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Old August 19th, 2006, 10:05 AM
lamondi lamondi is offline
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Hi, i have been sea fishing for just over a year now, last year all i did was cast feathers of the promenade at Colwyn Bay with good results, mainly Mackerel & lots of them. This year i have upgraded tackle, rod & reel etc... & am trying for Bass using Crab. However my son took a trip to the tackle shop & came back with 10 LIVE crabs, WHAT do i do with them, use them live or not & how / where to hook them. Any advice would help.
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Old August 19th, 2006, 03:48 PM posted to uk.rec.fishing.sea
Derek Moody
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In article , lamondi
wrote:

Hi, i have been sea fishing for just over a year now, last year all i
did was cast feathers of the promenade at Colwyn Bay with good results,
mainly Mackerel & lots of them. This year i have upgraded tackle, rod &
reel etc... & am trying for Bass using Crab. However my son took a trip
to the tackle shop & came back with 10 LIVE crabs, WHAT do i do with
them, use them live or not & how / where to hook them. Any advice would
help.


You know they are fresh, dead crabs quickly become useless. Keep them in
the fridge as otherwise they'll finish peeling and revert to hardbacks.

Traditionally you peel all the shell from them - they are 'peeler' crabs
because they are in the process of shedding their shells, and then tie the
soft flesh to the hook using fine elastic.

Don't bother.

Take just the back shell off. Stab the crab between the eyes with your
hookpoint to kill it and prevent it suffering and then put the whole crab,
including the shell, on the hook by pushing the hook through the shell
leaving the point clear of the back. If the crab is too big for this cut it
in two and fish just one half by hooking it through two leg sockets.

Do not use these baits in bright daylight as wrasse will grab them. Do not
cast them into deep water as you'll waste them on dogfish. At dawn and dusk
fish them close alongside weedy rocks in two or three metres of water. Use
as little lead as possible. Use light line, a sharp, fine wire, wide gape
#4/0 hook and cast no more then 30 metres. Bass expect to find peelers
where there are hiding places and they are used to eating them shell, spiky
bits and all. When you feel a bite count one, two, and strike.

Cheerio,

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Old August 20th, 2006, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Derek Moody
In article , lamondi
wrote:

Hi, i have been sea fishing for just over a year now, last year all i
did was cast feathers of the promenade at Colwyn Bay with good results,
mainly Mackerel & lots of them. This year i have upgraded tackle, rod &
reel etc... & am trying for Bass using Crab. However my son took a trip
to the tackle shop & came back with 10 LIVE crabs, WHAT do i do with
them, use them live or not & how / where to hook them. Any advice would
help.


You know they are fresh, dead crabs quickly become useless. Keep them in
the fridge as otherwise they'll finish peeling and revert to hardbacks.

Traditionally you peel all the shell from them - they are 'peeler' crabs
because they are in the process of shedding their shells, and then tie the
soft flesh to the hook using fine elastic.

Don't bother.

Take just the back shell off. Stab the crab between the eyes with your
hookpoint to kill it and prevent it suffering and then put the whole crab,
including the shell, on the hook by pushing the hook through the shell
leaving the point clear of the back. If the crab is too big for this cut it
in two and fish just one half by hooking it through two leg sockets.

Do not use these baits in bright daylight as wrasse will grab them. Do not
cast them into deep water as you'll waste them on dogfish. At dawn and dusk
fish them close alongside weedy rocks in two or three metres of water. Use
as little lead as possible. Use light line, a sharp, fine wire, wide gape
#4/0 hook and cast no more then 30 metres. Bass expect to find peelers
where there are hiding places and they are used to eating them shell, spiky
bits and all. When you feel a bite count one, two, and strike.

Cheerio,

--
Fishing:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/

Fantastic, Thanks for answering my question so well. This morning i went out Fishing from Colwyn Bay & i bought a pack of those plastic / rubber crabs that are meant to give off 400 percent more smell & in 3 hours all i caught was.... you guessed it a bigger CRAB with massive red eyes, evil looking thing. Next time i go i will heed your advice well. Thanks again
Ian
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Old September 3rd, 2006, 06:25 PM posted to uk.rec.fishing.sea
Derek
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"lamondi" wrote in message
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Derek Moody Wrote:
In article , lamondi
wrote:-

Hi, i have been sea fishing for just over a year now, last year all i
did was cast feathers of the promenade at Colwyn Bay with good
results,
mainly Mackerel & lots of them. This year i have upgraded tackle, rod
&
reel etc... & am trying for Bass using Crab. However my son took a
trip
to the tackle shop & came back with 10 LIVE crabs, WHAT do i do with
them, use them live or not & how / where to hook them. Any advice
would
help.-

You know they are fresh, dead crabs quickly become useless. Keep them
in
the fridge as otherwise they'll finish peeling and revert to
hardbacks.

Traditionally you peel all the shell from them - they are 'peeler'
crabs
because they are in the process of shedding their shells, and then tie
the
soft flesh to the hook using fine elastic.

Don't bother.

Take just the back shell off. Stab the crab between the eyes with
your
hookpoint to kill it and prevent it suffering and then put the whole
crab,
including the shell, on the hook by pushing the hook through the shell
leaving the point clear of the back. If the crab is too big for this
cut it
in two and fish just one half by hooking it through two leg sockets.

Do not use these baits in bright daylight as wrasse will grab them. Do
not
cast them into deep water as you'll waste them on dogfish. At dawn and
dusk
fish them close alongside weedy rocks in two or three metres of water.
Use
as little lead as possible. Use light line, a sharp, fine wire, wide
gape
#4/0 hook and cast no more then 30 metres. Bass expect to find
peelers
where there are hiding places and they are used to eating them shell,
spiky
bits and all. When you feel a bite count one, two, and strike.

Cheerio,

--
Fishing:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/
Writing: http://www.author.casterbridge.net/derek-moody/
uk.rec.fishing.game Badge Page:
http://www.fishing.casterbridge.net/urfg/



Fantastic, Thanks for answering my question so well. This morning i
went out Fishing from Colwyn Bay & i bought a pack of those plastic /
rubber crabs that are meant to give off 400 percent more smell & in 3
hours all i caught was.... you guessed it a bigger CRAB with massive
red eyes, evil looking thing. Next time i go i will heed your advice
well. Thanks again
Ian




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lamondi


Have a trip out with Paul on Pathfinder down the bottom end of Colwyn Rhos
Point
it cheers me up after struggling on the beach theres plenty of fish out
there at the moment .
You are doing better than we did with rubber crabs nothing seemed to fancy
them at all.
squid mackie cocktail was a better bet
Derek


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Old September 4th, 2006, 06:24 PM posted to uk.rec.fishing.sea
Derek Moody
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In article , Derek
wrote:

"lamondi" wrote in message
...


went out Fishing from Colwyn Bay & i bought a pack of those plastic /
rubber crabs that are meant to give off 400 percent more smell & in 3
hours all i caught was.... you guessed it a bigger CRAB with massive


IF they give off 400% more smell then they will only do so for a little
while. (Does your chewing gum lose its flavour on the bedpost overnight?)

Fresh peelers are good for about half an hour so for 400% more smell use 4
on the hook ;-)

Did the packet say whether the plastic crab would be good for four times as
long (2 hours) - or will it be four times as good for half an hour?

My guess is they're only good for the two minutes it takes to flog them to
an unsuspecting bait buyer.

You are doing better than we did with rubber crabs nothing seemed to fancy
them at all.
squid mackie cocktail was a better bet


It takes a lot to beat very fresh mackerel - very fresh peelers are one of
the few baits that can.

Cheerio,

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