Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as
animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

The full HORRIFIC video can be seen here. Please use ADULT CAUTION in
the presence of children.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.peta2.com/takecharge/swf/fur_farm.swf


-----------------------------------------------------------
Full report by
Dennis Chong


Animal rights groups have called for an embargo on fur produced on the
mainland in light of an investigation that exposed the daily
operations of Chinese fur farms - with video footage showing animals
skinned alive.

Shocked local and international activists say the findings provide new
evidence that people of conscience should not wear fur, and that the
legitimacy of the fur trade in Hong Kong - one of the mainland's major
partners re-exporting 80 percent of its fur - should be reviewed.

The calls came after the 2005 Hong Kong International Fur and Fashion
Fair ended on Monday, which local fur dealers heralded as evidence of
strong growth in demand for Hong Kong fur products.

A total of 172 exhibitors, including 72 from 13 countries,
participated in the four-day event.

But the video footage - which shows batteries of animals trapped in
cage rows and a raccoon dog, hung on its hind legs, being skinned - is
fast gaining attention with digitalized video clips being circulated
rapidly over the Internet.

The investigation's findings re-freshed the decade-long battle between
activists and the multibillion-dollar business, with local dealers
rebuffing the probe as over-generalizing the situation and one that
``will not help to improve animal welfare.''

Swiss Animal Protection, Britain's Care for the Wild and East
International jointly conducted a probe into the mainland fur farming
business last year and recently released a 15-page report.

The investigation, for which undercover activists visited several
farms in the northeastern Hebei province, holding from 50 to 6,000
animals, found ``animals were universally handled roughly and confined
to rows of inappropriate, small wire cages.''

``Animals are stunned with repeated blows to the head or swung against
the ground,'' the report says.

``Starting from the hind legs, workers then wrench the animals' skin
from their suspended bodies, until it comes off over the head ... a
significant number of animals remain fully conscious during this
process.''

Calling the findings ``horrendous,'' the three groups called on the
mainland to immediately outlaw inhumane slaughtering methods and the
European Parliament to ban the import of products made of mainland
fur.

The report also states Hong Kong is the biggest exporter of mainland
fur, taking 80 percent of the trade.

``I am at a loss to explain what goes through the mind of those people
who do not care if they have killed an animal or just rendered it
unconscious. How can you justify skinning an animal while it is still
conscious?'' asked Mark Rissi, a Swiss Animal Protection campaigner
and an author of the report.


He said the findings have spurred outrage in Switzerland with three
department store chains stopping the sale of textiles with fur
trimmings originating from China.

Cynthia Su, director of London-based East International, declined to
say how the investigators entered the farms, only saying it was made
possible through ``international efforts'' and that the videos were
shot inside the farms.

Hong Kong Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' deputy
director, Fiona Woodhouse, said ``a large amount of the world's fur
productions have effectively relocated to China where cheap labor and
lack of regulations have allowed production to become more
cost-effective.''


About 85 percent of the world's fur items originate from farms. While
Scandinavian and Eastern European farms have taken the brunt of
accusations, the burgeoning mainland sector is receiving growing
attention as it starts to dominate the world's market.

``Sensationalized campaigns are not the solution,'' the Hong Kong Fur
Federation said in response to the report.

While a growing number of mainland fur farmers are introducing
``Western standards,'' it said, the report's conclusion provides a
``sweeping generalization'' about the situation in China.

The federation also refutes the claim that the majority of fur
produced in Chinese farms is exported overseas, saying the vast
majority of exported fur products are made of European or North
American skins, and that items produced locally are for domestic use.

It says the key to improving animal welfare is to allow access of
local fur products to the international market and improve the
livelihood of fur farmers.

Despite several approaches by The Standard, the federation refused to
elaborate on its statement and clarify Hong Kong's role in handling
mainland fur - given pelts undergo a number of processes, often in
various countries, before reaching consumers.


According to mainland Customs, which was quoted in the report, the net
volume of fur imports and exports in China hit US$997.6 million
(HK$7.8 billion) in 2003, up 42.5 percent from the previous year.

While more than 95 percent of the fur clothing is sold overseas, 80
percent of the trade is handled by the SAR, the report says. Hong Kong
exports in the sector hit HK$3 billion last year, a growth of 31
percent from 2003.


http://www.careforthewild.com/files/..._paginated.pdf

Swiss Animal Protection SAP
http://www.animal-protection.net/fur..._fur_china.pdf

Photographs
See some of more then 500 photos from inside China´s fur farms.
http://www.animal-protection.net/

HSUS
http://tinyurl.com/8xc58

Fir is dead.
http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/

"Colin" wrote in message
...
Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as
animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

Thanks for posting in the UK rec humour group that was hiliarious more more
please ;-)

On Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:35:23 GMT, "FishFinders"
wrote:


"Colin" wrote in message
.. .
Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as
animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

Thanks for posting in the UK rec humour group that was hiliarious more more
please ;-)

Yeah, almost as good as the baby seal going clubbing.

