What is this knot called?

I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel

Lionel F. Stevenson wrote:

I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html

Looks like a Gordian knot to me.


Chuck Vance

"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
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I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon
fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on
the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel


I think you are referring to the turle knot...

http://www.flyfishingconnection.com/doubleturtle.html

JT

"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
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I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon
fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on
the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel

I call it "way more complicated than it needs to be".

Mark

"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
...
I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon
fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on
the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel

No idea what this is. However, it looks mighty peculiar. According to the
illustration, the line passes through the eye of the hook from left to right
and then makes a sweeping bend back to the left. The rest of the gyrations
cause the working end to cross the original running line a total of five
times, but ALL of these crosses occur above the running line.....NONE of
them below. The net result of this is that the original bend is not
involved in the knot in any way. The knot.....whatever it may be called and
whatever use it may allegedly serve.....appears to be nothing more than a
large and needlessly complicated stopper.

Wolfgang

"Wolfgang" wrote in message
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"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
...
I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon
fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on
the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel

No idea what this is. However, it looks mighty peculiar. According to
the illustration, the line passes through the eye of the hook from left to
right and then makes a sweeping bend back to the left. The rest of the
gyrations cause the working end to cross the original running line a total
of five times, but ALL of these crosses occur above the running
line.....NONE of them below. The net result of this is that the original
bend is not involved in the knot in any way. The knot.....whatever it may
be called and whatever use it may allegedly serve.....appears to be
nothing more than a large and needlessly complicated stopper.

Wolfgang


It looks to me the hook should be on the right side of the loop (knot)
instead of on the left?, as I was looking at the diagram.
-tom

Wolfgang typed:
"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
...
I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon
fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and
on the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel

No idea what this is. However, it looks mighty peculiar. . .

That's because *I* developed it years ago:
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/pics/knot.jpg
--
TL,
Tim
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http://css.sbcma.com/timj/

Wolfgang wrote:
"Lionel F. Stevenson" wrote in message
...

I haven't seen this knot anywhere. It was shown to me by a Salmon
fisherman.
It is tied so the knot is on the underside of a down turned eye, and on
the
top of an upturned eye.
http://www.cameraart.ca/knot.html
-- Lionel


No idea what this is. However, it looks mighty peculiar. According to the
illustration, the line passes through the eye of the hook from left to right
and then makes a sweeping bend back to the left. The rest of the gyrations
cause the working end to cross the original running line a total of five
times, but ALL of these crosses occur above the running line.....NONE of
them below. The net result of this is that the original bend is not
involved in the knot in any way. The knot.....whatever it may be called and
whatever use it may allegedly serve.....appears to be nothing more than a
large and needlessly complicated stopper.

Like Jeff Taylor posted, it's a double turle, but it's very poorly
illustrated. Jeff posted a better link, and here's another.

http://www.pechetruite.com/Noeuds/hook6.htm

It's not a "stopper." The knot forms a loop (two loops, actually) that
secures to the shank of the hook just behind the eye.

--
Cut "to the chase" for my email address.

"Tom Nakashima" wrote in message
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It looks to me the hook should be on the right side of the loop (knot)
instead of on the left?, as I was looking at the diagram.

Given that the bend is uninvolved in the knot, it wouldn't make any
difference. Imagine this lying flat on a table. Placing the point of a
pencil anywhere inside the snarl of loops and pushing it away from you would
make the whole mess slide off of the running line between the hook and the
bend at the right. In other words, you could indeed place the hook on the
right, but it would be easy to do that as things stand in the picture by
simply sliding it over.....nothing would be disturbed in the process. The
knot (if knot it actually is.....I haven't looked closely enough to be sure)
is the mass of coils in the center, between the hook and the bend. The bend
itself CANNOT be a part of the knot as it is pictured.

Wolfgang

"Tim J." wrote...

No idea what this is. However, it looks mighty peculiar. . .

That's because *I* developed it years ago:
http://css.sbcma.com/timj/pics/knot.jpg
--
TL,
Tim

LOL...

Looks like my initial attempts at nailknots, Albrights, etc., etc.

Luckily, I've found a few easy to tie knots that my not-so-nimble fingers
can manage.

Dan