And you say Bush is dumb.....

.......man ...what I could do with a video camera at a clave!

john


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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http://youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws&feature=related

On Mon, 12 May 2008 21:32:44 -0600, salmobytes
wrote:

But for minority scholarship students, like both Michelle and Barack,
you had to be on top of your game. Smiling and looking the other way was
only offered to children of the Skull and Bones guys.

The same can be said of Kerry. How come HE is ok but Bush isn't.

As far as Obama's wife - I have no doubt she is intelligent.
However, her remark about never being proud of America will and should
come back to haunt her. And that was no slip of the tongue.

Dave

wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 02:42:16 GMT, "Tom Littleton"
wrote:


"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
news
But it's fun, John.



There, I'll disagree with you, old pirate. What is going on in the nation
and within our role in the world is too important to trivialize as some
would do. Focusing on little video snippets and trying to portray an
intelligent person as dumb isn't "fun", it's trivializing an opportunity
for
a legitimate national debate on some issues. Not that the actual
candidates
won't manage to drop the gravitas levels a few notches before the process
is
over, but still, I suspect those who would have the race reduced to guilt
by
association, cherry-picked video clips, or misrepresented sound bits don't
really have the nation's best interests at heart.......

Um, how about Obama's defense of the "100 years in Iraq" commercials?
Even rational Dems were calling it a gross inaccurate characterization
of both the full quote and the intent, which is exactly what it was.
Thus far, I'd have to give the "high road" nod to McCain (personally -
the same cannot be said of several local GOP campaign ads).

Lookit you making references to "the high road."

Wolfgang
the boy is STILL hilarious when he's "serious."

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On Mon, 12 May 2008 21:47:39 -0400, JR wrote:

Dave LaCourse wrote:
On Mon, 12 May 2008 20:02:41 -0400, JR wrote:

I watched that clip, and.... yes, Bush is dumb.

Same grade point average as Kerry, but I bet both of them know how
many states there are. Duuuh!

So, well *below* Barack's GPA.

You mean to honestly tell me that you don't recognize a simple
slip of the tongue when you hear one.....?

.... "something-7, uh, and one more to go, not counting Alaska
and Hawaii....." You mean to tell me it's not obvious he meant
47 and made a slip.... kinda the way you would if you'd visited
47 states in 15 months, many of them multiple times....???

I can't speak for Dave, but if a campaign that he chose to mount causes
him to do all this "slipping," I'd offer that the pressures of the
Presidency is gonna do a real number on him, "slip"-wise...IAC, 47 isn't
right as to primaries/caucuses anyway, although his "state" math would
have made sense at "47."

C'mon. There are a lot of honest differences to discuss and even
argue and disagree about, but this picky little **** is a waste
of everyone's time....

How come it is that when anyone else makes an obvious slip, misspeaks,
or simply drops a clanger, it's important, but when Obama does it, even
mentioning it is "picky little ****" or "politics as usual" or one of
its variants? I gotta tell ya, this is one of the things that's gonna
come back to haunt him - his and his supporters' utter hypocrisy with
stuff like this.

Lookit you, making references to "hypocrisy."

Wolfgang
the boy just SLAYS me!

"Dave LaCourse" wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 May 2008 21:32:44 -0600, salmobytes
wrote:

But for minority scholarship students, like both Michelle and Barack,
you had to be on top of your game. Smiling and looking the other way was
only offered to children of the Skull and Bones guys.

The same can be said of Kerry. How come HE is ok but Bush isn't.

KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON!
KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON!
KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON! KLINTON!

As far as Obama's wife - I have no doubt she is intelligent.
However, her remark about never being proud of America will and should
come back to haunt her.

Perceptive and thoughtful statements always do.

And that was no slip of the tongue.

Precisely.

Wolfgang

wrote:

Hee-hee-hee...you're obviously a Harvard type...

No, Harvard does it too. That's how they get those huge endowments.
If you're a third generation Yalie from an old-rich blue blood
Bentley-driving family, your kids not only get into school, they
don't get bounced either.

I went one year to the Princeton Country Day School, which was
a pretentious wannabe clone of an English public school (back then,
anyway). I remember one 8th grade kid who came to school everyday
in a 3 piece suit, carrying a brief case, delivered by chauffeured
Bentley. And the driver wore one of those funny uniforms too.

I remember that particular kid was an introverted hard worker. They had
a huge stone wall, castle-like mansion out on Stoney Brook, with
majestic iron gates and a long, hedge-lined white gravel driveway.
The also had a mile or more of pristine trout habitat at the upper
reaches of Stoney Brook. I poached out there even then. Which made it
all a bit deliciously ironic.

But there were plenty of ****-off ultra-rich smart-asses there too. It
didn't matter. They were rich and they were going to stay that way no
matter what. And they knew it.

Michelle Obama grew up on on the south side of Chicago.
Emerging from that environment, as she did, was no small achievement.

On Tue, 13 May 2008 07:02:25 -0600, salmobytes
wrote:

wrote:

Hee-hee-hee...you're obviously a Harvard type...

No, Harvard does it too. That's how they get those huge endowments.
If you're a third generation Yalie from an old-rich blue blood
Bentley-driving family, your kids not only get into school, they
don't get bounced either.

