What is this knot called?
 

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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It looks to me the hook should be on the right side of the loop (knot)
instead of on the left?, as I was looking at the diagram.

Given that the bend is uninvolved in the knot, it wouldn't make any
difference. Imagine this lying flat on a table. Placing the point of a
pencil anywhere inside the snarl of loops and pushing it away from you
would make the whole mess slide off of the running line between the hook
and the bend at the right. In other words, you could indeed place the
hook on the right, but it would be easy to do that as things stand in the
picture by simply sliding it over.....nothing would be disturbed in the
process. The knot (if knot it actually is.....I haven't looked closely
enough to be sure) is the mass of coils in the center, between the hook
and the bend. The bend itself CANNOT be a part of the knot as it is
pictured.

Wolfgang

Yes Wolfgang, you're right as I further read the description...makes no
difference of the hook or no hook.
-tom

What is this knot called?
 

"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
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I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon
fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on
the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel


No idea what this is. However, it looks mighty peculiar. According to
the illustration, the line passes through the eye of the hook from left
to right and then makes a sweeping bend back to the left. The rest of
the gyrations cause the working end to cross the original running line a
total of five times, but ALL of these crosses occur above the running
line.....NONE of them below. The net result of this is that the original
bend is not involved in the knot in any way. The knot.....whatever it
may be called and whatever use it may allegedly serve.....appears to be
nothing more than a large and needlessly complicated stopper.

Like Jeff Taylor posted, it's a double turle, but it's very poorly
illustrated. Jeff posted a better link, and here's another.

http://www.pechetruite.com/Noeuds/hook6.htm

It's not a "stopper." The knot forms a loop (two loops, actually) that
secures to the shank of the hook just behind the eye.

Hm......

Well, I suppose that someone COULD put that mess through a series of
gyrations that just might conceivably end up in something resembling a turle
knot......in the same sense that someone might assemble a pile of loose car
parts into something that might conceivably resemble a Ferrari.....but a
pile of loose car parts isn't a Ferrari (actually, it's a Corvair.....if
memory serves) and that isn't a turle knot. What it is, in fact, is a
needlessly complex stopper lying on the running line and cleverly disguised
to look like a stopper lying on the running line.

Um......maybe it would help if you looked long and closely at Tim's
masterful illustration of the original?

Meanwhile......

You really just CANNOT help doing this......can you? :)

Wolfgang
who feels that a reminder of the distinction between what the boy CANNOT do
and what he WILL NOT do would be superfluous in light of the above.

What is this knot called?
 

Wolfgang wrote:

Meanwhile......

Whatever.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

What is this knot called?
 

"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

Meanwhile......

Whatever.

Whatever?

Hm......o.k.

What's ambient atmospheric pressure at a thousand (not 6,000) fathoms?

What was it like to meet Tim?

Wolfgang
who is beginning to think that the boy just WILL NOT learn. :)

What is this knot called?
 

Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

Meanwhile......

Whatever.


Whatever?

Double turle. Whatever.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

What is this knot called?
 

Tim J. wrote:
No idea what this is. However, it looks mighty peculiar. . .

That's because *I* developed it years ago:
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/pics/knot.jpg

Don't buy into Timmy's lie - he's proselytizing for the Church of the Flying
Spaghetti Monster again. Check this out and compare it to Tommy's drawing.
I swear he's been touched by His Noodly Appendage.
http://www.venganza.org/him2.jpg
--
Stan Gula
http://gula.org/roffswaps

What is this knot called?
 

Stan Gula wrote:
Tim J. wrote:
No idea what this is. However, it looks mighty peculiar. . .

That's because *I* developed it years ago:
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/pics/knot.jpg

Don't buy into Timmy's lie - he's proselytizing for the Church of the
Flying Spaghetti Monster again. Check this out and compare it to
Tommy's drawing. I swear he's been touched by His Noodly Appendage.
http://www.venganza.org/him2.jpg

Add a couple of meatballs, and I'm there!
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

What is this knot called?
 

"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

Meanwhile......

Whatever.


Whatever?

Double turle. Whatever.

Whatever?

Hm.....

O.k.

Would you say that EVERY teenage girl is someone's daughter?

What's sacred?

Wolfgang
everybody who thinks the boy is capable of learning......here's your chance
to stand up and be heard. :)

What is this knot called?
 

Wolfgang wrote:
"rw" wrote in message
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Wolfgang wrote:

"rw" wrote in message
. com...


Wolfgang wrote:


Meanwhile......

Whatever.


Whatever?

Double turle. Whatever.


Whatever?

Double turle. Sama sama.

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Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

What is this knot called?
 

"Mark W. Oots" mark_ctc@(no spam)ameritech.net wrote in message
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"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
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I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon
fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on
the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel

I call it "way more complicated than it needs to be".

Mark


Okay, maye I've been away for a while...who are you oots?

john