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  #21  
Old July 9th, 2011, 09:51 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Jul 9, 8:09*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
...
Ken Fortenberry *- roff 87-present including duty as early warning
bull**** detector


Geeze, must be awfully annoying always setting off your own alarm.


Few things can set off all five bull**** detectors at once but this
gem is bona fide five-alarm bull****.

"3. The Yellowstone is in full flood and flowing very swiftly, thus
much of the oil will be in the lower Missouri & the Mississippi and
widely dispersed very soon."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Big Mouth Billy Bob

The fact of the matter is that the flood has pushed significant
amounts of the oil into fragile wetlands and marshes and it has
*not* washed downstream.

Dumbass.

--
Ken Fortenberry


And this fact is based on? If you study the pictures of the
Yellowstone in that area you will quickly see that:
1. Due to the high level of flooding, MOST streamside wetlands are
underwater with strong current flowing through them. Undoubtedly there
are a few permanent wetlands away from the normal channel that are
affected. However, that is not at odds with my statement about
" ...MUCH of the oil...".
2 A significant amount of oil has been (though, based on the
pictures, is only a small fraction of the 1000 barrels) pushed up onto
dry land pastures and crop land where it certainly can be a problem,
but is also much easier to clean up there than if it remained in the
river. My original comments never addressed this issue, and regardless
are not at odds with it.

You are either a very sloppy reader or ,more likely, choose to ignore
all qualifiers in any statement, and your response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent.
  #22  
Old July 10th, 2011, 02:01 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Default Yellowstone Oil Spill

Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Few things can set off all five bull**** detectors at once but this
gem is bona fide five-alarm bull****.

"3. The Yellowstone is in full flood and flowing very swiftly, thus
much of the oil will be in the lower Missouri& the Mississippi and
widely dispersed very soon."
-- Big Mouth Billy Bob

The fact of the matter is that the flood has pushed significant
amounts of the oil into fragile wetlands and marshes and it has
*not* washed downstream.

Dumbass.


And this fact is based on?


Reports in the _New York Times_, which I will accept as fact until
proven otherwise.

...
You are either a very sloppy reader or ,more likely, choose to ignore
all qualifiers in any statement, and your response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent.


BWAHAHAHAHA !

*THAT'S* your excuse for posting dumbass bull**** in response to a
request for details beyond the superficial ? I'm a sloppy reader of
weasel words ? snicker

--
Ken Fortenberry
  #23  
Old July 10th, 2011, 06:06 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bob[_2_]
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On Jul 9, 6:01*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Few things can set off all five bull**** detectors at once but this
gem is bona fide five-alarm bull****.


"3. The Yellowstone is in full flood and flowing very swiftly, thus
much of the oil will be in the lower Missouri& *the Mississippi and
widely dispersed very soon."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Big Mouth Billy Bob


The fact of the matter is that the flood has pushed significant
amounts of the oil into fragile wetlands and marshes and it has
*not* washed downstream.


Dumbass.


And this fact is based on?


Reports in the _New York Times_, which I will accept as fact until
proven otherwise.

...
You are either a very sloppy reader or ,more likely,


BWAHAHAHAHA !

*THAT'S* your excuse for posting dumbass bull**** in response to a
request for details beyond the superficial ? I'm a sloppy reader of
weasel words ? snicker

--
Ken Fortenberry


So when someone uses words like MUCH or MOST because that is
precisely what they meant, you consider them weasel words,. and, in
your mind they really meant ALL. Thus I am correct in my assessment
that you " choose to ignore
all qualifiers in any statement, and your response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent."
How can live live in a world in which everything is either one way or
the other and there are no instances of part this and part that?
You may consider my response superficial, but there are no posts in
this thread besides mine gave any information whatsoever on this event
that wasn't in the national media.
  #24  
Old July 10th, 2011, 06:22 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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Default Yellowstone Oil Spill

On Jul 9, 6:01*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Few things can set off all five bull**** detectors at once but this
gem is bona fide five-alarm bull****.


