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Hi everyone I have flyfishing for the past 15 years 8 as a kid 3 slow
years and the last 4 I have tested my marriage to the fullest. Now I
am ready to buy my first vise I got all the info I needed on what kind
ect. I just don't know weather to get a peddistle base or C clamp. I
know it's probably a matter of what works for you, but I couldn't find
that much feedback on who l


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On Fri, 16 May 2008 19:56:55 -0400, smittin
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Hi everyone I have flyfishing for the past 15 years 8 as a kid 3 slow
years and the last 4 I have tested my marriage to the fullest. Now I
am ready to buy my first vise I got all the info I needed on what kind
ect. I just don't know weather to get a peddistle base or C clamp. I
know it's probably a matter of what works for you, but I couldn't find
that much feedback on who l

I have both, but I've always found it much more comfortable using my pedestal
vise, as it doesn't have to be positioned at the edge of the tying bench, so I
can easily rest my elbows on the bench surface when tying - something that
would be awkward if even possible with a c-clamp model. The pedestal model
also has no restriction on bench thickness as a c-clamp model may.

I tie for both fresh and salt, and have never felt the pedestal vise was
unstable, even when lashing 2/0 budgies with kevlar thread. But if I ever
found it to be a problem, it would be no big deal to clamp the pedestal base
to the bench with an inexpensive c-clamp...

/daytripper

I prefer the clamp, for the same reasons mentioned by irish1 and Akskim,
but when travelling (espically camping) the pedestal can be very handy.

Years ago, I found a chunk of cold rolled steel, in the scrap, under
the cut-off saw of a machine shop. With a bit of drilling, tapping and,
a thumb screw, it became a pedestal base suitable for tables too thick
for the clamp on my old Thompson vice.


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Like the other's I use both a clamp and pedestal for my Traveler vise.
I use the pedestal mostly when away from home, and clamp is much
better for streamers and sal****er flies. As was pointed out if you
really get into tying, you will spend alot of time at the vise, so be
fore buying anything, decide on where you are going to be tying, height
of table and chair, so you can get the better set up. Most better shops
will let you try a vise before buying. Ramsey Outdoor, Shannon's, and
Tightlines are your best bet.

Good Luck.


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Hey,
I think you are going to find out that much of tying is personal
preference and quirks. My tiny peice of advice is to get good tools and
a good vice. Tying is expensive and cheap. The start up expense is
fairly large, but the stuff lasts a lifetime. If you try to go too
cheap, you'll wind up with alot of stuff you don't use much if at all.
I have a Peak vice with pedestal. I believe a clamp is available for
it. I like the pedestal cause my "bench" is an old typwriter table and
the edge doesn't let you clamp very well. There you go a quirk. I tie
mostly very small flys and thus haven't had any problem with the thing
moving around. I like my rotary feature, but could get along without
it. You also should consider the look of the vice and how much respect
you will or will not get when you go to club ties or classes. Fly tying
is addictive and very relaxing. I especially like trying new materials
and variations on patterns. Have fun, Frogge.


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frogge;114302 Wrote:
You also should consider the look of the vice and how much respect you
will or will not get when you go to club ties or classes. Fly tying is
addictive and very relaxing. ... Have fun, Frogge.


Frogge, I like the way you think.

Please review my post concerning the thread monomaster..

Heck, I'll save you the time...

-*After all I am very concerned about how I look... *-

-*...just might not make the image that I wish to evoke.

After all, it isn't how well you tie, its how you look while doing it.

As always, I look marvelous.

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On Fri, 16 May 2008 19:56:55 -0400, smittin
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Hi everyone I have flyfishing for the past 15 years 8 as a kid 3 slow
years and the last 4 I have tested my marriage to the fullest. Now I
am ready to buy my first vise I got all the info I needed on what kind
ect. I just don't know weather to get a peddistle base or C clamp. I
know it's probably a matter of what works for you, but I couldn't find
that much feedback on who l

Before you invest a lot of money in an expensive vise, buy a good
inexpensive one. All too often I have seen folks invest in good
materials, tools, etc., only to drop out of tying. Give it a try with
the simplest tools you can get.

If the bug bites you, then you can invest in a better vise and better
tools. I still have my old tools and vise and I have given away many
other old tools and vises to newbies. I now tie with a Renzetti when
I travel (both a base and a clamp - I prefer the base), and a
permanently installed Nor Vise at home.

The neat thing about a base vise is that you can tie with it
*anywhere*, including the floor. I have been in cabins where there
was no place to clamp a vise, so the base model came in quite handy.

Dave

thanks guy's I did decide to go with the more expensive stuff just
waiting for my birthday now so my wonderfull wife can think it was a
$100 vise she bought me(lol my if my poor wife ever found out how much
all my fly gear is worth she would be in shock). I installed a table
in my basment with the c-clamp in mind so thats what I'm going with. I
still am on the fence about which vise, but I think it's going to be the
renzetti presentation 2000 i'ts like $270.00. Now that DRO is closed I
don't have shop close by me and more than likely will not get to test
before purchase.


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As an avid fly tyer I find there are pro's and cons to each style. I tye
in a lot of shows and also I use to travel on business, I could not
always find a place to clamp my vise onto. Also until I finally had a
fly tying room I was afraid to use the clamp thus ruining the furniture
and creating an issue with my wife and an extra expense for me. Now I
tye on a Renzetti master with a salt water base and love it. The bad
side to base vises is that you really have to look and feel and try the
base model. Some of the models I tried I felt the base moved to easy
when I needed to apply tension specially on Bass Bugs. I had a renzetti
travler that I used to use for camping and shows. What I did was to buy
the sal****er base that made this issue a non issue. Either way, base
or clamp is fine. It all boils down to do you want your vise mobile
meaning to go on trips and such or do you tye most of the time at home
and hardly take it out with you. Lastly on nice days, I do tye on
streamside so a small portable table and a base vise suites me
perfectly. Just in case you are curious, my renzetti presentation 4000
was replaced by the renzetti master. The presentation 4000 replaced the
traveler. I have only seen the new vise you are talking about buying and
have not tried one. Renzetti makes a quality product and I expect this
vise to live up to their standards. Hope this helps.


Andy B


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Have to remember, he is looking for his first vise.

Different vises for different styles of flies.

He seems set on one make and model. Should be general enough to tie
just about every type of fly out there, and pleasing to look at too
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