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SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?
Calif Bill wrote:
sounds like everything the Banjo minner did, as well as the Heliochopper thingy also. Here we use frogs in the delta, Especially a yellow headed / black body Tweety tourny frog. Your banjo look like a bird? Sorry meant boomer. I don't know if it is just some people can not understand english on this group or what.. This is a rig, not a lure, it is a rig that can let you fish a lure in one spot, with you controlling the action it has. I know some fishermen just can't get it into their mind that they could control a lure's action,, that the manufacturer's design of that lure already does it for them, that they (the fisherman) is not smart enough to have this control. Neither the Boomerang, or the Long SHot, does anything to your lures. They allow you, to do everything to the action of a lure. Those who are to dumb, or too lazy to have this control on their lures, don't need it. The Drop shot gives people a tiny bit of extra control, the Long SHot gives them total control. This rig has had thousands of hours of testing head to head against every other rig (something that no other fishing lure or rig has ever had) ( head to head testing is fishing the same spot (within 10 feet) at the same time ) This testing was also done against live bait. In most cases the testers using the new rig were not new to it, they had had a few days of fishing it before the test were started. Personally I could give a rat's hind end if some of you ever use it,, but you will come against it, and it will kick your butt, in the hands of someone who has practiced using it. Then you will actually look like the fool you are, for not at least giving it a try (for free), because of your own EGO, and pride. I have been shut out using it,, fished all day, not a fish, but the 6 to 20 other people fishing the same waters, and everything in their box were shut out as well. Then again I have caught many fish, and everyone , and I mean everyone else, was shut out, using everything else. Back When I made the first proto's ( the good material ) we sent some to a west coast pro. Here is his story of his first two times using it, with photo's Take a min. to read it (no he get's/got nothing for this endorsement) http://ezknot.com/field.htm -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks , Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long Shot rig and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?
Rodney wrote: "Then you will actually look like the fool you are, for not at
least giving it a try (for free), because of your own EGO, and pride." Bud, you're too close to the product to handle its presentation to the GP and the critics. You would do well just to ignore most of the critics and concentrate your attention addressing the people that have questions that you can answer in a positive manner. Drop the personal attacks and focus on the positive! -- Craig Baugher |
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SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?
MoJo would have been smart, or will likely catch on, that they needed/need a
"silencer" phrase in their contract for Rodney. Al Crumrine "Rodney" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: Snipped I don't know if it is just some people can not understand english on this group or what.. Snipped Personally I could give a rat's hind end if some of you ever use it,, but you will come against it, and it will kick your butt, in the hands of someone who has practiced using it. Then you will actually look like the fool you are, for not at least giving it a try (for free), because of your own EGO, and pride. Snipped Rodney Long, |
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SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?
I would not use it just because you have been such an asshole promoting it.
You have accused us of being jealous because you will be rich and famous and we are peons, not worthy of being in your presence. You have spammed, over and over the newsgroup. Pay attention to Mr. Ricard and the Secret Weapon Spinner bait. He talks about it, and gives advice on the usage. Not stroking his ego. Maybe you will become well to do, with your inventions. But I and most others will not be jealous. I live and worked in the Silicone valley. I have friends that can buy and sell you and Jimmy Houston and Bill Dance combined. I did not pick the right startups to get into that catagory, but am still friends with these people. They do not brag of their money. They are somewhat ordinary living and playing people. The house may be 9000 sq', and they drive a Ferrari as a 3rd car, but they do not brag about the money. I will not buy a Dodge, because of