"3. The Yellowstone is in full flood and flowing very swiftly, thus
much of the oil will be in the lower Missouri& *the Mississippi and
widely dispersed very soon."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Big Mouth Billy Bob


The fact of the matter is that the flood has pushed significant
amounts of the oil into fragile wetlands and marshes and it has
*not* washed downstream.


Dumbass.


And this fact is based on?


Reports in the _New York Times_, which I will accept as fact until
proven otherwise.

...
You are either a very sloppy reader or ,more likely, choose to ignore
all qualifiers in any statement, and your response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent.


BWAHAHAHAHA !

*THAT'S* your excuse for posting dumbass bull**** in response to a
request for details beyond the superficial ? I'm a sloppy reader of
weasel words ? snicker

--
Ken Fortenberry


So when someone uses words like MUCH or MOST because that is
precisely what they meant, you consider them weasel words, and, in
your mind they really meant ALL. Thus I am correct in my assessment
that you " choose to ignore all qualifiers in any statement, and your
response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent."
How can you live live in a world in which everything is either one
way or
the other and there are no instances of part this and part that?
You may consider my response to the original post superficial, but
there are no posts in
this thread besides mine that give any information whatsoever -that
wasn't in the national media - on this event
..
  #25  
Old July 10th, 2011, 12:26 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Default Yellowstone Oil Spill

Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Few things can set off all five bull**** detectors at once but this
gem is bona fide five-alarm bull****.


"3. The Yellowstone is in full flood and flowing very swiftly, thus
much of the oil will be in the lower Missouri& the Mississippi and
widely dispersed very soon."
-- Big Mouth Billy Bob


The fact of the matter is that the flood has pushed significant
amounts of the oil into fragile wetlands and marshes and it has
*not* washed downstream.


Dumbass.


And this fact is based on?


Reports in the _New York Times_, which I will accept as fact until
proven otherwise.

...
You are either a very sloppy reader or ,more likely, choose to ignore
all qualifiers in any statement, and your response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent.


BWAHAHAHAHA !

*THAT'S* your excuse for posting dumbass bull**** in response to a
request for details beyond the superficial ? I'm a sloppy reader of
weasel words ?snicker


So when someone uses words like MUCH or MOST because that is
precisely what they meant, you consider them weasel words, and, in
your mind they really meant ALL. Thus I am correct in my assessment
that you " choose to ignore all qualifiers in any statement, and your
response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent."
How can you live live in a world in which everything is either one
way or
the other and there are no instances of part this and part that?
You may consider my response to the original post superficial, but
there are no posts in
this thread besides mine that give any information whatsoever -that
wasn't in the national media - on this event


There are no posts in this thread, including yours, which give any
information whatsoever not given in the national media. Further,
your post contained misinformation, that is to say you don't know
what in the hell you're talking about.

--
Ken Fortenberry

  #26  
Old July 10th, 2011, 07:53 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Bob[_2_]
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Default Yellowstone Oil Spill

On Jul 10, 4:26*am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Few things can set off all five bull**** detectors at once but this
gem is bona fide five-alarm bull****.


"3. The Yellowstone is in full flood and flowing very swiftly, thus
much of the oil will be in the lower Missouri& * *the Mississippi and
widely dispersed very soon."
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Big Mouth Billy Bob


The fact of the matter is that the flood has pushed significant
amounts of the oil into fragile wetlands and marshes and it has
*not* washed downstream.


Dumbass.


And this fact is based on?


Reports in the _New York Times_, which I will accept as fact until
proven otherwise.


...
You are either a very sloppy reader or ,more likely, choose to ignore
all qualifiers in any statement, and your response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent.


BWAHAHAHAHA !


*THAT'S* your excuse for posting dumbass bull**** in response to a
request for details beyond the superficial ? I'm a sloppy reader of
weasel words ?snicker


So when someone uses words like MUCH *or MOST because that is
precisely what they meant, you consider them weasel words, and, in
your mind they really meant ALL. *Thus I am correct in my assessment
that you " choose to ignore *all qualifiers in any statement, and your
response is to your skewed
interpretation of what was said or to your skewed perception of the
posters intent."
How can you live *live in a world in which everything is either one
way or
the other and there are no instances of part this and part that?
You may consider my response to the original post superficial, but
there are no posts in
this thread besides mine that give any information whatsoever -that
wasn't in the national media - on this event


There are no posts in this thread, including yours, which give any
information whatsoever not given in the national media. Further,
your post contained misinformation, that is to say you don't know
what in the hell you're talking about.

