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On Jun 9, 5:58*am, wrote:
On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 07:02:22 -0500, Ken Fortenberry wrote: wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: You described the President's interview on the Today show as "Urkel goes gangsta". You're so casually and endemically racist you can't even recognize it when you utter it on Usenet. Sad. Well, Webster, I thought, ever so briefly, about "Lyle Alzado goes 'Swan Lake'" but it didn't quite sound the same...again, explain how what I did say was "racist"...if you can... Like I said, sad. Yeah, you SAID it, but apparently, you cannot EXPLAIN it... HTH, R Many of your comments in question contain a sneering mockery of African-Americans and the use of lightly coded deprecatory comparisons, minimization and dehumanization of their experiences, history and accomplishments. For you it is cleaver humor, and to be fair it is pretty much how most of us Whites talked about Blacks until a decade or two ago. Now your kind of racist comments are pretty much restricted to informal exchanges between male friends with a little booze for lubrication, but even there this kind of talk is mostly unwelcome in educated White circles, among military people, young people etc.. That kind of humor is also considered archaic and boorish today in many White social circles. Why you do it? Who the hell knows. My own theory is it is an "edgy" thing with you. For example, this "explain it to me" thing of yours, etc.. Or maybe it's the set you travel with. I don't think it is a particularly Southern thing, because I am old enough to know that racism has been/is pretty heavy in the North (Less so in the West). So, who knows why you do it. One thing is clear, you are certainly smart enough to stop. Dave |
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On Jun 8, 3:05*pm, DaveS wrote:
On Jun 8, 2:30*pm, MajorOz wrote: On Jun 8, 2:17*pm, Ken Fortenberry wrote: wrote: snip ...I mean, Urkel goes gangsta is not what _anyone_ needs right now.... And I suppose on your planet there is not a hint of racism stated or implied in that idiotic comment. Am I right ? Un-****in'-believable. -- Ken Fortenberry Could somebody please explain to me what the problem is with rdean's I LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY THERE AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME reporting on the spill. Could the bitching be agenda-based............nah........not for gentlemen fly fishers. oz, a long way from the gulf Fred Read ALL his "reporting" on the spill since the beginning of the spill and some of the fact checking on his early assertions and then maybe you can decide on where the agenda's are. *Examples: RD led off defending BP safety record when even the Republican Baker report after the BP Texas City refinery blew up with numerous fatalities, excoriated BP for their culture of unsafe operations. That was followed by his citation of research on dispersant that conveniently left out that tests had already shown that the dispersant favored by BP was 60% as effective and 2-3 times as toxic as alternatives. People get tired sorting the bull from the real. There is stuff RD does know allot about. And there is other stuff that just doesn't check out. Facts are terrible things for folks who seem to believe everything is fungible and spinnable. Dave Thank you for an answer to the question without insulting the person who asks it. cheers oz, wondering why some of these hateful people bother to get out of bed |
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MajorOz wrote:
DaveS wrote: MajorOz wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: rdean wrote: snip ...I mean, Urkel goes gangsta is not what _anyone_ needs right now... And I suppose on your planet there is not a hint of racism stated or implied in that idiotic comment. Am I right ? Un-****in'-believable. Could somebody please explain to me what the problem is with rdean's I LIVE, WORK, AND PLAY THERE AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO ME reporting on the spill. Could the bitching be agenda-based............nah........not for gentlemen fly fishers. Fred Read ALL his "reporting" on the spill since the beginning of the spill and some of the fact checking on his early assertions and then maybe you can decide on where the agenda's are. Examples: RD led off defending BP safety record when even the Republican Baker report after the BP Texas City refinery blew up with numerous fatalities, excoriated BP for their culture of unsafe operations. That was followed by his citation of research on dispersant that conveniently left out that tests had already shown that the dispersant favored by BP was 60% as effective and 2-3 times as toxic as alternatives. People get tired sorting the bull from the real. There is stuff RD does know allot about. And there is other stuff that just doesn't check out. Facts are terrible things for folks who seem to believe everything is fungible and spinnable. Thank you for an answer to the question without insulting the person who asks it. cheers oz, wondering why some of these hateful people bother to get out of bed I intended no insult to you in my reply to your question. If you took my reply as a personal insult I'll consider it an unintended bonus. You're welcome. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:20:12 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote: wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: wrote: Ken Fortenberry wrote: You described the President's interview on the Today show as "Urkel goes gangsta". You're so casually and endemically racist you can't even recognize it when you utter it on Usenet. Sad. Well, Webster, I thought, ever so briefly, about "Lyle Alzado goes 'Swan Lake'" but it didn't quite sound the same...again, explain how what I did say was "racist"...if you can... Like I said, sad. Yeah, you SAID it, but apparently, you cannot EXPLAIN it... I cannot explain it *TO YOU*. And that's related to something else I've already said regarding casual and endemic. I didn't ask that you explain it *TO ME* (or anyone in particular) - I asked that you explain it. But OK, explain *YOUR REASONING* for finding the phrase "Urkel goes gangsta" racist. And note that I did not describe the interview as anything. What I did do, in general terms, is describe his "As soon as someone tells me whose ass needs kicking, I'm going to kick it..." as "Urkel goes gangsta." You, Steve, and whoever else might find it disparaging, uncomplimentary, unfair, inaccurate, etc. (and others may find it appropriate, accurate, fair, etc.), but it isn't "racist," "sexist," "Anglophobic," etc. HTH, R |
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On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:25:32 -0600, rw wrote:
On 6/10/10 7:47 PM, wrote: I didn't ask that you explain it *TO ME* (or anyone in particular) - I asked that you explain it. But OK, explain *YOUR REASONING* for finding the phrase "Urkel goes gangsta" racist. You used two African American stereotypes ("Urkel" and "gangsta") ....and _I'm_ a racist...? Yeah, right, R |
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rdean wrote:
rw wrote: rdean wrote: I didn't ask that you explain it *TO ME* (or anyone in particular) - I asked that you explain it. But OK, explain *YOUR REASONING* for finding the phrase "Urkel goes gangsta" racist. You used two African American stereotypes ("Urkel" and "gangsta") ...and _I'm_ a racist...? Oh yeah, you're a racist. You may think your shtick is clever and funny but it's just rewarmed, age-old racism couched in modern jargon. Sad. -- Ken Fortenberry |
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On 6/10/10 8:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2010 20:25:32 -0600, wrote: On 6/10/10 7:47 PM, wrote: I didn't ask that you explain it *TO ME* (or anyone in particular) - I asked that you explain it. But OK, explain *YOUR REASONING* for finding the phrase "Urkel goes gangsta" racist. You used two African American stereotypes ("Urkel" and "gangsta") ...and _I'm_ a racist...? Yeah, right, R I see that that ignored my point about you stealing the (racist) joke from a Rush Limbaugh substitute. At least now we can be certain about where you get your media talking points from. -- Cut "to the chase" for my email address. |
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