Catch and Release Hurts our Quality of Life

On Mar 8, 6:11 pm, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
You are obviously not interested in an honest discussion.
Which is fine, your jihad is not an honest one so there
is really no point in your making an inevitably futile
attempt to discuss it.

Ken,

You said you only cared about posting full sentences, not the full
quote.

Specifically you said:: I'm going to have to insist that you quote
full sentences only

So I did,

This is a full sentence:

"A few dead fish do not matter one whit to me,
I look at the bigger fishery management picture."

You posted a sentence fragment, twice, which was
a dishonest distortion of my post and then you
expounded on your dishonest distortion to accuse
me of being a man with no conscience who had a
wanton disregard for killing wildlife. Not only
is that dishonest it's despicable.

--
Ken Fortenberry

--
Ken Fortenberry

Dadgummit Ken, you said (and I paraphrase) that a few dead fish did
not matter a whit to you so long as you're having fun and you'll feed
the damned racoons with the waste.

Is this NOT what you meant?

*Wild!

I think this subject troubles you too.

TBone
* Dictionary.com #13: amazing or incredible: Isn't that wild about
Bill getting booted out of the club?

Halfordian Golfer wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
This is a full sentence:

"A few dead fish do not matter one whit to me,
I look at the bigger fishery management picture."

You posted a sentence fragment, twice, which was
a dishonest distortion of my post and then you
expounded on your dishonest distortion to accuse
me of being a man with no conscience who had a
wanton disregard for killing wildlife. Not only
is that dishonest it's despicable.

Dadgummit Ken, you said (and I paraphrase) that a few dead fish did
not matter a whit to you so long as you're having fun and you'll feed
the damned racoons with the waste.

You're a funny guy, a dishonest, despicable liar, but funny
nonetheless.

Your silly jihad has been laughed off of roff and I think it's
high time the same thing happened here. You can't even argue
whatever points you think you have in an honest fashion. That
should tell you something about the emptiness of your argument,
not to mention the deficiency of your character.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Mar 9, 9:51 am, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
This is a full sentence:

"A few dead fish do not matter one whit to me,
I look at the bigger fishery management picture."

You posted a sentence fragment, twice, which was
a dishonest distortion of my post and then you
expounded on your dishonest distortion to accuse
me of being a man with no conscience who had a
wanton disregard for killing wildlife. Not only
is that dishonest it's despicable.

Dadgummit Ken, you said (and I paraphrase) that a few dead fish did
not matter a whit to you so long as you're having fun and you'll feed
the damned racoons with the waste.

You're a funny guy, a dishonest, despicable liar, but funny
nonetheless.

Your silly jihad has been laughed off of roff and I think it's
high time the same thing happened here. You can't even argue
whatever points you think you have in an honest fashion. That
should tell you something about the emptiness of your argument,
not to mention the deficiency of your character.

--
Ken Fortenberry

Hi Ken,

So what you said, and I paraphrase, a few dead fish did not matter a
whit to you so long as you're having fun and you'll feed the damned
racoons with the waste, because you see the bigger picture?

Does this satisfy an acceptable interpretation of what you said?

The fact is, there's not a lot of possibility of being out of context
taking snippets of your phrase anyway. What you believe and why you
believe it are two separate things.

Your pal,

TBone

Halfordian Golfer wrote:

So what you said, and I paraphrase, ...

I'm done with you and your silly anti-C&R jihad. Now that
I have demonstrated to my satisfaction that you really have
no coherent argument, merely ad hominems and double talk, I
can dismiss you, as most folks have already, as a crackpot.

It's sad really, there was a time when you were able to have
a civil conversation. What happened to you ?

--
Ken Fortenberry

Ken Fortenberry wrote:
Halfordian Golfer wrote:

So what you said, and I paraphrase, ...

I'm done with you and your silly anti-C&R jihad. Now that
I have demonstrated to my satisfaction that you really have
no coherent argument, merely ad hominems and double talk,



Bull****.

One can disagree with Tim's position but you're wrong in stating that he
doesn't have a coherent argument, merely ad hominens and double talk.

His argument is VERY coherent and simple - it is wrong to stress,
injure, kill etc, a fish simply for one's pleasure.

Willi

Willi wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I'm done with you and your silly anti-C&R jihad. Now that
I have demonstrated to my satisfaction that you really have
no coherent argument, merely ad hominems and double talk,

Bull****.

One can disagree with Tim's position but you're wrong in stating that he
doesn't have a coherent argument, merely ad hominens and double talk.

There is nothing but hypocrisy and double talk in his
so-called "position". C&R is a fishery management tool,
not the only one, but a valid one for some fisheries.
C&R is not the end of the world as we know it or a slippery
slope towards fish as golf balls. It's just one tool among
several to achieve what all of us should want, namely healthy
fisheries.

His argument is VERY coherent and simple - it is wrong to stress,
injure, kill etc, a fish simply for one's pleasure.

If that's his argument then he is a hypocrite for going
fishing at all and I'll be goddamned if I'm going to let
some crackpot trot out the holier-than-thou ad hominems
against fishermen on a fly fishing newsgroup.

--
Ken Fortenberry

"Halfordian Golfer" wrote in message
...

There was no attack just a qualified statement of truth. He agrees
with this now and has recanted.

I didn't recant anything. I said playing and catching a fish will stress it,
I did not agree with your C&R definition.
Don't put words in my mouth.


To wit: "Sure it stresses fish to catch and play a trout".

Ken - what sucked about JT's answer is that - I answered his question
straight up, like a gentleman - and he answered mine with pure crap,
you know it, and, well...that wasn't the deal.

Just because I disagree with your definition and belief about C&R it's crap.
OK....

Socratic? Yeah right!

JT

JT wrote:
...
Just because I disagree with your definition and belief about C&R it's crap.
OK....

Socratic? Yeah right!

LOL ! Yeah, Tim's empty and incoherent double talk is better
described as sophistic.

--
Ken Fortenberry

On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 08:58:08 -0500, Ken Fortenberry
wrote:

I'll be goddamned if I'm going to let
some crackpot trot out the holier-than-thou ad hominems

Irony doesn't get any better than this.
--
Charlie...
http://www.chocphoto.com

Charlie Choc wrote:
Ken Fortenberry wrote:
I'll be goddamned if I'm going to let
some crackpot trot out the holier-than-thou ad hominems

Irony doesn't get any better than this.

LOL ! Quoting sentence fragments to distort and then
posting snarky comments on the distortion is a play
right out of Tim's playbook.

And

**** you, Choc.

--
Ken Fortenberry