--
Ken Fortenberry


A careful reader will find no misinformation in my post. There are at
least 3 bits of information in my post that are not to be found in the
national media, though I cannot expect anyone with your mindset (e.g.
there is no Fawn Lake) and limited intellect to find them.
Well time to bail this poke the troll exercise. It looks like the pig
is having too much fun. TaTa
  #27  
Old July 10th, 2011, 11:23 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Default Yellowstone Oil Spill

Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
There are no posts in this thread, including yours, which give any
information whatsoever not given in the national media. Further,
your post contained misinformation, that is to say you don't know
what in the hell you're talking about.


A careful reader will find no misinformation in my post. There are at
least 3 bits of information in my post that are not to be found in the
national media, though I cannot expect anyone with your mindset (e.g.
there is no Fawn Lake) and limited intellect to find them.
Well time to bail this poke the troll exercise. It looks like the pig
is having too much fun. TaTa


I wouldn't expect a Swiftboating ****-weasel to be swayed by facts.
If you could be swayed by facts you wouldn't be a Swiftboating
****-weasel in the first place. I will spell it out for you anyway.

Your misinformation post inferred that the flooding was a "good"
thing because it would disperse the oil spill and send it downstream.
In actual fact the flooding is a "bad" thing because it spread the
oil into fragile wetlands, marshes and low-lying areas which would
not have been affected were it not for the flooding.

Your post was dumbass bull**** and misinformation to boot. You have
no idea what the hell you're talking about and when confronted with
actual fact you revert to personal attack just like the nasty little
Swiftboating ****-weasel you really are.

The careful reader will find no misinformation in this post. LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry

  #28  
Old July 10th, 2011, 11:57 PM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
D. LaCourse
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On 2011-07-10 18:23:56 -0400, Ken Fortenberry
said:

Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
There are no posts in this thread, including yours, which give any
information whatsoever not given in the national media. Further,
your post contained misinformation, that is to say you don't know
what in the hell you're talking about.


A careful reader will find no misinformation in my post. There are at
least 3 bits of information in my post that are not to be found in the
national media, though I cannot expect anyone with your mindset (e.g.
there is no Fawn Lake) and limited intellect to find them.
Well time to bail this poke the troll exercise. It looks like the pig
is having too much fun. TaTa


I wouldn't expect a Swiftboating ****-weasel to be swayed by facts.
If you could be swayed by facts you wouldn't be a Swiftboating
****-weasel in the first place. I will spell it out for you anyway.

Your misinformation post inferred that the flooding was a "good"
thing because it would disperse the oil spill and send it downstream.
In actual fact the flooding is a "bad" thing because it spread the
oil into fragile wetlands, marshes and low-lying areas which would
not have been affected were it not for the flooding.

Your post was dumbass bull**** and misinformation to boot. You have
no idea what the hell you're talking about and when confronted with
actual fact you revert to personal attack just like the nasty little
Swiftboating ****-weasel you really are.

The careful reader will find no misinformation in this post. LOL !!


LOL. Old Kenny at it again, throwing rocks when he lives in a glass
house. If you check his first post in this thread, you will see that
it was Kenny Boy himself that "revert(ed) to personal attack just like
the nasty little ****-weasel" he is. I post it for you, Kenny:

Bob wrote:
Though a spill of 1000 barrels is not insignificant and is a tragedy
that will have measurable negative impacts, its not as bad as is
being portrayed by some.
Remember:
1. This occurred ~ 150 river miles downstream of the park.
2. The fishery is primarily carp, catfish,& other warm water species.
3. The Yellowstone is in full flood and flowing very swiftly, thus
much of the oil will be in the lower Missouri& the Mississippi and
widely dispersed very soon.
4 The amount of petroleum product that was released into the
Yellowstone-Missouri-Mississippi basin is probably less than enters
the system in one day following any significant rainstorm - runoff
from roads& parking lots, waste oil dumped on the ground or even into
storm drains, minor industrial spills, etc.