Tiddy Ogg.
http://www.tiddyogg.co.uk

Colin wrote:
Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as
animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

The full HORRIFIC video can be seen here. Please use ADULT CAUTION in
the presence of children.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.peta2.com/takecharge/swf/fur_farm.swf


-----------------------------------------------------------
Full report by
Dennis Chong


Animal rights groups have called for an embargo on fur produced on the
mainland in light of an investigation that exposed the daily
operations of Chinese fur farms - with video footage showing animals
skinned alive.

Shocked local and international activists say the findings provide new
evidence that people of conscience should not wear fur, and that the
legitimacy of the fur trade in Hong Kong - one of the mainland's major
partners re-exporting 80 percent of its fur - should be reviewed.

The calls came after the 2005 Hong Kong International Fur and Fashion
Fair ended on Monday, which local fur dealers heralded as evidence of
strong growth in demand for Hong Kong fur products.

A total of 172 exhibitors, including 72 from 13 countries,
participated in the four-day event.

But the video footage - which shows batteries of animals trapped in
cage rows and a raccoon dog, hung on its hind legs, being skinned - is
fast gaining attention with digitalized video clips being circulated
rapidly over the Internet.

The investigation's findings re-freshed the decade-long battle between
activists and the multibillion-dollar business, with local dealers
rebuffing the probe as over-generalizing the situation and one that
``will not help to improve animal welfare.''

Swiss Animal Protection, Britain's Care for the Wild and East
International jointly conducted a probe into the mainland fur farming
business last year and recently released a 15-page report.

The investigation, for which undercover activists visited several
farms in the northeastern Hebei province, holding from 50 to 6,000
animals, found ``animals were universally handled roughly and confined
to rows of inappropriate, small wire cages.''

``Animals are stunned with repeated blows to the head or swung against
the ground,'' the report says.

``Starting from the hind legs, workers then wrench the animals' skin
from their suspended bodies, until it comes off over the head ... a
significant number of animals remain fully conscious during this
process.''

Calling the findings ``horrendous,'' the three groups called on the
mainland to immediately outlaw inhumane slaughtering methods and the
European Parliament to ban the import of products made of mainland
fur.

The report also states Hong Kong is the biggest exporter of mainland
fur, taking 80 percent of the trade.

``I am at a loss to explain what goes through the mind of those people
who do not care if they have killed an animal or just rendered it
unconscious. How can you justify skinning an animal while it is still
conscious?'' asked Mark Rissi, a Swiss Animal Protection campaigner
and an author of the report.


He said the findings have spurred outrage in Switzerland with three
department store chains stopping the sale of textiles with fur
trimmings originating from China.

Cynthia Su, director of London-based East International, declined to
say how the investigators entered the farms, only saying it was made
possible through ``international efforts'' and that the videos were
shot inside the farms.

Hong Kong Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' deputy
director, Fiona Woodhouse, said ``a large amount of the world's fur
productions have effectively relocated to China where cheap labor and
lack of regulations have allowed production to become more
cost-effective.''


About 85 percent of the world's fur items originate from farms. While
Scandinavian and Eastern European farms have taken the brunt of
accusations, the burgeoning mainland sector is receiving growing
attention as it starts to dominate the world's market.

``Sensationalized campaigns are not the solution,'' the Hong Kong Fur
Federation said in response to the report.

While a growing number of mainland fur farmers are introducing
``Western standards,'' it said, the report's conclusion provides a
``sweeping generalization'' about the situation in China.

The federation also refutes the claim that the majority of fur
produced in Chinese farms is exported overseas, saying the vast
majority of exported fur products are made of European or North
American skins, and that items produced locally are for domestic use.

It says the key to improving animal welfare is to allow access of
local fur products to the international market and improve the
livelihood of fur farmers.

Despite several approaches by The Standard, the federation refused to
elaborate on its statement and clarify Hong Kong's role in handling
mainland fur - given pelts undergo a number of processes, often in
various countries, before reaching consumers.


According to mainland Customs, which was quoted in the report, the net
volume of fur imports and exports in China hit US$997.6 million
(HK$7.8 billion) in 2003, up 42.5 percent from the previous year.