the service I got from them in 1978. Same goes for you. I am buying a new GM or Ford diesel truck. I would buy from Craig Baugher, except he is 2500 miles away. And I have friends in dealerships with in 5-20 miles. He has been courteous in his notice that he works for car dealership. Not you. Look at yourself and evaluate what you see. Bill "Rodney" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: sounds like everything the Banjo minner did, as well as the Heliochopper thingy also. Here we use frogs in the delta, Especially a yellow headed / black body Tweety tourny frog. Your banjo look like a bird? Sorry meant boomer. I don't know if it is just some people can not understand english on this group or what.. This is a rig, not a lure, it is a rig that can let you fish a lure in one spot, with you controlling the action it has. I know some fishermen just can't get it into their mind that they could control a lure's action,, that the manufacturer's design of that lure already does it for them, that they (the fisherman) is not smart enough to have this control. Neither the Boomerang, or the Long SHot, does anything to your lures. They allow you, to do everything to the action of a lure. Those who are to dumb, or too lazy to have this control on their lures, don't need it. The Drop shot gives people a tiny bit of extra control, the Long SHot gives them total control. This rig has had thousands of hours of testing head to head against every other rig (something that no other fishing lure or rig has ever had) ( head to head testing is fishing the same spot (within 10 feet) at the same time ) This testing was also done against live bait. In most cases the testers using the new rig were not new to it, they had had a few days of fishing it before the test were started. Personally I could give a rat's hind end if some of you ever use it,, but you will come against it, and it will kick your butt, in the hands of someone who has practiced using it. Then you will actually look like the fool you are, for not at least giving it a try (for free), because of your own EGO, and pride. I have been shut out using it,, fished all day, not a fish, but the 6 to 20 other people fishing the same waters, and everything in their box were shut out as well. Then again I have caught many fish, and everyone , and I mean everyone else, was shut out, using everything else. Back When I made the first proto's ( the good material ) we sent some to a west coast pro. Here is his story of his first two times using it, with photo's Take a min. to read it (no he get's/got nothing for this endorsement) http://ezknot.com/field.htm -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks , Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long Shot rig and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Drop Shot rubber band (formerly SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?)
I don't know anything about Rodney, as I am a relative newcomer, but his
long shot (I think that's what it's called) sounds pretty interesting to me. Maybe that's because one of the problems I have with the drop shot is keeping the weight on the bottom in one place. I tend to hop it even with relatively light twitching, which isn't all bad, and may be preferable in some cases, such as drifting. But, as I understand the principle of drop shotting, you don't really want to drift because theoretically, you use it when you have found a school of fish. So, it seems to me that something like Rodney has invented would eliminate some of my hops and give the lure more action. I'm looking forward to trying one. Keith |
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SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?
Aw! Go blow it out your ear!
Want some cheese to go with that whine? "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... I would not use it just because you have been such an asshole promoting it. You have accused us of being jealous because you will be rich and famous and we are peons, not worthy of being in your presence. You have spammed, over and over the newsgroup. Pay attention to Mr. Ricard and the Secret Weapon Spinner bait. He talks about it, and gives advice on the usage. Not stroking his ego. Maybe you will become well to do, with your inventions. But I and most others will not be jealous. I live and worked in the Silicone valley. I have friends that can buy and sell you and Jimmy Houston and Bill Dance combined. I did not pick the right startups to get into that catagory, but am still friends with these people. They do not brag of their money. They are somewhat ordinary living and playing people. The house may be 9000 sq', and they drive a Ferrari as a 3rd car, but they do not brag about the money. I will not buy a Dodge, because of the service I