And while I'm not the expert on Harvard's entrance policies and
procedures that you are on Yale's, I have some personal knowledge of
both. I'd offer that in the 70s and 80s, Obama, being a minority
legacy, had a large headstart to a Harvard admission. While Obama
likes, even encourages (or at the minimum, doesn't discourage) the whole
humble background bit, ala Bill Clinton (and Hillary, depending...), it
is, overall, as much bull**** as Clinton's bull****. And as "they don't
get bounced," you have no idea of about what you speak. IAC, by all
accounts, Bush was an average student, no more, no less, and whatever
"help" you believe his family might have been able to provide was never
needed.

I went one year to the Princeton Country Day School, which was
a pretentious wannabe clone of an English public school (back then,
anyway). I remember one 8th grade kid who came to school everyday
in a 3 piece suit, carrying a brief case, delivered by chauffeured
Bentley. And the driver wore one of those funny uniforms too.

Sounds like a sit-com...

I remember that particular kid was an introverted hard worker. They had
a huge stone wall, castle-like mansion out on Stoney Brook, with
majestic iron gates and a long, hedge-lined white gravel driveway.

Ah, well, then, that explains the relevance...

The also had a mile or more of pristine trout habitat at the upper
reaches of Stoney Brook. I poached out there even then.

So, let's recap - you were offered a chance to attend a good school and
make friends with a rich hard-working kid who dressed nicely, and
instead, you chose to steal from it and rationalize your failure
there...

Which made it all a bit deliciously ironic.

Ah, so you're still a thief...

But there were plenty of ****-off ultra-rich smart-asses there too. It
didn't matter. They were rich and they were going to stay that way no
matter what. And they knew it.

And it appears the reasons behind your attitude are exposed...

Michelle Obama grew up on on the south side of Chicago.
Emerging from that environment, as she did, was no small achievement.

More bull****. Given the number of folks to whom such is attributed,
it's a fairly common type of thing. Heck, didn't John Kerry's campaign
even try to pull off some form of the "worked his way up...outta the
Hamptons" crapola.

IAC, the bottom line is that while schools like Harvard and Yale (and
really, all schools) generally have an admissions policy, even if
unofficial, that favors legacies, they don't pass out degrees for kicks,
and those who are graduated weren't just handed one because they are a
legacy. And if you think they do, that doesn't say much for the school,
and therefore, much about either Obama's degree.

HTH,
R

wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 May 2008 07:02:25 -0600, salmobytes
wrote:

wrote:

Hee-hee-hee...you're obviously a Harvard type...

No, Harvard does it too. That's how they get those huge endowments.
If you're a third generation Yalie from an old-rich blue blood
Bentley-driving family, your kids not only get into school, they
don't get bounced either.

And while I'm not the expert on Harvard's entrance policies and
procedures that you are on Yale's, I have some personal knowledge of
both. I'd offer that in the 70s and 80s, Obama, being a minority
legacy, had a large headstart to a Harvard admission. While Obama
likes, even encourages (or at the minimum, doesn't discourage) the whole
humble background bit, ala Bill Clinton (and Hillary, depending...), it
is, overall, as much bull**** as Clinton's bull****. And as "they don't
get bounced," you have no idea of about what you speak. IAC, by all
accounts, Bush was an average student, no more, no less, and whatever
"help" you believe his family might have been able to provide was never
needed.

I went one year to the Princeton Country Day School, which was
a pretentious wannabe clone of an English public school (back then,
anyway). I remember one 8th grade kid who came to school everyday
in a 3 piece suit, carrying a brief case, delivered by chauffeured
Bentley. And the driver wore one of those funny uniforms too.

Sounds like a sit-com...

I remember that particular kid was an introverted hard worker. They had
a huge stone wall, castle-like mansion out on Stoney Brook, with
majestic iron gates and a long, hedge-lined white gravel driveway.

Ah, well, then, that explains the relevance...

The also had a mile or more of pristine trout habitat at the upper
reaches of Stoney Brook. I poached out there even then.

So, let's recap - you were offered a chance to attend a good school and
make friends with a rich hard-working kid who dressed nicely, and
instead, you chose to steal from it and rationalize your failure
there...

Which made it all a bit deliciously ironic.

Ah, so you're still a thief...

But there were plenty of ****-off ultra-rich smart-asses there too. It
didn't matter. They were rich and they were going to stay that way no
matter what. And they knew it.

And it appears the reasons behind your attitude are exposed...

Michelle Obama grew up on on the south side of Chicago.
Emerging from that environment, as she did, was no small achievement.

More bull****. Given the number of folks to whom such is attributed,
it's a fairly common type of thing. Heck, didn't John Kerry's campaign
even try to pull off some form of the "worked his way up...outta the
Hamptons" crapola.

IAC, the bottom line is that while schools like Harvard and Yale (and
really, all schools) generally have an admissions policy, even if
unofficial, that favors legacies, they don't pass out degrees for kicks,
and those who are graduated weren't just handed one because they are a
legacy. And if you think they do, that doesn't say much for the school,
and therefore, much about either Obama's degree.





Wolfgang

rambled:

....yes, I was a teenage (fishing/poaching) thief.
I used to sneak in to Clark's Pond on the north side of Princeton
too, with black friends from "down town." They had guard
dogs there, so it was a bit dicey. But boy they sure did
have some big bass in that pond. Stealing (fish) from the rich
is our patriotic duty.

"salmobytes" wrote in message
...
rambled:

Stealing (fish) from the rich is our patriotic duty.

As succinct and clear a demonstration of the fact that the noun "duty" need
not be preceded by the adjective "onerous" as any reasonable person could
ask for.

Wolfgang
who tries hard not to let any opportunity for joy slip by unremarked.