While more than 95 percent of the fur clothing is sold overseas, 80
percent of the trade is handled by the SAR, the report says. Hong Kong
exports in the sector hit HK$3 billion last year, a growth of 31
percent from 2003.


http://www.careforthewild.com/files/..._paginated.pdf

Swiss Animal Protection SAP
http://www.animal-protection.net/fur..._fur_china.pdf

Photographs
See some of more then 500 photos from inside China´s fur farms.
http://www.animal-protection.net/

HSUS
http://tinyurl.com/8xc58

Fir is dead.
http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/


THIS DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS DISCUSSION GROUP CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE
IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO PREACH YOUR BELIEVING TO US - WE CAN FORM OUR
OWN OPINIONS WITHOUT HAVING IT SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

On 22 Aug 2006 03:29:14 -0700, "PeteL" wrote:


Colin wrote:
Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as
animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

The full HORRIFIC video can be seen here. Please use ADULT CAUTION in
the presence of children.

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

http://www.peta2.com/takecharge/swf/fur_farm.swf


-----------------------------------------------------------
Full report by
Dennis Chong


Animal rights groups have called for an embargo on fur produced on the
mainland in light of an investigation that exposed the daily
operations of Chinese fur farms - with video footage showing animals
skinned alive.

Shocked local and international activists say the findings provide new
evidence that people of conscience should not wear fur, and that the
legitimacy of the fur trade in Hong Kong - one of the mainland's major
partners re-exporting 80 percent of its fur - should be reviewed.

The calls came after the 2005 Hong Kong International Fur and Fashion
Fair ended on Monday, which local fur dealers heralded as evidence of
strong growth in demand for Hong Kong fur products.

A total of 172 exhibitors, including 72 from 13 countries,
participated in the four-day event.

But the video footage - which shows batteries of animals trapped in
cage rows and a raccoon dog, hung on its hind legs, being skinned - is
fast gaining attention with digitalized video clips being circulated
rapidly over the Internet.

The investigation's findings re-freshed the decade-long battle between
activists and the multibillion-dollar business, with local dealers
rebuffing the probe as over-generalizing the situation and one that
``will not help to improve animal welfare.''

Swiss Animal Protection, Britain's Care for the Wild and East
International jointly conducted a probe into the mainland fur farming
business last year and recently released a 15-page report.

The investigation, for which undercover activists visited several
farms in the northeastern Hebei province, holding from 50 to 6,000
animals, found ``animals were universally handled roughly and confined
to rows of inappropriate, small wire cages.''

``Animals are stunned with repeated blows to the head or swung against
the ground,'' the report says.

``Starting from the hind legs, workers then wrench the animals' skin
from their suspended bodies, until it comes off over the head ... a
significant number of animals remain fully conscious during this
process.''

Calling the findings ``horrendous,'' the three groups called on the
mainland to immediately outlaw inhumane slaughtering methods and the
European Parliament to ban the import of products made of mainland
fur.

The report also states Hong Kong is the biggest exporter of mainland
fur, taking 80 percent of the trade.

``I am at a loss to explain what goes through the mind of those people
who do not care if they have killed an animal or just rendered it
unconscious. How can you justify skinning an animal while it is still
conscious?'' asked Mark Rissi, a Swiss Animal Protection campaigner
and an author of the report.


He said the findings have spurred outrage in Switzerland with three
department store chains stopping the sale of textiles with fur
trimmings originating from China.

Cynthia Su, director of London-based East International, declined to
say how the investigators entered the farms, only saying it was made
possible through ``international efforts'' and that the videos were
shot inside the farms.

Hong Kong Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' deputy
director, Fiona Woodhouse, said ``a large amount of the world's fur
productions have effectively relocated to China where cheap labor and
lack of regulations have allowed production to become more
cost-effective.''


About 85 percent of the world's fur items originate from farms. While
Scandinavian and Eastern European farms have taken the brunt of
accusations, the burgeoning mainland sector is receiving growing
attention as it starts to dominate the world's market.

``Sensationalized campaigns are not the solution,'' the Hong Kong Fur
Federation said in response to the report.

While a growing number of mainland fur farmers are introducing
``Western standards,'' it said, the report's conclusion provides a
``sweeping generalization'' about the situation in China.

The federation also refutes the claim that the majority of fur
produced in Chinese farms is exported overseas, saying the vast
majority of exported fur products are made of European or North
American skins, and that items produced locally are for domestic use.

It says the key to improving animal welfare is to allow access of
local fur products to the international market and improve the
livelihood of fur farmers.

Despite several approaches by The Standard, the federation refused to
elaborate on its statement and clarify Hong Kong's role in handling
mainland fur - given pelts undergo a number of processes, often in
various countries, before reaching consumers.


According to mainland Customs, which was quoted in the report, the net
volume of fur imports and exports in China hit US$997.6 million
(HK$7.8 billion) in 2003, up 42.5 percent from the previous year.