"So Bob guesses all is "probably" not as bad as all that and
"probably" all should "don't worry, be happy".

+++++We could have received just as much information from Big Mouth
Billy the Singing Bass.+++++

Thanks a lot Billy, er ... Bob"

Someone please copy and repost this so that Kenny can see ME. He
chicken-****ted out when Obama got elected and has me "blocked". d;o)
But I'm willin' to bet the old Pillsbury Dough Boy is readin' every
word. LOL.

Louie, Davey, Dave, The Pirate, Bottom Dweller, whatever.......

PS: Hey, Kenny..... did I tell you how good the fishing was at
Lakewood last week? Twenty fish *mornings*, including big brookies and
salmon. d;o)






  #29  
Old July 11th, 2011, 12:51 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
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On Jul 10, 3:23*pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
There are no posts in this thread, including yours, which give any
information whatsoever not given in the national media. Further,
your post contained misinformation, that is to say you don't know
what in the hell you're talking about.


A careful reader will find no misinformation in my post. There are at
least 3 bits of information in my post that are not to be found in the
national media, though I cannot expect anyone with your mindset (e.g.
there is no Fawn Lake) and limited intellect to find them.
Well time to bail this poke the troll exercise. It looks like the pig
is having too much fun. TaTa


I wouldn't expect a Swiftboating ****-weasel to be swayed by facts.
If you could be swayed by facts you wouldn't be a Swiftboating
****-weasel in the first place. I will spell it out for you anyway.

Your misinformation post inferred that the flooding was a "good"
thing because it would disperse the oil spill and send it downstream.
In actual fact the flooding is *a "bad" thing because it spread the
oil into fragile wetlands, marshes and low-lying areas which would
not have been affected were it not for the flooding.

Your post was dumbass bull**** and misinformation to boot. You have
no idea what the hell you're talking about and when confronted with
actual fact you revert to personal attack just like the nasty little
Swiftboating ****-weasel you really are.

The careful reader will find no misinformation in this post. * LOL !!

--
Ken Fortenberry


I know I said that I was bailing out of this thread, but you present
too tempting a target with this post.
Is English your first language, and do you have any understanding
whatsoever of the rules of logic?
My post inferred nothing. Indeed a post is incapable of inferring
anything. In fact it didn't even imply what you inferred from it with
your faulty logic. Here's a clue, the fact that most of what occurs is
one thing, in no way precludes something else occurring sometimes.
BTW you may want to check topo maps of the area and note the paucity
of low lying areas, marshes and wetlands in the first 50 miles
downstream of this event that would not be totally inundated and
subject to swift flows by the current flood level.
I doubt that I could ever find a more classic example of the pot
calling the kettle black than this "...when confronted with actual
fact you revert to personal attack just like the nasty little
Swiftboating ****-weasel you really are.
  #30  
Old July 11th, 2011, 12:59 AM posted to rec.outdoors.fishing.fly
Ken Fortenberry
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Default Yellowstone Oil Spill

Bob wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I wouldn't expect a Swiftboating ****-weasel to be swayed by facts.
If you could be swayed by facts you wouldn't be a Swiftboating
****-weasel in the first place. I will spell it out for you anyway.

Your misinformation post inferred that the flooding was a "good"
thing because it would disperse the oil spill and send it downstream.
In actual fact the flooding is a "bad" thing because it spread the
oil into fragile wetlands, marshes and low-lying areas which would
not have been affected were it not for the flooding.

Your post was dumbass bull**** and misinformation to boot. You have
no idea what the hell you're talking about and when confronted with
actual fact you revert to personal attack just like the nasty little
Swiftboating ****-weasel you really are.

The careful reader will find no misinformation in this post. LOL !!


I know I said that I was bailing out of this thread, ...


but my post hit home and hit home HARD so you've got to say
something, anything, no matter how ridiculous in a futile
and pathetic attempt to save face.

Save your breath, ****-weasel.

--
Ken Fortenberry
 




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