to get the right consistency. I understand the fumes can cause birth defects, though. So if you're of baby-making age, you might want to avoid it. Toluene is very toxic. IIRC it is a major component in the manufacture of phosgene (sp?) gas. George Adams "All good fishermen stay young until they die, for fishing is the only dream of youth that doth not grow stale with age." ---- J.W Muller |
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Dave's Flexament
"vincent p. norris" wrote in message ... I have found that most normal fly tying cement can be thined with acetone - except Dave Flexament..... Does anyone know what could be used to thin it down a little? I've heasrd that toluene, aka toluol, will do it. I make my own "Flexament" by mixing some "Goop" and toluene to get the right consistency. I understand the fumes can cause birth defects, though. As can a decent Chardonnay, from what I hear. So if you're of baby-making age, you might want to avoid it. As single man, I've got to say there's something seriously twisted about the logic in that statement. Wolfgang |
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Toxicity of toluene:
Calm down guys. Let's put things in perspective here. Toluene is a suspected carcinogen. Benzene is a known carcinogen. Both are present at high levels in gasoline. Treat the toluene (or toluol) with the respect and care that you would gasoline. Perhaps toluene was used as a solvent in the manufacturing of phosgene but the toxicity of phosgene and toluene have no relationship to each other. I started to list my credentials here but you wouldn't know them to be true, so don't take my word for it. You can find the the MSDS online. In the future, if you have a question regarding the toxicity of any material, just perform a search for it's MSDS. I have included the URLs for the MSDS of several compounds for your review. For most people, just reading the MSDS for a compound isn't very informative. That is why I included several different ones so that you can compare between them. Toluene http://www.bandj.com/BJMSDS/MSDS_PDF/TOLUENE.pdf Gasoline http://www.hess.com/about/msds/Gaso_Reg_0323_clr.pdf Ethyl alcohol (the alcohol that is consumed) http://www.aaper.com/aapermsds/6Ethyl%20190.pdf Phosgene http://www.vngas.com/pdf/g67.pdf |
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"Bob Eury" wrote in message ... .....I started to list my credentials here but you wouldn't know them to be true, so don't take my word for it...... We know the credentials of most of the correspondents on these pages to be fabrications.......and not particularly adept frauds at that. And yet, this knowledge does not in the least diminish our deep and abiding respect for them. Go ahead and list. Wolfgang |
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Mike wrote:Try toluene. May be a bit hard to find. TrueValue hardware stores
have it around here (SF bay area). Paint stores might also be a place to look. Mike The stuff is so nasty lots of cities no longer allow it to be sold. Big Dale |
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