While more than 95 percent of the fur clothing is sold overseas, 80
percent of the trade is handled by the SAR, the report says. Hong Kong
exports in the sector hit HK$3 billion last year, a growth of 31
percent from 2003.


http://www.careforthewild.com/files/..._paginated.pdf

Swiss Animal Protection SAP
http://www.animal-protection.net/fur..._fur_china.pdf

Photographs
See some of more then 500 photos from inside China´s fur farms.
http://www.animal-protection.net/

HSUS
http://tinyurl.com/8xc58

Fir is dead.
http://www.furisdead.com/feat/ChineseFurFarms/


THIS DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS DISCUSSION GROUP CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE
IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO PREACH YOUR BELIEVING TO US - WE CAN FORM OUR
OWN OPINIONS WITHOUT HAVING IT SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have something, firm, but gentle, I'd like to shove down your
throat. Are you game? xx

PeteL wrote:

THIS DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS DISCUSSION GROUP CAN SOMEONE PLEASE REMOVE
IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO PREACH YOUR BELIEVING TO US - WE CAN FORM OUR
OWN OPINIONS WITHOUT HAVING IT SHOVED DOWN OUR THROATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Surely you would want to base your opinion on knowledge rather than
ignorance.

For a start Fishfinder....I wasn't going to watch the video as I've seen
similar and am against animals being used for fur only and i find such
images too upsetting...then your stupid immature and frankly (after seeing
the start of the clip) offensive comment made me think it was a joke,
seconded by the just as insensitive Tiddy.

This type of thing needs to be publicised, and I would have hoped that
animal forum would find it appropriate, in that most people on there would
be caring responsible human beings who would be appalled and maybe be able
to help stop it, we all can in small ways.

all I can say is I hope you all come back as racoons in your next life!

Matzi

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:06:04 +0100, "Matzi"
wrote:

For a start Fishfinder....I wasn't going to watch the video as I've seen
similar and am against animals being used for fur only and i find such
images too upsetting...then your stupid immature and frankly (after seeing
the start of the clip) offensive comment made me think it was a joke,
seconded by the just as insensitive Tiddy.

This type of thing needs to be publicised, and I would have hoped that
animal forum would find it appropriate, in that most people on there would
be caring responsible human beings who would be appalled and maybe be able
to help stop it, we all can in small ways.

all I can say is I hope you all come back as racoons in your next life!

Matzi
But, as Fishfinger pointed out, this thing was cross-posted to
uk.rec.humour. It's the dumb spamming crossposter who flooded usenet
with this who you should be complaining about.

Tiddy Ogg.
http://www.tiddyogg.co.uk

Mon, 21 Aug 2006 20:35:23
uk.rec.humour
FishFinders


"Colin" wrote in message
.. .
Proof as animals are skinned alive. SHOCK - Calls for China fur ban as
animal cruelty exposed . - GRAPHIC WARNING!! HELP.

Thanks for posting in the UK rec humour group that was hiliarious more more
please ;-)

For urh, uk.rec.equestrain and uk.rec.gps

Heather Mills-McCartney decide to attempt yet another level of social
strata management and seduced a wealthy Argentinean land owner with a
side line in illicit substances in nearby countries. You don't get to
be *that* rich just my making popular tunes, after all. He had a good
line in cattle ranching to keep her occupied at home arguning with her
husband until some months into the marriage the new husband insisted
Heather play in an invitational polo match.

"It is just ladies, nothing can go wrong" said the rather tired and by
now bored land owner.

Of course the new husband owned the opposition polo team as well and
knew one of the ladies could quite easily replace the meddlesome
Heather.

During the course of the second hand a kick from a horse sent Heather's
faux leg flying into the bushes.

It was quickly recovered and placed on a plane back to Essex, UK.

When Heather realised she wasn't going to get her leg back soon she
asked her next husband what she should do.

"Just follow the GPS signal in your faux leg, you should find your way
home"
--
Wm ...
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Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:25:21
uk.rec.humour ©¿©

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 09:18:08 +0100, Tiddy Ogg
wrote:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 07:06:04 +0100, "Matzi"
wrote:

For a start Fishfinder....I wasn't going to watch the video as I've seen
similar and am against animals being used for fur only and i find such
images too upsetting...then your stupid immature and frankly (after seeing
the start of the clip) offensive comment made me think it was a joke,
seconded by the just as insensitive Tiddy.

This type of thing needs to be publicised, and I would have hoped that
animal forum would find it appropriate, in that most people on there would
be caring responsible human beings who would be appalled and maybe be able
to help stop it, we all can in small ways.

all I can say is I hope you all come back as racoons in your next life!

Matzi

But, as Fishfinger pointed out, this thing was cross-posted to
uk.rec.humour. It's the dumb spamming crossposter who flooded usenet
with this who you should be complaining about.

Get lost udder breath.

Have you ever actually been near an udder, as in a cow's udder? It is a
rather warm and wonderful smell. Perhaps you weren't breast fed?


The breath of an udder (a.k.a breast in humans) from a child recently
fed is a wonderful thing to me.

Perhaps you just can't manage the poo bit that results?

--
Wm ...
Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days from date of posting