got from them in 1978. Same goes for you. I am buying a new GM or Ford diesel truck. I would buy from Craig Baugher, except he is 2500 miles away. And I have friends in dealerships with in 5-20 miles. He has been courteous in his notice that he works for car dealership. Not you. Look at yourself and evaluate what you see. Bill "Rodney" wrote in message ... Calif Bill wrote: sounds like everything the Banjo minner did, as well as the Heliochopper thingy also. Here we use frogs in the delta, Especially a yellow headed / black body Tweety tourny frog. Your banjo look like a bird? Sorry meant boomer. I don't know if it is just some people can not understand english on this group or what.. This is a rig, not a lure, it is a rig that can let you fish a lure in one spot, with you controlling the action it has. I know some fishermen just can't get it into their mind that they could control a lure's action,, that the manufacturer's design of that lure already does it for them, that they (the fisherman) is not smart enough to have this control. Neither the Boomerang, or the Long SHot, does anything to your lures. They allow you, to do everything to the action of a lure. Those who are to dumb, or too lazy to have this control on their lures, don't need it. The Drop shot gives people a tiny bit of extra control, the Long SHot gives them total control. This rig has had thousands of hours of testing head to head against every other rig (something that no other fishing lure or rig has ever had) ( head to head testing is fishing the same spot (within 10 feet) at the same time ) This testing was also done against live bait. In most cases the testers using the new rig were not new to it, they had had a few days of fishing it before the test were started. Personally I could give a rat's hind end if some of you ever use it,, but you will come against it, and it will kick your butt, in the hands of someone who has practiced using it. Then you will actually look like the fool you are, for not at least giving it a try (for free), because of your own EGO, and pride. I have been shut out using it,, fished all day, not a fish, but the 6 to 20 other people fishing the same waters, and everything in their box were shut out as well. Then again I have caught many fish, and everyone , and I mean everyone else, was shut out, using everything else. Back When I made the first proto's ( the good material ) we sent some to a west coast pro. Here is his story of his first two times using it, with photo's Take a min. to read it (no he get's/got nothing for this endorsement) http://ezknot.com/field.htm -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks , Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long Shot rig and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Drop Shot rubber band (formerly SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?)
Luv2bafield wrote:
So, it seems to me that something like Rodney has invented would eliminate some of my hops and give the lure more action. The attractiveness of drop shotting is that once the weight is in place, the lure is fished weightless. When you drop slack in the rod tip, the lure drifts downward in a natural manner, just like it would in shallower water if rigged unweighted. With the boomhickey, that natural drift is traded for the lure being pulled downward by a rubber band. It's not without it's place, but it doesn't have the same appeal as the natural downward drift the lure takes in "real" dropshotting. As a bed fishing technique to keep a lure in or around a nest, it could have some strong advantages. Atually, whenever you're fishing a more horizontal approach (EG using it with fairly lengthy casts) and want to keep the lure in one specific area but still want to move it quite a bit (theocratically having it move back and forth in front of a fish's face) the elastic idea has merit. That still doesn't address the issue of how last year, Rodney told us that Renosky was building the thing perfectly and how the version of it being produced then was absolutely the best thing since buttered toast, yet now that the two parties have gone their separate ways, that version has suddenly become junk and the ruination of his idea by Renosky, and this new iteration of the same idea is the real deal. If he invented it, and the old version was such a piece of crap, why didn't he see that or give the straight scoop then? Rodney may have unique ideas, and some of those ideas may have real value. But he thinks every one of them is the fishing equivalent to the solution to world peace, and his marketing approach drifts between hard-sell and abhorrent over-sell. RichZ© www.richz.com/fishing |
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Drop Shot rubber band (formerly SW spinnerbaits - What did RLDo Wrong?)
RichZ wrote:
The attractiveness of drop shotting is that once the weight is in place, the lure is fished weightless. When you drop slack in the rod tip, the lure drifts downward in a natural manner, just like it would in shallower water if rigged unweighted. With the boomhickey, that natural drift is traded for the lure being pulled downward by a rubber band. It's not without it's place, but it doesn't have the same appeal as the natural downward drift the lure takes in "real" dropshotting. You do not loose this ability when using the Long Shot, it is still there, if you want to use it. When ever you line goes slack the same thing happens with both the Long Shot and the drop shot As a bed fishing technique to keep a lure in or around a nest, it could have some strong advantages. Atually, whenever you're fishing a more horizontal approach (EG using it with fairly lengthy casts) and want to keep the lure in one specific area but still want to move it quite a bit (theocratically having it move back and forth in front of a fish's face) the elastic idea has merit. This is where it shines, the reason is not what you might expect though. Sometimes your keeping it in a spot where there is no fish, but within sight of fish, this keeping it active (not by radical movement, but just enough to keep the fish's attention, it allows the fish time to mosey over to it without loosing sight of it. In underwater filming and testing we noticed that nearly all "HUGE" bass move slowly over to the lure, they don't chase things over a body length or two. Most fishermen fish way too fast with any lure they are using, they cover a lot of water, and catch a large number of fish , but they never get into the lunkers, unless they drag that lure within close striking distance of that big bass. In Long Shot fishing you make just one cast to an area,, work it there for up to 4 min. if you don't catch a fish there is not one within sight distance of that spot That still doesn't address the issue of how last year, Rodney told us that Renosky was building the thing perfectly and how the version of it being produced then was absolutely the best thing since buttered toast, yet now that the two parties have gone their separate ways, that version has suddenly become junk and the ruination of his idea by Renosky, and this new iteration of the same idea is the real deal. If he invented it, and the old version was such a piece of crap, why didn't he see that or give the straight scoop then? The reason is simple, the original Boomerang started out GREAT, when I first told people here about it,, it slowly over the course of a year went to crap, by him changing the material, (it started out stretching in less than 1/3 OZ. and went to over 1 OZ, that's too stiff, and most people would not fish with a 1 Oz or more worm weight) I was locked into my contract at the time, I saw it was turning to crap, and that with him selling 3 in a 12 dollar kit was not going to go over with the majority of the fishing public, and raised total Hell with Renosky, of course then I had been totally flamed off this group. so I didn't keep them abreast of what was happening Rodney may have unique ideas, and some of those ideas may have real value. But he thinks every one of them is the fishing equivalent to the solution to world peace, and his marketing approach drifts between hard-sell and abhorrent over-sell. Your absolutely right. For one it is not my job at all to sell these things, and I do "Know" they are great, I know this because of testing,, not because of it was just my idea . Perhaps that is over selling, but I have the facts, the numbers , and the films, and the testimonials (all of these were done with the original Boomerang) Then people who have never tried it, or who didn't take five min. to study what can be done with it, to SLAM IT, to others, for no apparent reason, and it gets me mad, and I defend it with all the testing results, and with comments by professionals that have taken time to use it. I came here this time to offer "FREE" Long SHots, for people on this group to test, and then they can, with out assumptions, make a informed decision, if it will help them catch fish, then share that with the others on this group Bad or good,, the thing will defend or destroy it's self, not based on what I say, but what it does. This takes no money from anyone, they don't get gimmicked into buying anything, as I went on to say I will supply them with free ones the whole fishing season, if they want them. Now how could I be pushing "Snake Oil" to this group ? I am an active member on 5 other fishing news groups, not one of the other five have attacked me for making this offer, they instead sent me a private email, asking for my address to send their SASE to. It is true if I am attacked, I fight back, allowing untruth to be said against my products, without coming back, is agreeing with the poster of that untruth. Some on here think I should not fight back, that I am a A Hole for doing that, well you tell me another solution to keep the truth out there, besides my offer of letting each individual see for themselves without cost to them. If I was pushing gimmicks, I would never make such an offer !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Rodney Long, Inventor of the Boomerang Fishing Pro. , Stand Out Hooks , Stand Out Lures, Mojo's Rock Hopper & Rig Saver weights, Mojo's Long Shot rig and the EZKnot http://www.ezknot.com |
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Drop Shot rubber band (formerly SW spinnerbaits - What did RLDo Wrong?)
I am an active member on 5 other fishing news groups, not one of the other five have attacked me for making this offer, they instead sent me a private email, asking for my address to send their SASE to. I have seen several of these other posts, and none that I saw had any POSTED responses, of course I don't know about private email. You probably wouldn't have been "attacked" here had you done the same thing here, but no, you had your "alter ego" buddy Brab B. start in with responses, and then he became several others. For someone who says we are all jealous, you sure go a long way to make it look like you get good responses to your posts. |
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SW spinnerbaits - What did RL Do Wrong?
JEEEEZZ Bill, you called me a "clueless" "low life" for saying the same
thing, about ol' Rodney, a year ago on Jan 20th! What happened????? -- Stony "Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... I would not use it just because you have been such an asshole promoting it. |
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